Rick Perry will reportedly ‘make clear’ he’s running for president on Saturday

[Camper]

Everyone makes mistakes and some even admit it. The dipstick that's rulling now has made none, (just ask him). I think Perry is strong and I think he can beat the dipstick. Anyway whoever is nominated needs to have strong backing by America to get us out of the mess we're in now.

Yes, everyone makes mistakes. However, certain mistakes do negate one's credibility more than others. In Perry's case, The gardisil executive order kills any Libertarian credibility he ever had.

 

[Pilgrim]

From the perspective of the Left, 10 reasons you may or may not want Perry to run - depending on your perspective.

(1) PERRY ALLOWED THE EXECUTION OF A LIKELY INNOCENT MAN, THEN IMPEDED AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE MATTER

(2) PERRY WANTS TO REPEAL THE 16th AND 17th AMENDMENTS, ENDING DIRECT ELECTION OF U.S. SENATORS AND THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX

(3) PERRY PROPOSED LETTING STATES DROP OUT OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICAID

(4) TEXAS IS THE COUNTRY’S BIGGEST POLLUTER, BUT PERRY SUED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR DISAPPROVING OF THE STATE’S AIR QUALITY STANDARDS

(5) PERRY DESIGNATED AS “EMERGENCY LEGISLATION” A BILL REQUIRING ALL WOMEN SEEKING ABORTIONS TO HAVE SONOGRAMS FIRST

(6) PERRY GUTTED CHILDCARE SERVICES EVEN AS TEXAS CHILDHOOD POVERTY HIT 25 PERCENT

(7) PERRY WAS A STRONG SUPPORTER OF TEXAS’S ANTI-SODOMY LAWS:

(8) PERRY IS A STIMULUS HYPOCRITE WHO LOUDLY CRITICIZED FEDERAL RECOVERY MONEY BUT USED IT TO BALANCE HIS STATE’S BUDGET

(9) PERRY SAID THAT TEXAS MIGHT HAVE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES

(10) DESPITE HAVING THE WORST UNINSURED RATE IN THE COUNTRY, PERRY CLAIMS THAT TEXAS HAS “THE BEST HEALTH CARE IN THE COUNTRY”

Top 10 Things Texas Gov. Rick Perry Doesn

Be sure to read the explanations of each of these reasons in the link. From a conservative point of view, these could easily be reasons ENCOURAGING a vote for Perry. Take #4 for instance: imagine a governor filing suit against the Obama EPA to challenge their unreasonable, job-stifling clean air regulations, especially during a recession. Also - he's a "Global Warming Denier"

Perry probably scares the panties off the liberal Democrats in the Obama camp because he seems to be a pull-no-punches campaigner that has a foundation of core beliefs that he believes in and sticks to - as opposed to Obama's most recent GOP candidate, an ineffective moderate that looks for ways to "compromise" to get things done (which really means "cave to Democrat demands). Obama would have a tough time dealing with anyone who comes straight at him, armed with the facts relating to a record of positive results and pointing out the failures of the Obama administration that have put the country where it is today.

 

[Camper]

Re: Rick Perry will reportedly ‘make clear’ he’s running for president on Saturday

From the perspective of the Left, 10 reasons you may or may not want Perry to run - depending on your perspective.

(1) PERRY ALLOWED THE EXECUTION OF A LIKELY INNOCENT MAN, THEN IMPEDED AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE MATTER

(2) PERRY WANTS TO REPEAL THE 16th AND 17th AMENDMENTS, ENDING DIRECT ELECTION OF U.S. SENATORS AND THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX

(3) PERRY PROPOSED LETTING STATES DROP OUT OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICAID

(4) TEXAS IS THE COUNTRY’S BIGGEST POLLUTER, BUT PERRY SUED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR DISAPPROVING OF THE STATE’S AIR QUALITY STANDARDS

(5) PERRY DESIGNATED AS “EMERGENCY LEGISLATION” A BILL REQUIRING ALL WOMEN SEEKING ABORTIONS TO HAVE SONOGRAMS FIRST

(6) PERRY GUTTED CHILDCARE SERVICES EVEN AS TEXAS CHILDHOOD POVERTY HIT 25 PERCENT

(7) PERRY WAS A STRONG SUPPORTER OF TEXAS’S ANTI-SODOMY LAWS:

(8) PERRY IS A STIMULUS HYPOCRITE WHO LOUDLY CRITICIZED FEDERAL RECOVERY MONEY BUT USED IT TO BALANCE HIS STATE’S BUDGET

(9) PERRY SAID THAT TEXAS MIGHT HAVE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES

(10) DESPITE HAVING THE WORST UNINSURED RATE IN THE COUNTRY, PERRY CLAIMS THAT TEXAS HAS “THE BEST HEALTH CARE IN THE COUNTRY”

Top 10 Things Texas Gov. Rick Perry Doesn

Items #2, #3,#4, #6, and #9 would be a good basis for a third party/Tea Party type platform. The social conservative stances like the anti-sodomy laws are nothing but an albatross to the party.

 

[Pilgrim]

The reason I'm interested in the Perry candidacy is that so far he seems to be the type of candidate who would run on conservative principles and present a candidacy that would delineate the differences between Republicans and Democrats, himself and Obama in BOLD COLORS rather than pale pastels. Remember who else did that in their campaign? The last Republican who crushed a pitifully inept Democrat sitting president that had pushed the country into an economic mess and international humiliation. Now, more than ever before, we need a candidate that will stand and deliver that kind of campaign to the American people.

"Whether it is different this time than it has ever been before, I believe the Republican Party has a platform that is a banner of bold, unmistakable colors, with no pastel shades.
We have just heard a call to arms based on that platform, and a call to us to really be successful in communicating and reveal to the American people the difference between this platform and the platform of the opposing party, which is nothing but a revamp and a reissue and a running of a late, late show of the thing that we have been hearing from them for the last 40 years."

- Ronald Reagan, 1976 Republican Convention

 

[copdsux]

Mandatory Gardasil in Texas: Perry’s motives are a bit Merck-y | The eDrugSearch Blog

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Yes, we know Copsdux, big evil Republicans are in the pocket of big business. At least that part is obvious. Meanwhile, Democrats curse and criticize the very companies they hold stock in. Ladies and gentlemen... the show is about to begin!

 

[EASYTRADER]

Rick Perry is another Fascist Republican, so if you want a rehash of another fake christian fascist like Bush then go ahead and support Perry.

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[EASYTRADER]

As for repealing the popular election of Senators Perry is right on that. The House was mant to represent the People and the Senate was meant to represent the States. The growth of federal power can be linked to the loss of the states having any say in federal affairs.

Having said that Rick Perry would never actually back a bill like that, anyone who would force gardacil on teenagers isn't exactly a paragon of liberty.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

As for repealing the popular election of Senators Perry is right on that. The House was mant to represent the People and the Senate was meant to represent the States. The growth of federal power can be linked to the loss of the states having any say in federal affairs.

Having said that Rick Perry would never actually back a bill like that, anyone who would force gardacil on teenagers isn't exactly a paragon of liberty.

If he was wanting to do something about that, why didn't he call a constitutional convention and bring it up? He talked the big talk when Obama was trying to get O-care shoved down our throats. But what did he do? Like I said... all hat, no cattle.

I think I'll support Cain.

 

[greg334]

No he won't, because he's the anti-Obama. The evangelicals love him and the conservative base will rally around him because he'll probably turn out to be their best alternative.

Well that's the problem, a lot of people don't want to have a president who is going to kiss the ring of any religion, regardless what religion that is and a lot of the independents are turned off by the idea that a president has to have a moral connection to the religious right.

Don't think for a minute that this giant prayer rally wasn't carefully orchestrated and timed to be a springboard for his candidacy. Also, don't underestimate the voting power of the evangelicals - their numbers are HUGE.

Huge or not, they won't carry the election and never have - the indepedents do. This is the one issue many are telling the republicans flat out why not to go through the primary process but to pick one guy and run with them, the pandering to different groups makes the candidate and the rnc look like they really don't have platform to work with other than anyone other than Obama.

