The Mother Load's here!

[Tennesseahawk]

No Problem... if I remember correctly, a couple of months ago you were crying you couldn't make a couple of runs with Express-1. Now all of a sudden, you're saying you've been preparing for lean times 4 to 5 months ago? Seems to me something's fishy here. Irregardless of the screwed up time frame, I think $1000 for a single is on the rare side, and $2000 is probably just plain illegal, unless you're getting bonuses for oiling a snake. Sorry to say, this thread sounds like a Carelton Sheets infommercial. You have one guy coming on saying "I've made a million dollars in two weeks and I didn't hafta rob granny's bank account." Then here comes Carelton, "Thank you Jim Bob, that was nice of you to say. And you know folks, YOU TOO can get in on this amazing offer..."
Sorry... but I'm raising my hand on this one. Don't want to get my watch dirty. :-(

T-hawk

 

[Tom Robertson]

>Tom, Can you give us some real world figures on 2004 average
>gross revenue for a team? Average gross revenue for a
>single? Also do you employ company drivers as well as
>independent contractors?

I'll be happry to discuss this with you
Please give me a call

502.326.0500

 

[Tom Robertson]

Tennesse...
Your comments are out of line. We have had three different drivers post confirming our claims.
I've tried before to explain our program but certain individuals either cannot grasp the concept, refuse to believe that anyone can beat their revenue, or just like to throw bombs at those who excel.
I refuse to get into all that again, so you just go on believing whatever floats your boat.

Post whatever you wish... but do not expect a reply.

"Those who refuse to think outside the box are destined to live in the box." tr2

 

[Dreamer]

T-Hawk,

I understand your skepticism.. but we have had 3 seperate drivers now comfirm the money they're making with Tom.. including now NoProblem, who we know is VERY vocal when he doesn't like a company!

:+ :+ :+ :+

If this were a court case, the defendant would be convicted with 3 witnesses!

While it may seem that their numbers sound high, I think we have to lend a little credibility to their claims. Evidently, they have found a profitable spot for them. One key point to remember.. they're not giving FedEx, Panther, etc a cut of the money... this is not a Fleet Owner leased and taking a percentage of a percentage.. they ARE the company, paying their drivers.

Heck, if we get many more drivers telling how great Tom is, we'll have to start charging him by the word to post. ... LOL ~~



Dreamer

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Anyone who succeeds has my blessing. As for what you're dishing out, I have this quote to counter yours... "He who buys need one hundred eyes. But only one's enough for those who sell the stuff." Ben Franklin

 

[Weave]

Just remember everyone, you can't win! Everyone whines when someone comes on and says only bad things about a certain company. Then when people come on and say only good things guess what... more whining! That's what makes forums fun! Have a merry Christmas:7 :7
-Weave-

 

[raceman]

NoProblem, sorry. I went back and read my post and did sound positive about the straight truck business for Jan- March. Actually I am not concerned about that period anyway but I do want to apoligize for being very misleading in that post. Although I personally am going to be very busy during that period who knows if the trucks will. I have alot of things that start up Jan 1 and will go through about June. I guess that will keep me very busy. To be clear this is all things I do outside of expediting. I am not positive about the two trucks I have. I may actually go belly up during that time but I am going to be so busy with my things I am not sure I will have time to let it eat me alive. I have been lucky over my lifetime and because of that I have began to give back like the Lord says I should and it just happens that I am doing a number of projects as a result of that. I am going to do my best here to tell you one more time congrats on getting to where you are happy and making good money. It is horrible to be unhappy and not making the money you need to make. Sounds like you have a great future where you are, I did drop you a perosnal note too. I hope it can go without attack.Best of luck and enjoy the new year.

