So you have a gun in your truck?

Jefferson3000

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It looks like that story has been rewritten since I last read it. The original said that the assailant had to beg the victim to stop shooting at him, because his gun was fake. It turns out, that it was not.
 

layoutshooter

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Most governments these days frown on those who chose to protect themselves. I would LOVE to have several guns on my truck. My "short" shotgun for protection, a deer rifle and my "regular" shotgun. Then I would have most of my firearms needs met and have LOTS to do on weekend off!! But alas, FEDEX says that is a no-no and it is not worth the trouble in certain marxist states and countries who prefer that everyone remain a victim.
For the most part "FUN" is illegal" in those places as well. Smiling bans go into effect on Jan 25th, 2013.
 

AMonger

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Well I find this as a lame excuse and will cause the criminal to ensure they are safe -

In recent years, many truckers hauling high-dollar loads have found themselves targets for criminals looking to make a quick buck by robbing them of their possessions, freight and – in some cases – their lives.

If you as a trucker shoots someone who is robbing them, it may escalate the problem. A lot of crime happens by gangs and they won't take too kindly to the gun fight and will just start opening their crime with shooting the person and not caring.

ALSO the risk of having someone shooting in a bad situation say in a truck stop or even on the side of the road where others are around (driving by) could cause other legal issues.

The freight isn't important.
It would be foolish to use a gun to protect the freight, even if the State or substandard carriers didn't prohibit it. If a driver carries a gun, it should only be there to protect himself.

The driver in the OP was an idiot for telling the cops he had it.
 
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layoutshooter

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It would be foolish to use a gun to protect the freight, even if the State or substandard carriers didn't prohibit it. If a driver carries a gun, it should only be there to protect himself.

The driver in the OP was an idiot for telling the chips he had it.


It is THIS simple in my book. No freight or truck is worth the lives of my wife and myself. NO criminals life is worth anything if they are a threat to innocent lives. I would shot to kill without concern for ANYONE who threatens our lives or the lives of other innocent people.
 

AMonger

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I carry a can of wasp spray in the door....that will reach out 10'....and perfectly legal to carry.....

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1) California will charge you with a felony if you do so; 2) it's a violation of federal law to use wasp spray in a manner inconsistent with its labeling; 3) the efficacy of wasp spray as a self-defense tool is highly exaggerated.
 

AMonger

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If you do not declare the weapon, the charge is even more severe.

Any person with a CCW, the first words out of their mouth to the officer, as he keeps his hands on the wheel, in plain sight, is: "Officer, I have a CCW permit and my weapon is, (where ever), how would you like me to proceed?"

My wife, the cop, usually responds, "May I see your permit, AND keep your hands in plain sight at all times, or it may get ugly here!" Though in Ohio, if that is where your permit is issued, she will know before she approaches the vehicle, as the fact the registered owner of that vehicle has a CCW issued is displayed along with other information.
That's in the Suckeye State, land of rogue cops. That notification is unique to Ohio.
 

AMonger

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The only gun permit necessary was written by the founders. We call it the Second Amendment. It recognizes a pre-existing human right to be armed.
 

layoutshooter

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That's in the Suckeye State, land of rogue cops. That notification is unique to Ohio.

The wording may be unique to Ohio but not the requirement to notify. Michigan requires an individual who is carrying a concealed weapon to inform police if stopped.
 

AMonger

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"Most" states, that do not have CCW permits, or reciprocity with the sate of issue, (your experience may be different), say if you legally own the weapon, have a permit for it in your home state of record, you may indeed have it in your pocession, IF, you have the weapon disabled, such as weapon LOCKED in one location, and the ammo LOCKED in another.

The Federal Firearm Owners Protection Act mandates that no state may prosecute you for having a firearm in your possession if:

• it's legal where you're coming from;
• it's legal where you're going to;
• you keep it locked up, inaccessible to the driver, separate from the ammunition.

But then again, getting that enforced may cost you a lot in legal fees. Like the Bill of Rights itself, many states view it as optional.

"Must be 18, some restrictions may apply, not available in all states."
 

AMonger

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The wording may be unique to Ohio but not the requirement to notify. Michigan requires an individual who is carrying a concealed weapon to inform police if stopped.

If it's not in the wording, then what is the basis for the requirement? A whim?
 

layoutshooter

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If it's not in the wording, then what is the basis for the requirement? A whim?

The CCW law in Michigan requires that a person must inform police that they are carrying if indeed they are. There is no "required" wording. The basis is to provide protection for both police and the individual. I think it is silly but that is the law.
 

ts675

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There is an old saying that I truely believe in these days. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Everyone has their own opinion on this matter it is just a shame that some of those opinions infringe on others beliefs. "Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns".

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layoutshooter

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There is an old saying that I truely believe in these days. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Everyone has their own opinion on this matter it is just a shame that some of those opinions infringe on others beliefs. "Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns".

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Those "other opinions" are NOT infringing on beliefs, they are infringing on our RIGHTS!!!
 

AMonger

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The CCW law in Michigan requires that a person must inform police that they are carrying if indeed they are. There is no "required" wording. The basis is to provide protection for both police and the individual. I think it is silly but that is the law.
Crazy-@$$ rust belt states...
 

layoutshooter

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Crazy-@$$ rust belt states...

I think you would find that many of the States that have CCW laws have similar wording in them. I think that CCW laws are in themselves unconstitutional or at least unneeded. We already have a right to carry in the US Constitution.
 
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