President Obama makes Marine break protocol.. and hold an umbrella over him?

[layoutshooter]

Yes very true but I was refering to him. Just say'n.

Yep, but it makes no difference, white chocolate or dark chocolate. Scum is scum.

ANY able bodied or able minded person who willingly accepts the control of a socialist is no different than a woman looking for a "sugar daddy" or a man looking for a "sugar momma". Weak, lazy and morally corrupt.

 

[aristotle]

Definitely not US military personnel. Wrong salute, wrong uniforms and wrong umbrella. US military carry black umbrellas only when in uniform.

 

[layoutshooter]

Definitely not US military personnel. Wrong salute, wrong uniforms and wrong umbrella. US military carry black umbrellas only when in uniform.

I never carried an umbrella, in or out of uniform. REAL MEN LIKE TO GET WET WHEN IT RAINS!! LOL!! Looked like Brits or Aussies to me. Not sure.

 

[21cExp]

As far as instances of other presidents getting their umbrellas held by Marines, post it, or it didn't happen.

US Armed Services Officer holding an umbrella for Nixon. . .


- US Armed Services personnel (Green Beret?) holding umbrella for Pres George H W Bush
- US Armed Services personnel (Green Beret?) holding umbrella for Pres George W Bush

 

[letzrockexpress]

I see a Marine with TREMENDOUS self control.

When a president abuses their power in this manner it just goes a long way to show how they really feel about those who they rule over. It shows that they no longer feel that they work for the People.

Talk about pushing Title 10 past it's intent.

No, it says he doesn't know the rules. A bonehead move but that's all it is...

 

[letzrockexpress]

It's called Black Socialist agenda. I'll bet this is pulled.

What is the definition of "Black Socialist Agenda" and how does it differ from "White Socialist Agenda?

 

[layoutshooter]

No, it says he doesn't know the rules. A bonehead move but that's all it is...

There are only TWO choices here. Obama is an idiot who does not know the "rules", in which case he has no business being president or CIC. The ONLY other choice is that he is a total elitist who has little to no respect for the People, who he believes that he rules, in which case he has no business being president or CIC. He has been in office for more than four years. IF he does not know the "rules" by now he never will.

It is NOT a matter of "rules". It is a manner of treating a marine with respect instead of as a slave.

It does not matter if it is Obama, or any other president, when you take on the job of CIC the military, and those who serve in it, are not your "toys" to play with. Commanding the military is a grave responsibility. It should not be treated lightly. Using a serving member of the armed forces as a "personal valet" shows massive disrespect for not only the individual but the military in general.

More proof that Obama is NOT a leader, just a boss. Bosses NEVER get the best out of their people. It shows.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I respect a Marine/serviceperson no more then I would a police officer, firefighter or any other first responder....anyone that would endanger their life to save mine...The it is the quality of the person NOT the uniform that is a measure of a man.

 

[layoutshooter]

I respect a Marine/serviceperson no more then I would a police officer, firefighter or any other first responder....anyone that would endanger their life to save mine...The it is the quality of the person NOT the uniform that is a measure of a man.

You are not the CIC, Obama is. You do not control the lives of those in the military, Obama does. I doubt that you would chose to use a marine as a "personal valet", Obama did.

Obama has no direct control of any firefighters, except those in the military. He should have no control over any police officers, except those in the military or any other first responders.

It is not the uniform, as such, it is the disrespect for the individual that is the greater problem.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

US Armed Services Officer holding an umbrella for Nixon. . .
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- US Armed Services personnel (Green Beret?) holding umbrella for Pres George H W Bush
- US Armed Services personnel (Green Beret?) holding umbrella for Pres George W Bush
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Army. And Army. We're talking Marines here.

 

[layoutshooter]

It makes no difference whether they were marines, army, navy, air force or coast guard. It makes no difference which president it is. It is condescending behavior. It is demeaning and disrespectful.

High elected office is no excuse for this kind of action. I contend that that one who aspires to high office should be of higher caliber. Too bad it is not the cream that is rising to the top in this country.

 

[Maverick]

You are not the CIC, Obama is. You do not control the lives of those in the military, Obama does. I doubt that you would chose to use a marine as a "personal valet", Obama did.

Obama has no direct control of any firefighters, except those in the military. He should have no control over any police officers, except those in the military or any other first responders.

It is not the uniform, as such, it is the disrespect for the individual that is the greater problem.

Hey Shooter......correct me if I'm wrong, but doe not the CIC ONLY apply during legally declared war as in a declaration of Congress? I seem to recall when I was in, the CIC only applied (in accordance with the constitution) upon official declaration.....and have we had one of those for the last 60 years?

I guess we might have some kind of new deal whereby this guy (or Bush, or Carter, or to anyone else) can just assume the CIC position without the declaration?

 

[Turtle]

Article 2 Section 2 of the US Constitution: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States."

Later legislation expanded the Army and Navy to that of all Armed Services.

The Commander-in-Chief Clause of the Constitution guarantees that the President is empowered to act as the "first general" over America's fighting forces. In so doing, the Framers both provided for American civilian control over the U.S. military, and designated a single commander ultimately responsible for the deployment of these forces.

Whether in time of declared war or not, the President is the CIC of all armed forces in the service of the United States. The Constitution and the War Powers Act limits and defines how the President can use those forces.

 

[usafk9]

I once saw two Marines guarding a Xerox copier. Would that be an appropriate use of their skills/training?

 

[layoutshooter]

I once saw two Marines guarding a Xerox copier. Would that be an appropriate use of their skills/training?

It would depend on why they were guarding that copier. It is not a question that can be answered without more information.

 

[usafk9]

It was an asset.

 

[Maverick]

Thanks for that reply Turtle. I know others dispute what "is, is" and others are crying foul because according to past interpretations (by some) this power only came under declaration. Me? I consider it just part of The Big Show, either way.

 

[layoutshooter]

It was an asset.

Was it a "special" copier? Was it in a classified area? Was it only used for "certain" tasks? I don't know, I can't answer it without more information. For all I know they were assigned to guard that copier as punishment. We often had guards on certain rooms. Sometimes we had guards on individual pieces of equipment if they were out of the secure area they should have been in.

 

[iceroadtrucker]

Notice Obama did not use a black Marine, just saying,,,,

Thats true oh but to bad so sad the World Bank Has pulled away from China Which means for some that Dealings with China are in the toilet so to speak and are ready to get flushed.
kinda funny. Id hate to have bought all those new planes in hopes of making deals with the china only to have them all go south. Hmmm interesing isnt it. I hope this finds you well in TN as Memphis that another story isnt it.
I tip my hat to ya
sorry for the This Rant
Double Tap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5s4x-GflKio

 

[usafk9]

Was it a "special" copier? Was it in a classified area? Was it only used for "certain" tasks? I don't know, I can't answer it without more information. For all I know they were assigned to guard that copier as punishment. We often had guards on certain rooms. Sometimes we had guards on individual pieces of equipment if they were out of the secure area they should have been in.

Special copier or not, who cares? These Marines are elite fighting and killing machines. How dare someone have them stand guard in front of this hunk of metal?

My point is this: I find it hilarious that folks (veteran, active duty, or civilian) think they have the knowledge of what a specific military specialty's duties include, when those folks criticizing have never served in that capacity.

Who are any of you (OP included) to say what that Marine's duties include?