 

[jimbo van]

WOW A MOTHER LOAD OF POST'S !!!!!!Glad to see I'm not the only -long winded one.Look's like Noproblem found a home?Good luck and Happy Holidays to all.Jimbo

 

[NoProblem]

Tennesseahawk,

I suppose if we ever met, you would see that I am not out to defame anyone or to lie, exagerate or mis-represent anyone. I am excited to spread some really great news with the hopes that other drivers who have been in the same situation as myself might enjoy working for a truly unique company - one that honestly cares about the driver and places the driver's needs above its own - hard to believe? YES, true? I am a testament to that fact.

if I remember correctly, a couple of months ago you were crying you couldn't make a couple of runs with Express-1. Now all of a sudden, you're saying you've been preparing for lean times 4 to 5 months ago? Seems to me something's fishy here.

I went to E1 with the understanding that they paid "D" rates, had minimal DH and had plenty of paid miles to offer - what better way to prepare for the up and coming skinny times?

Well, as I posted, it did not work out for me because the best I could muster was $300 per week BEFORE taxes.........I considered THAT a crime against me and any other driver who goes thru that - so I quit.

I think $1000 for a single is on the rare side, and $2000 is probably just plain illegal, unless you're getting bonuses for oiling a snake. Sorry to say, this thread sounds like a Carelton Sheets infommercial.

The dollar figures that I posted with A. Blair were run 100% legally. Granted, it took some good time management on my part and some excellent scheduling on Tom's - but they were legal. And even if they weren't - so what, E1 knowingly gave me a 700+ mile run they KNEW I could not run leagaly - whats your point?

You are 100% correct in your assumption that $1000 for a solo is on the rare side - because with most companies out there they keep the profits that are actually due to the driver - A. Blair does not do this and thats one thing that makes up the difference.

The only reason its harder for me to do better is because some runs I could not take were genuine team runs - which is why I tried to stress that teams would reap awesome profits. Teams - and if I could find a dependable partner - we could EASILY net OVER $4000.00 PER WEEK.

Put it this way, if you own your own truck and as a solo are not netting in the neighborhood of $2k per week, blame the company you are signed on with because they are either taking advantage of you or are incapable of doing their job - never mind that they do it with a smile, they are sticking it to you. I'm not saying this to insult, I am merely stating the fact as I know it and as I have experienced it for the last five years.

Sorry you are skeptical but I did not post anything that is untrue.

In any case, I posted this thread for those who might be interested to pm me and I will explain to them over the phone my experience with A. Blair so that they too might enjoy getting paid well while getting great runs that reap great profits - incase they are in the situation I was in because I do not believe anyone deserves that.

I did not decide on a whim to post a lie - that is not me and is actually far from me.

Any way, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year my friend!

Steve

 

[NoProblem]

Thanks Dreamer!

I tend to call 'em as I see 'em, I have no reason to lie or exagerate.

I really do have a desire to see other deserving drivers who have been unduely or unintentionally cheated to experience what I have with A. Blair - as I said, they can thank me later.

Have a great Christmas!

Steve

 

[NoProblem]

Shawn, don't sweat the small stuff, sometimes communicating in this format can be a real challenge!

Have a great Christmas!
Steve

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Yeah, I'm a skeptic... especially when someone's telling me they're doing 4% dh among other things. Call it WHINING if you want, Weaver, I call it an opinion. I'm just trying to save a few newbies some grief. And I'm surprised at the other "veterans" because I know most of them have seen a song and dance such as this. Everyone who's seen my posts on here know I choose my battles carefully. Tom owns a company... therefore he's a salesman. Take a look at his advertisement. He won't put one on this site, he's got to post how wonderful a guy and company he is. I'm saying I don't buy it. Keep posting, I'm done with this thread.

 

[Weave]

I will admit Hawk the posts do sound like a sales pitch, and I don't generally like that sort of thing. But how often do you see the owner of a trucking company come on an open forum and be willing to put his money where his mouth is? I have never seen it myself. I also don't think Tom has been holding a gun to his driver's heads telling them to make the claims. Really great places for drivers and contractors DO exist, with earning potentials well beyond what is considered the expediting "norm." Looks to me this place is is offering what will be LESS grief to the newcomer than what I am accostomed to seeing in expediting, and something that I would at least CONSIDER if I were starting out fresh in this business or if I were having a hard time getting started someplace else. Remember, as a driver, if you don't like a place you are at you can always walk away. It is good to be skeptical Hawk, and ask as many questions as possible.