Just for the record, I don't agree with a lot of the evangelicals' positions and mixing religion with politics makes me very uncomfortable; watching some of the clips of Perry's prayer circus made me think of Pat Robertson. [/qyuote]

I don't agree with most of it myself, not because I am void of religion but because they want to do in general the same thing that the left wants to do, control behavior through the government. Many are comparible to Wright (Obama's god/man) with their rhetoric and need to right wrongs that they see have to be done through the government.

After watching those videos I also caught some of the speech by Obama yesterday blaming his economic failures on Bush, acts of God, the dog that ate his homework and everybody else but himself and his party. After he finished the Dow dropped another 200 points.

Well I will say this again, the stock market matters less in our lives than we give it credit for. If the Dow slips 2200 points, that means little because it is the Dow, not the entire market and if the entire market slips 40%, it is nothing but an indicator of emotional panic of the market - which by the way is what we had in the last few days. Outside of people who have investments, the rest of the country is looking for jobs and an improvement in the economy. The idea that was created for the bailout of wall street was false - when wall street does well, so does the economy. BUT that's not true, wall street and the stock market is not about jobs and never was. The same holds true in 1929, the country didn't instantly take a downward turn overnight, it took 3 years and a lot of bad policies to do that.

The truth about Obama is becoming clearer every day and his record gets worse by the hour. Compare that picture of failure and incompetence with Perry's record in TX and the choice couldn't be more clear.

Well I guess this will hurt ... it took you guys that long to learn what Obama's record shows?

Seriously?

Where have you been?

The truth should have hit all of you like in 2008, not 2011.

His failures were limited because of the congress, I have to point out not because of a republican congress either but because of democrats within the congress.

Don't believe this garbage in the MSM about his invincability; the general public is becoming more aware of his lousy record, and the hardcore liberals are just as fed up with him as the conservatives, but for different reasons. Obama is a loser, pure and simple.

I believe those in the RNC who say it is going to be a hard sell to the American people not to reelection him while at the same time looking at what they are saying and who actually votes. When Democrat strategists take a stand along side many republican strategist and say 'obama will be hard to beat' at the same time repeating over and over that the republicans need to step up, pick someone and run with them instead of having a repeat of the McCain crap of 2008, they seem to be right in their thinking.

 

[copdsux]

Don't think for a minute that this giant prayer rally wasn't carefully orchestrated and timed to be a springboard for his candidacy. Also, don't underestimate the voting power of the evangelicals - their numbers are HUGE.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people, in large numbers.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Never underestimate the power of stupid people, in large numbers.

Tell me about it! Around here, we call it Detroit!

I wouldn't call evangelicals stupid, tho. They have blinders on for sure. They, like the Right to Choicers, will hold steadfast to that issue being the only one for them. So does that mean the Right to Choicers are stupid too? What reasoning are you using to claim evangelicals are stupid? I'm curious.

 

[Camper]

If he was wanting to do something about that, why didn't he call a constitutional convention and bring it up? He talked the big talk when Obama was trying to get O-care shoved down our throats. But what did he do? Like I said... all hat, no cattle.

I think I'll support Cain.

That's another case in point for the need for a third party. As good as Cain is, he doesn't have a shot at the nomination because the party is controlled by the establishment elites who are behind Romney, Perry and Bachman.



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[Tennesseahawk]

That's another case in point for the need for a third party. As good as Cain is, he doesn't have a shot at the nomination because the party is controlled by the establishment elites who are behind Romney, Perry and Bachman.

And that is why I won't vote for the establishment Republican, come election day. Doing so doesn't necessarily get the lesser of two evils in. And it gives the establishment reason to keep things as they are.

I am NOT A REPUBLICAN! I would like to become one, tho... when they finally come home. But until then, I owe them nada.

 

[greg334]

I am NOT A REPUBLICAN! I would like to become one, tho... when they finally come home. But until then, I owe them nada.

What happens if the democrats actually turn their party around and become a conservative party while the republicans become the "party of the people" and more liberal?

 

[Camper]

What happens if the democrats actually turn their party around and become a conservative party while the republicans become the "party of the people" and more liberal?

