Pro Death

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
How do you know what I do??
I don't and I don't have the slightest idea why you even asked this question!

Ones doesn't toot there horn on there charitable givings .they just do it and say NOTHING
You pressed me with the adoption question and I felt I needed to qualify my answer.

So now you want me dead?? Nice...and I'm the ahole

I never said I wanted you dead. You are the self-proclaimed realist with real concerns about overpopulation. I'm trying to help you in your quest to reduce the world's population. I'm just offering pro-choice means other than abortion.
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
In an abortion, the innocent one is always murdered...

Then open your wallet and house to all these extra kids if you abolish abortion...put your $$ where your mouth is...how big is your house?? ..everybody wants to scream and yell about abortion... but want to do 0.0 ..
"I have raised my kids".." I'm not raising someone else's kids"...well guess what...there here now because you said no to abortion ...so take em in...love em..hug em..feed em..you wanted em...
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
How many you adopting?? how much $$ you giving to help these children??

I am not killing anything...but I am a realist ..and understand this world is way overpopulated..and hundred and hundred of thousands of UNWANTED children are born ...responsible people would be best...but that's not going to happen...all these people who scream about abortion....are the ones not wanting to do anything to help..IE adopting..donating...open your house up for some of these kids who need homes..

Yes it does!!!!! STERN RULES!! HOW MANY KIDS YOU ADOPTING??. These kids need hugs..food..a roof over there head...you helping or just going to complain..lot of gay couples would adopt..but all the religious wackos stonewalled that ..

Yes reality sucks. .. reality is there is not enough resources to take care of these kids..again personal responsibility is best..but that is not going to happen..
So how many kids you adopting??

Read back..I have been saying personal responsibility is best..
So what are we to do as a society with all these kids people have
And refuse to take care of...if your against abortion...better start adopting..these kids need hugs

How many can you take in???

There seems to be a theme of adopting but the one thing missing is how many you are adopting or sponsoring or otherwise helping. As it is, it seems like you just enjoy arguing for the murder of innocent babies as almost a hobby.

Yeah, love and hugs are great and it would be great if everyone got them but many don't and still turn out fine and live good lives. Somehow "let's murder them because they may not get enough hugs." just doesn't sound so good.
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
There seems to be a theme of adopting but the one thing missing is how many you are adopting or sponsoring or otherwise helping. As it is, it seems like you just enjoy arguing for the murder of innocent babies as almost a hobby.

Yeah, love and hugs are great and it would be great if everyone got them but many don't and still turn out fine and live good lives. Somehow "let's murder them because they may not get enough hugs." just doesn't sound so good.

How many you adopting??...open your wallet..give give give...
 
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asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
Think of all the kids are unwanted in this world now....and its a crisis .... think of how many more there would be if it was not for abortion..
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
The hypocrisy of the 'pro life' position is the exceptions that are already made - killing another person is allowed in self defense, war, and capital punishment. So it becomes a question of which circumstances are acceptable. The arguments against abortion boil down to morality, and IMO, forcing a woman to continue an unwanted pregnancy and bear an unwanted child is immoral. It's also against the best interests of her, the child, and society as a whole.
It's all well and good to insist we hold people responsible for their behavior, but responsible women have discovered that neither they, nor any birth control in existence is infallible - pregnancy happens despite the efforts to prevent it. Don't even try the "just say no to sex" argument, because that's not even remotely reasonable, for consenting adults. And the fly in the ointment is that it's the "innocent babies" [funny how the emotional imagery is so important] who will suffer the consequences of being born to parent who didn't want, or couldn't afford them.
Adoption is a lovely thought, but it's as unrealistic as 'just say no'. Once a woman carries a pregnancy to term and gives birth, it really is a baby, and guilt, hormones, and various other pressures combine to persuade her that she wants to keep her child. She has no money, spouse, or family support, but reason doesn't enter into it at that point - it's an adorable baby, and it's hers, and she's going to keep it. [Have a nice life, kid!]

Nobody likes abortion, or thinks it an acceptable method of birth control, but banning it didn't work out too well, either, if you recall. There's no reason to believe that banning it again will result in any different outcomes, is there?
The only sane approach is to minimize the need for it, with comprehensive education and accessible birth control options.
Which many abortion opponents are doing their very best to eliminate, BTW.