Have a good holiday, and be safe,
-Weave-

 

[Tom Robertson]

Weave:

I appreciate your post.

NoProblem is not exactly a newbie and as a matter of fact we do not and will not enter into agreements with newbies.

Every driver/partner in our organization has a minimum of two years in the expedited industry, and most have many more than two. Our "on time performance records" indicate professional drivers.


I do believe however that the lable T-hawk used was a very good one.

skep•tic

1. One who instinctively or habitually doubts, questions, or disagrees with assertions or generally accepted conclusions

there is a marked difference between being (read:acting) SKEPTICAL and admitingly calling oneself a SKEPTIC.

So i give credit where credit is due... T-hawk... accurate self analysis!

 

[davekc]

Most of you know that I have been on both sides of the fence, including driving for a carrier and operating my own fleet of 15 trucks several years ago.
If Blair operated the same as the other carriers and put out the numbers and presentation that they do I would be very skeptical. Or I would simply think it was all B.S.
The major difference is that Blair is not operating the same as your bigger carriers. Yes, of course he bids on the same runs that everyone else is bidding on. The difference is two items. One is he has a fraction of the operating costs, and two, he owns the trucks. The motivation to keep them rolling is paramount to his and the drivers success. A large carrier has no investment so there interest in whether you make money or don't is entirely different. Their concern is to cover freight first. A company that owns the equipment will have different motives. It is not find a load,but finding a profitable one. A big difference. On the flip side, if a driver is losing money so is the company with this operation. That is not the case with a larger carrier.
The easiest explanation is that when one is competitive on rates and low overhead, it is easier to set up geographical patterns thus removing most DH and having longer runs.
One has to remember as well that with low DH, there are more available hours to run paid loaded miles.
Davekc

 

[guest]

I would have to agree that some of Tom's posts have definitely sounded like a "pitch" to attract drivers. In fact, I think he is usually pretty blunt about the fact that he is always looking for good teams.

I will say that I have seen at least 2 drivers post very positive posts on this message board about Tom's company. Although NoProblems figures do seem unreal (I honestly have no clue), if I were looking for an expedite driving job you can bet I would be contacting Tom and some of his other drivers to check this info out. As many have mentioned before, no matter what..Do your research! In fact, I believe Tom himself has made that statement many times.

The fact that Tom's drivers come on this forum and praise his company the way they do speaks volumes to me.

Arky...just a wannabe

 

[Weave]

You might want to add the required experience to your website recruiting page Tom, so that the greenhorns don't get all excited and ring your phones off the hook The company I run for also has a two year experience requirement, mandated by their insurance carrier. Newcomers are just about forced to start off with one of the big carriers now. I don't know from an insurance standpoint if that is a good or bad thing, because I think there are a lot more newcomers entering trucking who are a lot better drivers than some of the maniacs who have been at it 20 or 30 years. I guess they just rely on thier statistics.
-Weave-

Sorry Tom, I do see the exp. requirement is there.

 

[Stranded]

Thanks daveck and all, and a special thanks to noproblem - Steve - who I spoke with last night for a long time. Only thing I can say for sure is that I will for sure be looking you up again when I get my two years exprience.


I just want to say to some who are skepticale that noproblem (Steve) is an upstanding guy and has my respect. Best of luck Steve and have a very merry Christmas. :7 :7

 

[NoProblem]

Wow, thanks for the kind words Stranded.

Thanks for the excellent explanation Davekc, you said it the way it is.

Weave, glad you know how this game works!

Arky, you would do well to check out Blair, but do it after working for a few of the bigger companies - you'd appreciate it a whole lot more IMHO

Hope ya'll are enjoying Christmas!

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Generally accepted conclusions are the status quo. Wasn't it you who said to think outside the box? Touche