I don't see that happening for two reasons:

a). The party is too beholden to the establishment wing which is Liberal to moderate and many special interests groups which tend to hail from the far left.

b). Most, if not all the conservative Democrats tend to be from the deep South or the great plain region. Many of them got voted out of office merely because they had a (D) next to their name in the last election. Bobby Bright of Alabama is a classic example. He was arguably the most conservative democrat in the house. He was every bit as conservative as the republican who defeated him. Moral of the story: Conservative democrats are far and few between.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

What happens if the democrats actually turn their party around and become a conservative party while the republicans become the "party of the people" and more liberal?

What happens if a clown becomes president? Crap... we already have that.

 

[Pilgrim]

Well that's the problem, a lot of people don't want to have a president who is going to kiss the ring of any religion, regardless what religion that is and a lot of the independents are turned off by the idea that a president has to have a moral connection to the religious right.

The voters will have to make a choice - four more years of Obama's socialism and disastrous economic policies or take a chance on an openly religious conservative president that will be working with at least one side (but probably both) of Congress that has a Republican majority.

Huge or not, they won't carry the election and never have - the indepedents do. This is the one issue many are telling the republicans flat out why not to go through the primary process but to pick one guy and run with them, the pandering to different groups makes the candidate and the rnc look like they really don't have platform to work with other than anyone other than Obama.

Both parties MUST go through the primary process to pick a candidate - even if one has a sitting president who has no opposition. Both parties pander to different groups such as evangelicals, unions, Hispanics, homosexuals - that's political reality.

Well I will say this again, the stock market matters less in our lives than we give it credit for. If the Dow slips 2200 points, that means little because it is the Dow, not the entire market and if the entire market slips 40%, it is nothing but an indicator of emotional panic of the market - which by the way is what we had in the last few days. Outside of people who have investments, the rest of the country is looking for jobs and an improvement in the economy. The idea that was created for the bailout of wall street was false - when wall street does well, so does the economy. BUT that's not true, wall street and the stock market is not about jobs and never was. The same holds true in 1929, the country didn't instantly take a downward turn overnight, it took 3 years and a lot of bad policies to do that.

The activity of the Market matters a lot more now that it did in 1929, and it's influence is global in nature. If it drops 40% we'll have a Bad Depression on our hands, and it will happen in a matter of weeks, not years. Companies can not lose that amount of capital worth without serious repercussions.

Well I guess this will hurt ... it took you guys that long to learn what Obama's record shows?
The truth should have hit all of you like in 2008, not 2011.
His failures were limited because of the congress, I have to point out not because of a republican congress either but because of democrats within the congress.

There were a lot of people that were aware of Obama's record (what there was of it) that clearly established him as the most liberal member of the congress - moreso than Kucinich, Clinton or Kennedy. However, the MSM ignored not only this record, but the fact that he had no accomplishments or experience whatsoever. What's more, there were a lot of ignorant voters that didn't care - they were more concerned with the wrapping than the contents of the package.

I believe those in the RNC who say it is going to be a hard sell to the American people not to reelection him while at the same time looking at what they are saying and who actually votes. When Democrat strategists take a stand along side many republican strategist and say 'obama will be hard to beat' at the same time repeating over and over that the republicans need to step up, pick someone and run with them instead of having a repeat of the McCain crap of 2008, they seem to be right in their thinking.

Those in the RNC to whom you refer are mostly the Rockefeller Republicans - the ones who were responsible for McCain getting the nomination in '08. Of course the Democrats will make the ridiculous claim that he's unbeatable - what else are they going to say (in public anyway). Any other president with Obama's record would be regarded as unelectable and would be under intense pressure from his party to withdraw from the race - just as LBJ did and Carter should have done. The right candidate will defeat Obama in a landslide, with even a reasonably decent campaign.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Well the market is up again today over 300 points...must be a lot of profit taking going on...Gold is down...

 

[paullud]

Well the market is up again today over 300 points...must be a lot of profit taking going on...Gold is down...

There are some people that can't think beyond right now that sold and lost a lot of money, I also think there are a lot of people that see long term and just became millionaires.

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