Rick santorum - where he stands

Pilgrim

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Since Rick Santorum has come from nowhere to a photo finish with Romney in the IA caucuses, it might be useful to see where he stands on the issues.

Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum is a social conservative and a defense hawk running to be the Republican nominee for president in a race largely defined by the domestic economy. Here is a review of some of his key policy positions.


Abortion
Santorum has campaigned for support from social conservatives by emphasizing his opposition to abortion. He supports a blanket ban on abortion without exceptions for rape or incest, he has said in public statements.
“I believe that life begins at conception and that life should be guaranteed under the Constitution,” Santorum said when asked about such exceptions during a June appearance on NBC’s Meet the Press. Santorum also said he would support criminal prosecution of physicians who perform abortions.
During his failed reelection campaign against Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa., in 2006, Santorum expressed support for allowing abortions in cases of rape and incest or to protect the life of the mother.
In another Meet the Press appearance Sunday, Santorum explained that he supported compromise positions on abortion in hopes of moving the country toward a fuller ban. “Today I would support laws that would provide for those exceptions; but I’m not for them,” he said.


Gay Marriage
Santorum opposes gay marriage and supports amending the Constitution to impose a federal ban on gay marriages. He has argued passage of such an amendment would invalidate existing gay marriages.
Santorum famously stirred controversy in 2003 with his comments outlining his opposition to the Supreme Court overturning a Texas sodomy law in Lawrence v. Texas. The court later overruled the law.
"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything," Santorum told the Associated Press.
"In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be,” he said.


Budget
Santorum has called for a series of broad, nonspecific steps to cut federal spending. On his campaign website, he calls for cutting $5 trillion of federal spending within five years. He also calls for reducing all federal nondefense discretionary spending to 2008 levels through across the board spending cuts. He proposes freezing defense spending at current levels.
Santorum supports passage of a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution capping government spending at 18 percent of gross domestic product. He would extend a pay freeze for nondefense related federal employees for four years; cut the federal workforce by 10 percent; and slash benefits for federal workers, according to his website.
Santorum also call for a series of specific cuts to programs unpopular with conservatives. Among them are cuts for Environmental Protection Agency funding and the elimination of federal funding for Planned Parenthood (he favors directing half of this funding to support adoption instead). Santorum also calls for ending energy subsidies and “most agriculture subsidies” within four years.


Earmarks
Santorum sought earmarks while in Congress, a position other candidates have attacked. On Sunday's Meet the Press, Santorum defended doing so by noting that federal spending has since increased. “When I left Congress, budgets began to explode,” he said.
Earmarks have never accounted for a significant portion of the federal budget, and an increase in federal spending was underway before Santorum left Congress in 2007. Santorum on Sunday continued to defend earmarking, arguing that, “there is a legitimate role for Congress to allocate resources.”


Taxes
Under what he calls the “Santorum solution,” Santorum said he would replace current income tax brackets with two rates: 10 percent and 28 percent.
In addition his plan, summarized from his campaign website, would:
• End the alternative minimum tax and estate tax
• Reduce capital-gains taxes to 12 percent, and triple the personal deduction for each child
• Eliminate a cap on deductions for losses incurred in the sale of a principal residence
• Cut the corporate income tax rate in half, from 35 to 17.5 percent
• Increase a research and development tax credit from 14 to 20 percent
• Eliminate the corporate income tax for manufacturers
• End taxes on repatriated corporate income invested for manufacturing equipment and a corporate tax on other repatriated income invested in the U.S.


Federal Courts
Santorum on his campaign website says if elected he would “call on Congress to abolish the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.” Conservatives view the court as excessively liberal and activist.


Deregulation
Santorum’s campaign website states that as president he would “roll back job killing regulations, restrain our spending by living within our means, and unleash our domestic manufacturing and energy potential.”
Santorum supports repeal of the Dodd-Frank financial regulatory reform bill of 2010. He has attributed the financial crash of 2008 in part to excessive government intervention in markets, specifically the government-sponsored enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Santorum has called for eliminating both entities within five years.


Entitlements
Santorum has said he supports a proposal by House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., to eventually turn Medicare into a voucher-based system where seniors would not receive coverage for healthcare services above the voucher’s value.
Santorum calls for changing the formula for adjusting Social Security benefits, raising the retirement age for younger workers and shifting Medicaid to a block grant system.


