So sad.

layoutshooter

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This story is SO sad. What is wrong with people in this country any more? They see this old man, crawling, after having his car stolen and his was beaten, and they IGNORE him! I saw the film of this this morning. I was embarrassed to be from the area and embarrassed to be an American. We are becoming a nation of self-centered wimps.

How can any normal human being ignore a fellow man in trouble? As the saying goes:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".





WWII vet says nobody helped after he was carjacked



DETROIT (AP) — A World War II veteran said nobody helped him in the minutes after he was attacked and carjacked during daylight at a busy Detroit gas station and he had to crawl across a concrete parking lot to get help.


A roughly four-minute surveillance video shows 86-year-old Aaron Brantley struggling to get from the fuel pump to the gas station's door as people walked and drove by him Wednesday morning. The video was first obtained by the Detroit Free Press.


Brantley told The Associated Press said several people passed by him as he crawled, unable to walk because his leg was broken in the attack. The carjacker knocked Brantley down, took his keys and drove off in his car about 10:40 a.m.


"I was trying to go in ... and see if somebody could call the police and an ambulance because I couldn't stand. I had to crawl — I tried two or three times to get up," Brantley said Saturday. He said he was on way home from Bible study when he stopped to put gas in his 2010 Chrysler 200, which he recently bought to replace another car that had been stolen.


"People were passing me just like I wasn't there. ... I was crawling and they just walk by me like I'm not there," he said.


Brantley said as he approached the building, he asked a woman to open the door for him. He said at first it appeared she wasn't going to but she did and then kept walking. He found it distressing that nobody helped him.


"Any time a person is crawling on the ground, you know something happened to them," Brantley said.


Station manager Haissam Jaber said he didn't see the attack but called 911 after a customer alerted him. As Brantley sat on rock salt, waiting for an ambulance to come, he offered money to a stranger to drive him to his house a few blocks away. The customer refused the money and drove Brantley home, where an ambulance took him to the hospital.


Jaber said he also gave police another surveillance video from just before the carjacking that shows Brantley coming in to pay the cashier. A man looked at Brantley and left without buying anything, then headed in the direction from which the carjacker approached Brantley and his car, Jaber said.


Jaber said violent crime isn't common at the gas station, which is next to the University of Detroit Mercy campus. He said there was a carjacking about four months ago, but it happened at 1 a.m. and nobody was attacked.


Detroit Police spokeswoman Sgt. Eren Stephens said Saturday there have been no arrests in the case. The Free Press reported that a man later found Brantley's phone number in his Bible on the stolen car's front seat and called him. The car had been abandoned hours later and a few miles away with its wheels and radio missing.


Brantley, who said he has eight children and chuckled after adding "about 18 grandchildren," said people wonder how he can maintain a sense of humor after his experience.


"I'm just glad I'm still living," said Brantley, who retired after a 31-year career at Chrysler as a welder. "Nowadays, people are doing away with you when they do things like that"



http://news.yahoo.com/wwii-vet-says-nobody-helped-carjacked-212827755.html
 

Ragman

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You can blame the legal system. It has created the "I don't want to get involved" mentality that is so prevalent today.
 

layoutshooter

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You can blame the legal system. It has created the "I don't want to get involved" mentality that is so prevalent today.

I guess, a MAN would not care about the legal system. Cowards every where. Cops can't do the job, and then they want to disarm us? In their EAR!. Too bad there was no one there who was carrying. It is for things like this that this old man often carries.
 

layoutshooter

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Of course, this happened in Detroit.


As I said, I am embarrassed to be from the area. Those people who ignored that old man, crawling on the ground with his leg broken, should flush themselves down a drain. There is no reason for ANYONE like that to exist.
 

clcooper

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if the old man was on welfare and not a vet . you would be saying something different . and that is why things like that is happening
 

layoutshooter

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if the old man was on welfare and not a vet . you would be saying something different . and that is why things like that is happening


Where do you come up with stuff like this from? If you cannot come in here and not try to cause trouble, don't come in.

Your remarks are NOT on subject.
 

LDB

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Seeing the criminal do it and being ready to shoot a fleeing felon? Seeing the criminal do it and being ready to run him down and park the van on top of him until police arrive? So many excellent options and pleasant thoughts can come out of this horrible event.
 

layoutshooter

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Worse has happened here.
It is the mentality of people that always has been.


Maybe in Detroit, I am not used to cowards. If that is the norm I am happy I don't live there.

I don't think that mentality has 'always been there' either. It is not what I remember growing up in that area.
 

greg334

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Well you don't seem to look around much. See the issue has been discussed a lot of times before and things like this is more common than one would think. From cases going back to the mid-19th century to Kitty Genovese to the toddler in china and now an old man getting ignored. The vet thing has nothing to do with it other than sensationize the news.

Start with looking up Kitty Genovese and see what I mean.

I wish people would step up, but even with the lady who was knocked down at Aldi's month ago or so, not one person stepped up and do anything to help her. I can pm you with an idea who was standing near her and could has stopped it.
 

clcooper

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Where do you come up with stuff like this from? If you cannot come in here and not try to cause trouble, don't come in.

Your remarks are NOT on subject.



This story is SO sad. What is wrong with people in this country any more?
I was embarrassed to be from the area and embarrassed to be an American. We are becoming a nation of self-centered wimps.

How can any normal human being ignore a fellow man in trouble?

you asked i answered .since i used the word you .YOU automatic think i meant YOU
(layoutshooter)
it is sad that the guy didnt get help . and it is sad people would not help either .
if you saw me along the road needing help would you stop and help me . and if not WHY wont you stop and help .
 

layoutshooter

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Well you don't seem to look around much. See the issue has been discussed a lot of times before and things like this is more common than one would think. From cases going back to the mid-19th century to Kitty Genovese to the toddler in china and now an old man getting ignored. The vet thing has nothing to do with it other than sensationize the news.

Start with looking up Kitty Genovese and see what I mean.

I wish people would step up, but even with the lady who was knocked down at Aldi's month ago or so, not one person stepped up and do anything to help her. I can pm you with an idea who was standing near her and could has stopped it.

I look around a lot. I guess it's just for most of my life I have been around people who would act. All I am used to seeing is GOOD people. I don't care who did not do what, scum is scum.

As the saying goes:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".

Maybe that saying is no correct a 'good man' would not stand by and do nothing.


 

scottm4211

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I think it's more a case that everything today is reported/filmed. To believe that everything now is bad and everything back then was good isn't the way I choose to go through life.
Enjoy your Saturday :waves:
 

layoutshooter

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I think it's more a case that everything today is reported/filmed. To believe that everything now is bad and everything back then was good isn't the way I choose to go through life.
Enjoy your Saturday :waves:

No, I don't believe everything 'back then' was good and now everything is bad. It has been a long time going down hill.

I will enjoy tomorrow, going hunting.

That does NOT change the fact that those who did nothing are scum.
 

clcooper

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Well you don't seem to look around much. See the issue has been discussed a lot of times before and things like this is more common than one would think. From cases going back to the mid-19th century to Kitty Genovese to the toddler in china and now an old man getting ignored. The vet thing has nothing to do with it other than sensationize the news.

Start with looking up Kitty Genovese and see what I mean.

I wish people would step up, but even with the lady who was knocked down at Aldi's month ago or so, not one person stepped up and do anything to help her. I can pm you with an idea who was standing near her and could has stopped it.

do you think this is why people didnt help Kitty Genovese . she was a lesbian,
 

layoutshooter

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This thread was not about the man in question being a vet, or another being a lesbian, it was about rotten people doing nothing.
 
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