The socialist debate

[cheri1122]

That's really it, right there. The rich have something I don't have, therefore they should be punished. WAAA WAAA WAAA. It's childish jealousy that liberal never grew out of. They'll try and justify it all kinds of ways, bit it all stems from hate. Liberals hate the rich. It's not that they merely dislike them, of they're annoyed by them, they absolutely and utterly hate the rich. They'll say they don't, then in the next breath propose changes and punishments that only come from hate.

What liberals hate is not "the rich", [there are plenty of rich people I respect and admire tremendously: Stephen King, Denzel Washington, Steve Buscemi, Gary Sinise, to name a few]. What liberals hate is the use of power to harm others, and the rich simply have more opportunities to do that.

The Liberal broken record is this: the rich are all actual or incipient criminals. Otherwise, how could they be rich? Anybody with success or its prospects should be taxed severely. Corporations are all greedy, thieving conspiracies that should be closed and shuttered, or even better, just signed over to the workers.

No one believes the rich are all criminals, but it's crystal clear that those who are [Wall Street] go unpunished.

If Liberals can, for just one moment, try to mind their own business, perhaps focusing on bettering themselves financially instead of bringing everybody else down, maybe, just maybe, we can fix our shaky economy and get on the path to prosperity once again. In context, it's clear to most Americans now that, as dysfunctional as the Republicans are, the Democrats simply don't know what they're doing.

The assumption that liberals wish to be rich themselves is totally unsupported by any evidence whatsoever - it's just a convenient deflection, in place of a response.
Conservatives are still demanding tax cuts for business [that never have and never can produce jobs], more cuts to 'social welfare' including Social Security [rather than an emphasis on cutting fraud & waste, and cutting foreign aid], and even more spending on defense [because meddling in the Middle East has worked so well, so far].
Instead of working on funding better education for all, [vouchers are another slap at less advantaged people], raising wages [that raises the demand for products & services that prompts hiring - the ONLY way to 'create' jobs], looking for ways & means to make both college and vocational education affordable [so people can aspire to the middle class, whatever their abilities], the conservatives are consumed with defunding Planned Parenthood, [because of a highly misleading 'gotcha' video series that has been thoroughly debunked], investigating HRC and the IRS [because all previous investigations didn't provide the answers they want], and fighting among themselves for more power in the Senate & House.
They're ALL dysfunctional, in one way or another, but the conservatives are doing [or trying to] real harm by promoting religion and other myths [you can succeed, if you just work hard enough] instead of facing reality.

 

[xiggi]

You had a pretty good response going there but really messed it up with that last paragraph.

 

[LDB]

Shades of Beckel/Madow/Schultz

 

[cheri1122]

You had a pretty good response going there but really messed it up with that last paragraph.

Sorry, but that's what I see. It's the religious interests that promote such utter stupidity as 'abstinence only' sex education, 'Crisis Pregnancy Centers' that not only lie, but can delay a woman from having any real choice in whether to terminate a pregnancy - if she can find a clinic open within a reasonable distance [which is less & less likely in Texas]. Religion is why Kim Davis refused to do her job, and why textbook writers are undermining science with 'intelligent design', and today, a 12 year old who answered a multiple choice question [Fact, commonly held assertion, or opinion] on whether God is real by choosing fact was appalled [and so is her mother!] to be told that it is NOT a fact. Religion is why I can't buy rum on Sunday, for crying out loud! [If I were a serious drinker, I'd have thought of it on Saturday, right?] There was and is an excellent reason the Founding Fathers explicitly prohibit government from espousing religion, [while also preventing it from prohibiting individuals' right to believe as they choose], and that's because it's a can of worms the size of the entire universe.
Also too, it's no longer true that hard work equals advancement in the workplace. Nowadays, hard work means you might be able to keep your job, but even that isn't a given - it could disappear tomorrow, if it increases the profits of the decision makers.

 

[LDB]

There was and is an excellent reason the Founding Fathers explicitly prohibit government from espousing religion,

What does that even mean? The Founding Fathers explicitly prohibit government from establishing a specific government sponsored religion like the Church of England. Many people, like Mikey Weinstein and others, choose not to understand that observance and establishment are two distinctly different things.