Health Care
Santorum opposed Democrats’ 2010 health care overhaul. He says he would “repeal and replace Obamacare with market-based health care innovation.”
Santorum's health care policy, as outlined on his website, includes options touted by many Republicans, such as medical liability reform and allowing the purchase of health insurance across state lines. He calls for strengthening “patient-driven health coverage options,” such as health care savings accounts.


Islam
Santorum in March of 2010 told Bates College students that Islam is stuck in the seventh century and that people who try to modernize Islam “get killed.” When pressed on these remarks during a May debate, Santorum insisted he’s not “anti-Islam,” but recognizes the “reality” that the spreading “version of Islam” practiced in the Middle East “is not going to be one that we can deal with very easily.”


Iran
Santorum often cites his eight years on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and legislative efforts related to foreign policy, highlighting especially his aggressive stance on Iran.
On Meet the Press, Santorum said that as president he would OK bombing of suspected Iranian nuclear facilities if Iranian leaders did not agree to dismantle their suspected weapons program or allow international inspectors to review the facilities.
Santorum also said his administration “would be very open” about efforts, even covert ones, to slow or stop Iran’s program. Like most other GOP presidential hopefuls, Santorum argues the Obama administration’s reliance on sanctions to pressure the Iranian regime is inadequate.
In a CNBC blog post this fall, Santorum argued that the U.S. must work with Israel to determine the "proper military response" needed. "If that includes targeted airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, then I am prepared to authorize that action," he wrote.
“I would work with Israel to eliminate the Iranian nuclear threat immediately and put provisions in place to assist any pro-democracy uprising in Iran,” he wrote.


Syria
Santorum has said he wouldn’t suggest sending U.S. troops into Syria, where Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is cracking down on his own people. Instead, he advocated for working “vehemently and vigilantly with the people in Syria” and going after the strongman “covertly or otherwise.” This, he said, would show the Iranians that “we are going to stand up to them.”


Iraq
Like many other GOP hopefuls who have criticized Obama for pulling out virtually all U.S. troops from Iraq, Santorum said he’s “not for taking [U.S. troops] out of the region.” The administration needs “to listen to our generals—and our generals are being very, very clear that we need to continue to stabilize Iraq,” he said. “The Iraqi government wants and needs our intelligence in particular, needs force protection."


Afghanistan
Santorum has generally criticized Obama’s plan to withdraw surge troops from Afghanistan, objecting to the administration setting limits on time and resources in the war effort.


Pakistan
Santorum said the U.S. has to step up its engagement with Pakistan and pressure the country to identify militants in its lawless border areas. “We have tolerated a lot of bad behavior on the part of Pakistan, particularly in the area of Waziristan, and we have not done what President [George W.] Bush did originally, which said you are either with us or you were against us,” he said in a May debate. The U.S., Santorum said, needs to issue an ultimatum to Islamabad: Side with the U.S., or not receive American aid.


Libya
Santorum has blasted his GOP rivals’ “very isolationist view” of U.S. engagement when it comes to Libya. “We could have been a source for good from the very get-go in Libya, but this president was indecisive and confused from the very beginning,” Santorum said in a June debate. “He only went along with the Libyan mission because the United Nations told him to, which is something that Ronald Reagan would have melted like the Old Wicked Witch of the West before he would have allowed that to happen.”
However, amid division within the U.N. Security Council, the U.S. pushed for a resolution that went even beyond establishing a no-fly zone, introducing a resolution authorizing members to deploy all necessary actions.


China
In one of the noted foreign-policy gaffes in the debates, Santorum told rival Mitt Romney in October he doesn’t want to go to a trade war with China. Instead, he said, “I want to beat China. I want to go to war with China and make America the most attractive place in the world to do business."


Israel
Santorum, like many other GOP contenders, slammed Obama for “turning his back on Israel” and “complaining about settlements in Jerusalem, the capital of the country.” During an appearance on C-SPAN, he called for the U.S. to stand by Israel “especially at a time when it increasingly appears to be standing alone.” Referencing the Arab Spring, Santorum said the “recent dislocation of the old order in the Middle East will usher in a new one and anti-Israel elements are working overtime all across the world to take advantage of this opportunity.”


United Nations
Santorum says he has been a longtime advocate of defunding the United Nations “because evidence shows the organization to be corrupt.”


