Teacher can tell kids how many times to potty??

johndeereman

Active Expediter
Some common sense and knowing the chilld.But unless you have taught in the public school you really dont know what is going on.I have said sorry and then laughed to myself saying geez that is your 4th period this month.Now a real incident from my sons school.A petit lady teacher walks up on a fight 2 teen boys15 and 18, repeatidly tells them to stop or she is going to dump her tea on them.She did, now a silly parent wants the teacher prosecuted for assault.This woulb be a silly prosecution in my world.How about being ****ed at your child for fighting in school.
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
This is ridiculous! :mad:
Maybe, maybe not. If anything it'll teach kids a little responsibility. These kids are in school for about 7 hours. They have the opportunity to go to the restroom before school starts, during morning recess, lunch, and then a couple of hours later at the end of the school day. The longest time period between available restroom breaks is 2.5 hours. Limiting interruptions during class to three additional restroom breaks per week per child isn't all that ridiculous when you think about it. It prevents kids from wanting to go to the restroom any time they don't want to listen to what the teacher is saying, and they get rewarded for not using their tickets.
 

twentyhigh

Seasoned Expediter
It isn't ridiculous at all. At my child's school, they go in the morning, at lunch and then in the afternoon. Unfortunately, there are children that will do anything to get out of the classroom! They have to lose a conduct grade if they choose to go outside of those times. You'd be surprisedhow many don't need to go when faced with dropping conduct.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
The opening line of the article says it all;

NEW YORK -- Parents at a Brooklyn elementary school are furious over a fifth-grade teacher’s bathroom policy that prohibits students from jetting to the john more than three times a week.

Given the fact that this is the NYC public school system, where they can't control the teachers, then I would think it makes a great case for parents to fight for their children like freedom fighters in other parts of the world - with every means possible.

I know that sounds harsh but doesn't anyone give a crap about real child abuse in this country?

End public schools, end institutionalized child abuse
 

twentyhigh

Seasoned Expediter
the problem with alot of parents is that they have never stepped foot into their childs classroom. Go, visit and see what really goes on in there. I am not saying that there are not bad teachers out there - but this is such a non issue! Focus on the teacher actually being able to teach - not having so many interuptions! If your child were to come home and say they cannot learn because the teacher has to stop every ten minutes for someone to go to the bathroom - what would you say then?
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
the problem with alot of parents is that they have never stepped foot into their childs classroom. Go, visit and see what really goes on in there.

Nailed it !!!!

More times than not, most parents don't get involved until there is an issue (or non-issue such as this). Then they want to cry about little Johnny or little Suzie being treated unfairly. Get a grip people!
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
I know that sounds harsh but doesn't anyone give a crap about real child abuse in this country?


Child abuse?

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greg334

Veteran Expediter
Yes child abuse. Look around, how many of these kids are even equipped for real life and it isn't always the parents fault.

Public schools are an institution which is a lot like the institution of slavery. The present school system structure is rotting away and between the bad teachers, the unions and the interference of the government, the standards of the schools have been so low that we turn to what is considered third world countries for labor to just assemble simple plastic things.

If we as a nation continue to be so clueless on what constitutes a good education, then we will continue to produce people who in the majority can't handle real life and remain glued to a virtual world where they will never produce and only take.

Why is it that my father has a better education than his grandkids, all of which have far better grades than he ever achieved?

What is the difference between then (40's) and now?

A kid earning an A or 4.0 in a public school sometimes has problems competing with the same aged student from say china or India or even Canada. Why?

Yep child abuse.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Nailed it !!!!

More times than not, most parents don't get involved until there is an issue (or non-issue such as this). Then they want to cry about little Johnny or little Suzie being treated unfairly. Get a grip people!

And what are they supposed to do, complain?

We don't have a system where we can hold anyone accountable, the school boards are a joke, the administrator is top heavy and the profession of teaching is just like the profession of law or some other closed profession where they tend to protect themselves at all levels.
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
Yes child abuse. Look around, how many of these kids are even equipped for real life and it isn't always the parents fault.

Public schools are an institution which is a lot like the institution of slavery. The present school system structure is rotting away and between the bad teachers, the unions and the interference of the government, the standards of the schools have been so low that we turn to what is considered third world countries for labor to just assemble simple plastic things.

If we as a nation continue to be so clueless on what constitutes a good education, then we will continue to produce people who in the majority can't handle real life and remain glued to a virtual world where they will never produce and only take.

Why is it that my father has a better education than his grandkids, all of which have far better grades than he ever achieved?

What is the difference between then (40's) and now?

A kid earning an A or 4.0 in a public school sometimes has problems competing with the same aged student from say china or India or even Canada. Why?

Yep child abuse.

Well d@mn' Greg, what's that got to do with letting a kid go to the bathroom? sheesh.

btw, your father probably wasn't hyped up on sugar and energy drinks and was able to sit in one place for more than 5 minutes.
 

ts675

Seasoned Expediter
I dunno but they have rules like that where my daughter goes to school and I can see why they don't let them run to the toilet every 20 mins. That being said I have always told her if you truely have to go you get up and go. I will deal with the school. But my kids all know that if its BS and they are messing around they won't be worried about the bathroom for awhile.

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Turtle

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The opening line of the article says it all;
Well, it says a lot, but it certainly doesn't say it all, not to mention it's misleading.

NEW YORK -- Parents at a Brooklyn elementary school are furious over a fifth-grade teacher’s bathroom policy that prohibits students from jetting to the john more than three times a week.

The students already have 4 x 5 = 20 bathroom opportunities per week. The teacher's policy would limit any additional bathroom breaks, which can only occur in the middle of class, to three classroom interruptions per week per student.

Frankly, some kid who failed to go a half hour ago, and can't hold it for another hour until lunch, should hear "NO" when they ask to go to the bathroom. If they sit there and pее in their pants, they (and the entire classroom) will have learned a very valuable life lesson they can take with them their entire lives.

Given the fact that this is the NYC public school system, where they can't control the teachers, then I would think it makes a great case for parents to fight for their children like freedom fighters in other parts of the world - with every means possible.
Freedom fighters? Over their snotty little brats trying to get out of class by abusing the restroom breaks?

I know that sounds harsh but doesn't anyone give a crap about real child abuse in this country?
Harsh? No. Ridiculous? Yes.

End public schools, end institutionalized child abuse
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witness23

Veteran Expediter
And what are they supposed to do, complain?

We don't have a system where we can hold anyone accountable, the school boards are a joke, the administrator is top heavy and the profession of teaching is just like the profession of law or some other closed profession where they tend to protect themselves at all levels.

I am assuming you are speaking from first hand experience. Am I correct? If so, do you have kids in public school now or have you ever? Just trying to see where you are coming from is all.
 

Turtle

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I am assuming you are speaking from first hand experience. Am I correct? If so, do you have kids in public school now or have you ever? Just trying to see where you are coming from is all.
You can't ask a personal question like that while at the same time refusing to answer the same question about you and whether or not you are an expediter. You just can't. It's too hypocritical even to hypocrites. :rolleyes:
 

witness23

Veteran Expediter
You can't ask a personal question like that while at the same time refusing to answer the same question about you and whether or not you are an expediter. You just can't. It's too hypocritical even to hypocrites. :rolleyes:

hmmmm......seems to me I just did.

Same question? I thought we were talking about kids able to go potty, not who is or who is not an expediter. Try and stay on topic Mr. Moderator.
 
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