 

[cheri1122]

What does that even mean? The Founding Fathers explicitly prohibit government from establishing a specific government sponsored religion like the Church of England. Many people, like Mikey Weinstein and others, choose not to understand that observance and establishment are two distinctly different things.

The Establishment clause is about preventing the government from using religion against people, as the Church of England did.
The government cannot 'observe' religion without choosing one or another, because 'religion' is not just one thing: it's many. And even withing the sphere of Christianity, there are differences, schisms, splinters, offshoots, and no way to accommodate them all without offending some.
People use the terms 'religion', Christian', and the 'Bible' as if there's just the one of each, but it's not that simple, and wasn't even in the 1700's.

 

[RoadTime]

Hey when does this free health care start? Just got my renewal letter. My Obamacare Premium almost doubled. Guess I'll be looking to see about getting even less coverage now

 

[iceroadtrucker]

Hey when does this free health care start? Just got my renewal letter. My Obamacare Premium almost doubled. Guess I'll be looking to see about getting even less coverage now

Hey man you got to wait your turn your on a waiting list just like all us vets are. Waiting for Dental work so I can Smile like Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton Better Yet Jaws on James bond 007. Moon Raker

 

[iceroadtrucker]

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The less money is because of the socialistic Ways that's slowly enveloped through out this country. Weather be Gov't or Companies. If U want to work then by gosh let one work. stop the Caps and Limits and watches on how much one person or unite makes. I didn't serve this country for a stinking Socialistic Society. I do believe What Jefferson said to the Lady when he was asked, what they had given the people.. He said "We Gave You a Republic if you can keep it." That being said Republic which means Limit Less. You can do anything, make as much as you want or need. Putting caps on how much one can make. Wrong Answer. Its evident that the Government and many Companies are doing this. I for one didn't put 23 years of mine time Serving this Country Of which 90% of it I was Deployed. To come back states side and find nothing more than Socialistic Communistic Crap. Control over how much one makes or work one gets. I see this all over. The last 11 years I have seen this. It makes me Mad inside to see what this is all becoming. Look to the West and tell me what you see... Just the Other day the Navy did a test fire of a Trident Missal... Really yes now look at another aspect China and Soviet Union Getting closer and Closer to US. Heck the new Islands that China Made well they said when we got close its was an act of war. All brewing , That not the Half of it. Look to the East What do you see. Yes Sir one big Mess there as well. Iran, and ISIS and the Lot. Weather you Cubical Crunchers know it or not Its coming and let me tell them pretty boys that stand over you and u get all goggle-eyed over they wont help you. They cant even help them selves. Other than make Rules to control, but when it all hits the fan they will run. Why because of now they things have become Socialistic. Government look at it they want the Guns Gone.. What else free hand outs vice work. Mothers having babies and collecting off the Gov't getting food stamps free housing while dead beat dads " no where to be found" Right.. But they are Actually Living there. Really Yes all the time. It's out here open your eyes and look. Then want to talk about Illegals In this Country that get Free food Meds and if some one say something about that OOO MY GOSH. So wrong Really while you have Vets in the Country that are on Waiting lists for Med Needs or Struggling to raise enough money for the Spouses Medical needs.. Surgery. That's really Right isn't it. NO and its wrong. Yup so go ahead keep Kicking the can down the road into the Socialistic and Communistic Ways. I Say No. People that Believe in this is those that Jobs of that stature (Bean Counters) Ironic isn't it. A lot of irony around here. Yes sir there is. Many on here I see afraid because they have big fleets afraid to say something as it might offend someone. If the shoe fits so be it. Getting back to Republic that what we were given so lets get back to that and dump this Socialistic Communistic Junk. Which means Control of how much we make , have , own. On another note Shaun Ward outa Nevada I do hope you like your accommodations in the Monona County Onawa IA Jail...Going up for a min of 15 years. You should have never came to Iowa. I made the call dirt bag Unlike Nevada.. Iowa Country boys our Eyes are sharp as Hawks. Rusty Collision after I called watched you with Night vision and Got you on 3 Felony Counts. That 15 year min for a repeat offender. Black Heart u should have stayed in Nevada. Still doing good in a Socialistic Economy. So to speak. That thorn is removed. To my Better Half I made a Promise Failure is not an option. Dispatch its time Work us Hard. Roll this Tractor Trailer.

 

[iceroadtrucker]

YES SIR!


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