Defense Cuts
Santorum has criticized Obama for advocating defense cuts over the next decade. In April, Santorum said reductions to the military budget send the “wrong signal, wrong effort at the wrong time,” arguing that “now is not only the time to be increasing our military preparedness but to finish the task of comprehensive missile defense systems. Nothing is more helpful [to negotiations] toward peace, as Ronald Reagan showed, as overwhelming strength and defense.”


Candidate Guide: Where Does Rick Santorum Stand? - National Journal Staff - NationalJournal.com
And from Santorum's website:

Where I Stand | Rick Santorum for President

And no, I'm not becoming a cheerleader for Rick Santorum. It's just that very few people (including myself) are familiar with his record and his political positions.
 

greg334

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Apart from his running to religious groups that don't represent the country, there are two things that bother me about this guy as it bothered me about Bachmann -

1 - Federal Courts
Santorum on his campaign website says if elected he would “call on Congress to abolish the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.” Conservatives view the court as excessively liberal and activist.


To me this is a problem when a president speaks of removing or abolishing a court because some "conservative" group doesn't like the outcomes of the decisions. No way in hell should we have a president who thinks in terms that there is a modification needed to our legal system to ensure outcomes that pass some requirement of a group who has had a part in running the country into the ground.

2 -
Islam
Santorum in March of 2010 told Bates College students that Islam is stuck in the seventh century and that people who try to modernize Islam “get killed.” When pressed on these remarks during a May debate, Santorum insisted he’s not “anti-Islam,” but recognizes the “reality” that the spreading “version of Islam” practiced in the Middle East “is not going to be one that we can deal with very easily.”


To me this is an assault on a religion and speaks volumes of the man and his idea of what God is. I don't want a president who looks at any specific religion and pass judgment on it unless there is a reason for it. Getting passed the right wing religious nut cases and their hatred for Islam, it seems that we as a country need not to look at the religion but the individuals who perpetrate crimes and worry about them. His ignorance comes through by making a blanket statement about the religion of which many many people who have been of the modern movement are still with us on earth and not fearing for their lives.

Sorry Pilgrim, I see Santorum as the same problem we have on the left and in the republican party. We need someone who steps out of the need to kiss a specific religious ring and be a leader of a country grounded in the freedoms. We won't get that with Santorum or Romney, they are just the same.
 

RLENT

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Where he stands ?

.... somewhere to the right (or left ? ... or both ?) of Il Duce ?

People who talk about others living in prior centuries would do well, to thoroughly examine Senator Santorum's public record and statements. To that extent, the following website may be of use (as opposed to the highly partisan neocon rag, National Review):

Santorum Exposed

Particularly interesting is this video where Santorum claims that the "pursuit of happiness" is harming America:

Santorum: pursuit of happiness harms America
 
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layoutshooter

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I guess that a site called "Santorumexposed" is not biased. Or it could be a Santorum based porn site. :p
 

davekc

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Where he stands ?

.... somewhere to the right (or left ? ... or both ?) of Il Duce ?

People who talk about others living in prior centuries would do well, to thoroughly examine Senator Santorum's public record and statements. To that extent, the following website may be of use (as opposed to the highly partisan neocon rag, National Review):

Santorum Exposed

Particularly interesting is this video where Santorum claims that the "pursuit of happiness" is harming America:

Santorum: pursuit of happiness harms America

Might want to look at that source a little closer. Seems to be a little more than agenda driven.
Lantern Project Contributors | OpenSecrets
 

RLENT

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Might want to look at that source a little closer.
I'd prefer to look at Mr. Santorum a little closer :D

Seems to be a little more than agenda driven.
Huh ? :confused:

I'd say it's quite highly agenda driven ;)

Wonder if there will be any evidence of a Santorum "Iowa Bounce" when they re-poll this one - so far there doesn't seem to be much "Santorum Surge" showing up:

............................................ No. Polled .. Percent
Michele Bachmann .......................... 11 .......... 2%
Newt Gingrich ............................... 46 .......... 9%
Jon Huntsman ............................... 37 .......... 7%
Fred Karger .................................. 3 .......... 1%
Ron Paul ..................................... 71 .......... 14%
Rick Perry .................................... 7 ........... 1%
Buddy Roemer ............................... 5 ........... 1%
Mitt Romney ................................ 213 .......... 43%
Rick Santorum .............................. 29 ........... 6%
Undecided (DO NOT READ) ................ 78 .......... 16%

Looks like there might be at least 18% to 20% available for the taking. Most troubling are Huntsman's numbers - given he's been working the area, and Santorum hasn't.

