If I'm a immigrant and thinking of crossing illegally.....This sounds like "A hell of a big wall" to me
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If ya cant go over it, then ya go under it.....
Largest single group of migrants ever tunnels under border wall in Arizona, says Border Protection
Largest single group of migrants ever tunnels under border wall in Arizona, says Border Protection
And Survey says.....Wall of steel for show...... and...... a wall of laws and punishments to stop the flow
Yep. They know that because they're not from Mexico they can't be immediately deported back to Mexico, and they know if they bring a kid with them they can say "asylum" be be released into the US after 20 days, never to be seen again.
Like I've been saying...... walls don't work.
If walls don't work, and clearly, obviously, incontrovertibly, irrefutably, incontestably, without question, they don't, not even a little bit, not under any circumstance, I assume then you are advocating for the removal of all existing walls, fences and other barriers at the southern border. Walls don't work, at all, so why have them?Like I've been saying...... walls don't work.
And while we're at it all the other walls, like walls around gated communities, White Houses, military bases, House Speaker's estates, automotive assembly plants, Vatican Cities, Israels, prisons, and corn mazes.
Obviously, walls aren't going to 100 percent effective (except for the wall between Israel and Egypt), and where a wall is porous even less so. But even a porous wall increases risk and slows down breaching. The 300 odd people that squirmed under the doggie tunnels in Arizona would have been thousands, or hundreds of thousands, if not for the wall.
Against how many attempts? I assure you that any barrier will slow people coming over. Just common sense. But in the meantime if it is just the political concern, The chief border patrol under Obama absolutely says the wall is needed. I will go with that thinking. Wonder why he thinks they are a good idea?
Against how many attempts? I assure you that any barrier will slow people coming over. Just common sense. But in the meantime if it is just the political concern, The chief border patrol under Obama absolutely says the wall is needed. I will go with that thinking. Wonder why he thinks they are a good idea?
More red vs blue ... right vs left .... snore ...
Against how many attempts? I assure you that any barrier will slow people coming over. Just common sense. But in the meantime if it is just the political concern, The chief border patrol under Obama absolutely says the wall is needed. I will go with that thinking. Wonder why he thinks they are a good idea?
More red vs blue ... right vs left .... snore ...
No. It's not political from my prospective. Common sense. Both sides are to blame. Should have been years ago, but better late than never.
But 3,760 didn't.
Do you know how many attempted during this blitz? If they wanna get across, they will. How long has this been going on? Centuries? Millennium? People migrate ... is that new?
Only thing that's ever going to stop them, is the desire to stay in their own countries.
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I really dont have a problem trying to stop the illegal immigration problem, but lets find and fix the problem, not waste billions with this folly.But 3,760 didn't.
Do you know how many attempted during this blitz? If they wanna get across, they will. How long has this been going on? Centuries? Millennium? People migrate ... is that new?
Only thing that's ever going to stop them, is wanting to stay in their own countries.
I personally don't, but I'm sure DHS has the numbers.
That's what prisoners think. Few of them are right.
Migration is not new at all. Illegal immigration, however, is relatively new. Whenever and wherever unrestrained immigration causes more problems than it's worth, restrictions are imposed to control immigration.
Well, massive numbers of drones armed with 40 caliber machine guns might.
Why is illegal immigration relatively new? This country had pretty much open borders until the 20th century. It used to be that if you found a way here from whatever miserable corner of the world you came from, you were in. You made it here, you survived .. ok make 'em a citizen. Why doesn't that apply now? Answer: politics. Some are afraid of how these people will vote.
We have over 10 million illegal people living here. Are we ever going to round up all these people and deport them? Even though some people would like this pipe dream, it's never gonna happen ... like never! So why not just make them citizens? Answer: again politics.
I'm not a proponent for illegal immigration. My family legally immigrated, my wife did .. but the fervor with which we debate this topic is mind numbing. There are simpler solutions. Truth is, we like the argument.
We have over 10 million illegal people living here. Are we ever going to round up all these people and deport them? Even though some people would like this pipe dream, it's never gonna happen ... like never! So why not just make them citizens? Answer: again politics.
I'm not a proponent for illegal immigration. My family legally immigrated, my wife did .. but the fervor with which we debate this topic is mind numbing. There are simpler solutions. Truth is, we like the argument.
Where do plan on finding this problem? Is it in the Detroit metro area? Is the problem in Michigan. How about the lower 48 states? Maybe add Alaska and Hawaii to the search list. No luck? Try looking at the countries these people are coming from. Do you see a problem there? Nothing trillions of dollars and a coup d'é·tat wouldn't cure.
The real problem with immigration to this country compared to 19th and early 20th century immigration is that we can't afford the strain on our current social services. We already have 4th, 5th and 6th generations of welfare recipients. Until we get that burden under control we can't afford to allow more uneducated, unskilled people into this country. Early immigrants filled a need for unskilled labor building railroads, mining, logging, law enforcement and the priesthood. Not much need for these positions today. With the exception of the priesthood. Also this country is in short supply of expedite cargo van operators. A job that could be fulfilled by unskilled immigrants.
The open border is more than just an immigration problem, it allows anyone, anything and everything free access to this country. Why do I have to have a FAST card, customs papers, etc. to enter Canada? Even more so, why do I have to have the same plus pay a fee to enter back into the USA, my country. Oh yeah, I'm a citizen with a job.
The problem for decades is it has become so political and through the dribble of liberal court decisions, you now have open borders. If they voted Republican the wall would have been up decades ago. Lol
that is why you need the wall. It is a more permanent decision on closing the border which is exactly why the democrats don't want it.
that is why you need the wall. It is a more permanent decision on closing the border which is exactly why the democrats don't want it.