The Trump Card...

coalminer

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Isn't... any.... good.
Wow

The only people dying from covid-19 are those who are not vaccinated. So you gotta admit, it's probably a little good.
For people who have no other issues, it is 99.99999% effective at preventing death from the virus, yes there will be people who will still get a few symptoms, but they can rest assured its not going to kill them.

Say what you want about being experimental but they do work as intended.
 
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Shotcallerj

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Isn't... any.... good.
Wow

The only people dying from covid-19 are those who are not vaccinated. So you gotta admit, it's probably a little good.
Yeah that's horribly incorrect. There have been many people die or catch covid after they get the vaccine. Let's not forget that the virus has a 99% survival rate so it seems like the vaccine isnt worth it if the survival rate is at that percent and there's still people dying who get it. Not to mention they kind of shoot themselves in the foot whenever they claim how great the vaccine is but then say you still have to mask up and social distance.


"CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 6,587 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died."

 
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Shotcallerj

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Getting the thread back to what it should be, supposably Democrats are going to get there long time life goal of getting his tax returns. You know.. not like we don't have actual issues in this country that they should be trying to fix instead of making worse.....

I find it so entertaining that Democrats are salvating at the idea of getting his tax returns.... When everyone knows if you don't pay what you're supposed to, the IRS bends you over with no lube and a reach around.

This is going to end up just like the Russia collusion witch Hunt, two impeachments (one for supposedly doing what Democrats choice for president actually did), New York, and every single little thing they tried to get him on. I honestly think that he's toying with Democrats. Making them jump through all those hoops to get them salivating at the idea of him having something to hide.... But at the end of the day it's going to come out a big nothing burger like everything else.

Then again this is nothing more than just an attack on Trump... It's not even news anymore.
 

RLENT

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So Democrats are or aren't trying to get people to conform to their way of thinking and agenda?

The problem you're having is your original mischaracterization of Ragman's statement.

His point (I think) was that it's within someone's right if they don't want to get vaccinated - they bear the responsibility for the consequences of that decision.

However that right does not convey additional rights ... to act in an irresponsible manner and contribute to furthering the COVID pandemic and needlessly endangering others ... particularly when it has the capacity to be an issue of life and death for some people ... just with the current variants alone ... to say nothing of potential future variants which may develop as a consequence of failure to act.

You contradicted yourself whenever you said Democrats are doing it but then made the excuse that it's a public health issue....

Nope - that claim indicates a misunderstanding of what I said and meant.

So which is it? Just for once I'd prefer if one of you would actually not bend which ever way the argument blows.

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Last time I checked you cannot be arrested unless you commit a crime.

You better have a good look around.

Not only can you be arrested without committing a crime, but you can be tried and (wrongfully) convicted.

But be that as it may, the fact is being asked to mask up - in compliance with the present House Rules - or leave the premises ... and then refusing to do either, is a violation of law (unlawful entry)

There is no law that has been passed by Congress and signed into law that states people have to wear masks in the house.

There doesn't need to be - the House has the power to set it's own rules.

Their House, their rules.

That is probably the most scariest thing that you're not even upset about that.

Really ?

:tearsofjoy:

You're literally trying to make excuses for tyrants abusing their power and authority to force people to conform with their agenda.

You misspelled "elected officials" and "duly-empowered lawful authorities" above (in bold)

Which is why Democrats are indeed the enemy of the people.

And I'd say that people who irresponsibly act in a manner that will prolong this national tragedy (COVID) are the real "enemy of the people".

Why don't you come arrest me for not wearing a mask and see how it works out for you?

Because:

1. I am not a government official with the requisite authority to do so (if such authority even exists)

2. And Michigan law does not allow for citizen's arrests, except under fairly narrow circumstances.
 
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danthewolf00

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If you don't think you can die from the flu but can from covid then your the problem not me.
I have had the Chinese runs where not even peptisbismo would stay in me and come out the same pink as it went in.
 
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Ragman

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If you don't think you can die from the flu but can from covid then your the problem not me.
I have had the Chinese runs where not even peptisbismo would stay in me and come out the same pink as it went in.
Typical Rabid Right-winger. Can't interpret what's written.


I never said you can't die from flu.
 
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Turtle

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Flu deaths I believe before covid-19 hit was 45k to 60k....
Those aren't real averages, either.

Most everybody knows someone who died in a car accident. About 40,000 to 50,000 a year die in car accidents.

Most everybody knows someone who died from a gunshot. About 40,000 people a year die from gunshots.

Most everybody knows someone who died from a drug overdose. About 50,000 to 60,000 people a year die from a drug overdose.

If 45,000 to 60,000 people died every year from time flu, most people would know at least one. But hardly anyone knows anybody at that died of the flu. Why is that? It's because the number of people who die from the flu is a fraction of what is reported. It's mostly to keep people scared enough to get flu shots every year, and by people getting flu shots every year it will reduce the likelihood of another flu epidemic or pandemic.

But the real number of people who die from the flu each year ranges from about 6,000 to 8,000 in normal years, to as many as 15,000 in a bad year.
 
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