7News/Suffolk University of NH Poll - 01/04/12
 
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Pilgrim

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Originally Posted by RLENT:
Santorum: pursuit of happiness harms America - YouTube

Might want to look at that source a little closer. Seems to be a little more than agenda driven.
Lantern Project Contributors | OpenSecrets

Agenda driven, also biased - especially when considering the link to the "Night Beat" clip above that one. Anyone who would equate "pursuit of happiness" with "I have a right to do whatever I want" is nothing more than a self-absorbed ignoramus that has no understanding of the Bill of Rights or the Constitution of the United States. Even the title of the clip is completely inappropriate and misleading. This attitude shows a fundamental lack of understanding individual rights, and that one person's inalienable rights end where another's begin. That's the point that Santorum is making - we don't have the right to do ANYTHING we feel like and call it pursuit of happiness.
 

RLENT

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And some people call Dr. Ron Paul "crazy" or "loony" .... :rolleyes:

Given who Santorum runs with (the Pro-Lifers for Death™), it's not entirely surprising he has a particularly itchy trigger finger, and seems all too willing to push the button.

There may be no 72 virgins on the menu here, but it essentially goes to the same place:

Video: Rapture Ready: The Christians United for Israel Tour

(and yes - make no mistake - there clearly is an agenda here)
 
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witness23

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And some people call Dr. Ron Paul "crazy" or "loony" .... :rolleyes:

EXACTLY!!!!

The difference between Paul and Santorum is that Paul actually lives and votes with his principles intact where Santorum, well....not so much. Look at Santorum's record.

I just don't get it. I hear what the Tea Partiers are saying, what the Conservatives are saying, what the Fiscal Conservatives are saying and what the Neo-Cons are saying and Dr. Paul is echoing everything that they are asking for. The only thing he does not line up with, is his foreign policy and that is mostly a Neo-Con concern. Please, please, someone tell me why the Republicans are not getting behind this guy?

If you are a Republican and you support and or vote for anyone other than Paul, you are a hypocrite! He's giving you 90% of what you are looking for. Anyone other than Mr. Paul in this field of candidates will do nothing different than what's been going on for the last 30 years or possibly longer.

I just don't get it?
 

davekc

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Couldn't see myself voting for Santorum. His agenda is just too much of getting into peoples business, which the government should be staying out of to begin with.
May play in Iowa, but it won't fly on a national stage.
 

greg334

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Not to change the subject but why is there an assumption that the tea party people backed Bachmann and "her" votes will go for some she endorses while the tea party founder has come out and said Paul is her guy?
 

RLENT

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Looks like Santorum got his bounce in the Zogby poll - up about 8 points over last week. The good news is Dr. Paul is polling at 24% ..... and John Z sez that both still have room to grow (10% undecided)

zogby-nhprimaryv2-445.jpg

Santorum gets big bounce in N.H.
 

davekc

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Not to change the subject but why is there an assumption that the tea party people backed Bachmann and "her" votes will go for some she endorses while the tea party founder has come out and said Paul is her guy?

Don't know. Didn't know there was that assumption.
 

layoutshooter

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Looks like Santorum got his bounce in the Zogby poll - up about 8 points over last week. The good news is Dr. Paul is polling at 24% ..... and John Z sez that both still have room to grow (10% undecided)

zogby-nhprimaryv2-445.jpg

Santorum gets big bounce in N.H.

Why is it that few, if any, of these polls ever have a "none of the above" category?

Has anyone in here ever been polled? I have. I lied. I thought it better to mess with them as much as I could.
 

greg334

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Don't know. Didn't know there was that assumption.

There has been a bunch of talk about if she endorses someone will her tea party voters follow her lead and vote for that candidate. The tea party people I've talked to seem to run away from Bachman as much as hold Romney in contempt because of their stance on a few issues.
 

Pilgrim

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Couldn't see myself voting for Santorum. His agenda is just too much of getting into peoples business, which the government should be staying out of to begin with.
Just curious, after looking at Santorum a little bit - what makes you think he advocates govt. intrusion?
 

RLENT

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Has anyone in here ever been polled? I have.
Yes, I have ...... was one of the major polling companies (Gallup or Nielsen I think) ..... was not on presidential candidates, but it was a political poll (on economics)

It was a long poll (15 to 30 minutes to complete)

Wow ....

I thought it better to mess with them as much as I could.
Well, I'm sure you won't mind us having a little fun with you then .... ;)
 
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