 

garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
The best option for the reduction in the amount of murdered, unwanted, unloved, and under supported babies in this world is people taking responsibility for their own lives, and living an unselfish life. The kind offered by our creator. Not Howard Stern...
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
I did not wanted to pot this on the Internet, because i did not asked for permission, but hopefully none of you will track this story for it's originate.
nevertheless, it is true, and is happening right now.
there's a family i know from deep south. i know them for about 2 years. they are a real nice peoples, & i stayed in their place twice.
they are very religious Catholics and our conversations many times roams toward faith.
obviously for them an abortion is not an option
they never had much money to spear, and lived a very moderate life. daddy is a local trucker, but genetic illness of one of the kids kept mommy home for the past 30 years or so.
a simple screening now-days can prevent such child from been born
they have a few kids, and the youngest one just joined the air-force.
@ the age of 18 this was her ticket toward a collage education.
to say the least she is very bright!, she have everything a parent would like in a child.
after joining into the air-force, she was selected to the airman academy. on her way to becomes an air-force pilot.
only a few weeks into the training, some peoples in the very competitive airman academy, still think a women should not compete to becomes an air-force pilot.
say it as you like, this is still and is happening here in America.
knowing that she never had an ounce of alcohol in here blood, they simply secretly drugged her one evening. then intoxicated her was an easy go. and in no time the poor little girl had no control over her body.
then came the gang-rape of an virgin.
she is now pregnant.
kicked out of the air-force.
with no financial future in sight. none.
poor li'l girl cam home to church, and told her story. Air-force investigation came back empty. our air-force is plying defense.
no-one will ever know who the father is, and the military prevent any information from coming out.
the ONLY rezone this baby will be born, is to prevent his mommy from becoming a pilot.
the family is broke, there is no financial future to support this kid.
it is, and probably always will be an unwanted child.
Just one more rezone to support my long standing opinion of allowing/promoting abortion.
it's not a murder, this is not a human-been. it's a choice!. & it is sad that church is preventing this young women & her family from making that choice. what could've/should've been a simple run to the clinic, and you can go on & become a pilot the next round of training,
will instead become life long struggle, living a miserable life for everyone involved.
anyone would like to adopted a half nice baby ?
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
The best option for the reduction in the amount of murdered, unwanted, unloved, and under supported babies in this world is people taking responsibility for their own lives, and living an unselfish life. The kind offered by our creator. Not Howard Stern...

Why is Howard bad...he is honest..what he talks about sex...eeewww.. ..he is not up to any funny business...its all YOUR preachers and religious leaders didling the kids...NOT Howard...watch your own...there the problem...


AGAIN HOW MANY YOU ADOPTING???
 
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asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
I did not wanted to pot this on the Internet, because i did not asked for permission, but hopefully none of you will track this story for it's originate.
nevertheless, it is true, and is happening right now.
there's a family i know from deep south. i know them for about 2 years. they are a real nice peoples, & i stayed in their place twice.
they are very religious Catholics and our conversations many times roams toward faith.
obviously for them an abortion is not an option
they never had much money to spear, and lived a very moderate life. daddy is a local trucker, but genetic illness of one of the kids kept mommy home for the past 30 years or so.
a simple screening now-days can prevent such child from been born
they have a few kids, and the youngest one just joined the air-force.
@ the age of 18 this was her ticket toward a collage education.
to say the least she is very bright!, she have everything a parent would like in a child.
after joining into the air-force, she was selected to the airman academy. on her way to becomes an air-force pilot.
only a few weeks into the training, some peoples in the very competitive airman academy, still think a women should not compete to becomes an air-force pilot.
say it as you like, this is still and is happening here in America.
knowing that she never had an ounce of alcohol in here blood, they simply secretly drugged her one evening. then intoxicated her was an easy go. and in no time the poor little girl had no control over her body.
then came the gang-rape of an virgin.
she is now pregnant.
kicked out of the air-force.
with no financial future in sight. none.
poor li'l girl cam home to church, and told her story. Air-force investigation came back empty. our air-force is plying defense.
no-one will ever know who the father is, and the military prevent any information from coming out.
the ONLY rezone this baby will be born, is to prevent his mommy from becoming a pilot.
the family is broke, there is no financial future to support this kid.
it is, and probably always will be an unwanted child.
Just one more rezone to support my long standing opinion of allowing/promoting abortion.
it's not a murder, this is not a human-been. it's a choice!. & it is sad that church is preventing this young women & her family from making that choice. what could've/should've been a simple run to the clinic, and you can go on & become a pilot the next round of training,
will instead become life long struggle, living a miserable life for everyone involved.
anyone would like to adopted a half nice baby ?

Good story..happens all the time..women are shamed into having these kids...don't shame them....THANK THEM being responsible ..
 

garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
So by your thinking we would be better off just killing every child being raised by parents who can't afford them, crack *****s, or on welfare.

I am doing what I can to combat this problem. How many I have adopted is none of your business. How much I give to charities that support adoption and caring for these babies even before they are born in again none of your business. But I can tell you that killing an innocent baby is not the solution, and if you think it is, you need to take a real good look at where you moral identity comes from. Since you are a follower of the disgusting pig Howard Stern, I have a good idea where your moral compass is.

What is happening in this world is not a surprise. It has all been written about and the prophesies continue to come true. This world will continue to fall into moral degradation, and it will only stop when Jesus returns. But until then, we get to choose what side we will be on. I choose to be on the side of good. You choose to favor the killing of innocent babies as opposed to fighting it. What side are you on then?

I have said my peace, and I am done. I always regret getting involved in the soapbox section on this site, and this time is no different. I continue to learn that some people are closed minded to the things of God. They are very happy to align themselves with and fall for the lies of Satan. There is nothing I can say to change that, and all I do is make myself look like the fool. So be it. This world is so very sad...
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
It's not 'a story'. i care about that family very much. i met daddy @ a shipper. 3 weeks later my load took me to the same place, so i called him up. i was to sleep at the shipper lot. he would not hear of it. 'over my cold dead buddy you will sleep in a truck 4 mils from my house'. it turned out to be by far the best 'southern hospitality' i ever experienced. it is just sad that people out of the immediate family are making the decision for them.
 

aquitted

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I did not wanted to pot this on the Internet, because i did not asked for permission, but hopefully none of you will track this story for it's originate.
nevertheless, it is true, and is happening right now.
there's a family i know from deep south. i know them for about 2 years. they are a real nice peoples, & i stayed in their place twice.
they are very religious Catholics and our conversations many times roams toward faith.
obviously for them an abortion is not an option
they never had much money to spear, and lived a very moderate life. daddy is a local trucker, but genetic illness of one of the kids kept mommy home for the past 30 years or so.
a simple screening now-days can prevent such child from been born
they have a few kids, and the youngest one just joined the air-force.
@ the age of 18 this was her ticket toward a collage education.
to say the least she is very bright!, she have everything a parent would like in a child.
after joining into the air-force, she was selected to the airman academy. on her way to becomes an air-force pilot.
only a few weeks into the training, some peoples in the very competitive airman academy, still think a women should not compete to becomes an air-force pilot.
say it as you like, this is still and is happening here in America.
knowing that she never had an ounce of alcohol in here blood, they simply secretly drugged her one evening. then intoxicated her was an easy go. and in no time the poor little girl had no control over her body.
then came the gang-rape of an virgin.
she is now pregnant.
kicked out of the air-force.
with no financial future in sight. none.
poor li'l girl cam home to church, and told her story. Air-force investigation came back empty. our air-force is plying defense.
no-one will ever know who the father is, and the military prevent any information from coming out.
the ONLY rezone this baby will be born, is to prevent his mommy from becoming a pilot.
the family is broke, there is no financial future to support this kid.
it is, and probably always will be an unwanted child.
Just one more rezone to support my long standing opinion of allowing/promoting abortion.
it's not a murder, this is not a human-been. it's a choice!. & it is sad that church is preventing this young women & her family from making that choice. what could've/should've been a simple run to the clinic, and you can go on & become a pilot the next round of training,
will instead become life long struggle, living a miserable life for everyone involved.
anyone would like to adopted a half nice baby ?

Moose did your parents have any kids that lived?
 

asjssl

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
So by your thinking we would be better off just killing every child being raised by parents who can't afford them, crack *****s, or on welfare.

I am doing what I can to combat this problem. How many I have adopted is none of your business. How much I give to charities that support adoption and caring for these babies even before they are born in again none of your business. But I can tell you that killing an innocent baby is not the solution, and if you think it is, you need to take a real good look at where you moral identity comes from. Since you are a follower of the disgusting pig Howard Stern, I have a good idea where your moral compass is.

What is happening in this world is not a surprise. It has all been written about and the prophesies continue to come true. This world will continue to fall into moral degradation, and it will only stop when Jesus returns. But until then, we get to choose what side we will be on. I choose to be on the side of good. You choose to favor the killing of innocent babies as opposed to fighting it. What side are you on then?

I have said my peace, and I am done. I always regret getting involved in the soapbox section on this site, and this time is no different. I continue to learn that some people are closed minded to the things of God. They are very happy to align themselves with and fall for the lies of Satan. There is nothing I can say to change that, and all I do is make myself look like the fool. So be it. This world is so very sad...

What about us who don't believe in god...were still good people...just because we don't believe there is a man in the sky...doesn't make us bad ..your no better than anyone else..you don't have to associate with a religion to be a good person..as all the religions would like you to believe..
 
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cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Moose did your parents have any kids that lived?



Did yours have any who managed to grow up?

This is an adult conversation, and you've just shown yourself to be incapable of participating.
BTW: I've met Moose - he is one of the most intelligent, thoughtful, and considerate people I know. We are lucky to have him in America and on EO.

 
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