Political Correctness in Mexifornia

[layoutshooter]

That is true - there is, in fact, only ONE race ..... the human race ...


This is actually false - we have one of the lowest population densities on the planet (particularly in the west) - lower on average than Europe - and far, far lower than some other parts of the world.

BTW, we aren't fully "settled" - settlement is an ongoing process, which occurs all the time.

That is your OPINION, mine and many other peoples are different.

I believe we have a DUTY to protect and allow for wildlife habitat. I believe that we need to protect farmland. I don't care if the rest of the world is overrun, no need for it to happen here.

I would not want to live in a world without deer, ducks, rabbits and lots and lots of fish. We are too crowed now. IF we would reuse the wasteland in our cities we could fit a few more.

We know better, we have done better than most of the world and we need to continue to do even better than we have been.

You can believe what ever you want. Just packing in people in every inch works as good as using my money to pay others bills. Pretty soon I run out of money too!! (like next week)

You are right, there IS only one race, the rest we talk about is just stupid.

 

[greg334]

I heard a good one Layout,

We are only crowded in places people feel we shouldn't be in the first place.

Look around, there is a lot of space left here. If we need more, we can just declare war on Canada and take it over (just kidding).

Seriously the problem isn't space it is how the space is used. We don't have high density cities and we overdevelop in some areas but the absolute truth is that nature is here to stay and what ever we do, we can't destroy anything that nature can't fix.

 

[layoutshooter]

I heard a good one Layout,

We are only crowded in places people feel we shouldn't be in the first place.

Look around, there is a lot of space left here. If we need more, we can just declare war on Canada and take it over (just kidding).

Seriously the problem isn't space it is how the space is used. We don't have high density cities and we overdevelop in some areas but the absolute truth is that nature is here to stay and what ever we do, we can't destroy anything that nature can't fix.

You are correct. SE MI is a prime example. We have destroyed in excess of 99% of our wetlands in this area, more than 50% state wide. That is not as bad as Ohio which has destroyed over 90% of their wetlands. California has lost almost 99%.

We tear up farms to build malls while untold amounts of land sit wasted and unused in our cities.

We CAN fix these problems. It will not be easy. We MUST retain private land ownership rights. The first step is we must WANT to fix it. Allowing millions to just pour across the border is NOT going to help.

 

[greg334]

Layout, the point is Nature fixes herself and Man can't destroy anything when you come down to it.

OVM, the people who are fighting for this seem to do it for more than the reasons they give, most of it has to do with power over an enslaved group of people. They have forced the country to allow building and protecting a sub-class of people who for what ever reason seem to be tagged as those who will do jobs Americans won't.

If you take a trip to Dubai, you will see exactly that - there are jobs an UAE citizen won't do for any reason and they depend on imported help from other countries. It isn't the case here, just the opposite - when you have over 500 people trying to get jobs in a place where ICE came in and cleaned up leaving 300 openings, there isn't a job an American can't, won't or incapable of doing.

 

[layoutshooter]

"Layout, the point is Nature fixes herself and Man can't destroy anything when you come down to it."

True, but she cannot do it as long as we continue to stop her from doing her magic. I would just like to see some REAL progress while I am alive. Far more than the 4500 acres at Pointe Mouillie or the 500 at Humbug Marsh. I want to see 10's of thousands returned to what they should be. Let's start with Belle Ilse!!

 

[greg334]

Layout,

Man can not destroy the earth, we can not alter the weather or shape the planet to fit our needs. We can mess up an eco system and then nature will reclaim it. If you know anything about Maine or the upper, you know that it was stripped of its trees and mined. Maine 100 years ago was a wasteland, even TR was appalled by the shear 'destruction' that took place but the last time I was there, they seem to have a thriving wildlife population. The same goes for the upper where logging and mining levels hundreds of thousands of acres. Where my grandparents lived was a large tract of houses for miles but now it is all wilderness with deer, bear and all kinds of things to shoot and eat.

OVM, they still can send money back to their home country but the issue it does do is open the door for social services like welfare. A lot of them will still work under the table, won't pay taxes and so on.

 

[layoutshooter]

"Man can not destroy the earth, we can not alter the weather or shape the planet to fit our needs. We can mess up an eco system and then nature will reclaim it. If you know anything about Maine or the upper, you know that it was stripped of its trees and mined. Maine 100 years ago was a wasteland, even TR was appalled by the shear 'destruction' that took place but the last time I was there, they seem to have a thriving wildlife population. The same goes for the upper where logging and mining levels hundreds of thousands of acres. Where my grandparents lived was a large tract of houses for miles but now it is all wilderness with deer, bear and all kinds of things to shoot and eat"

Yep, all true. It can't happen unless we let it. The only thing stopping more farm land around here from being developed is the bad housing market.

Cutting trees does not make a wasteland. It creates NEW GROWTH, which is FAR more productive than old growth forests, which are called "climax forests" the end of their useful lives. They USE more oxygen than they produce.

No point in my arguing. Nothing will be done around here, other than a couple of small projects, in my life time. I will never see the clouds of birds that used to migrate through here. I will never see the Huron or Raisin so choked with walleye that you could see their eyes shinning under that light of an oil lamp. My problem is that I was born too late. A man out of time.

 

[layoutshooter]

LOS said

boy you got that part right....*LOL*
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Yeah, but it is not funny my friend, it is sad. I don't like living in this time. I don't fit. I never will, I don't want to. I long for skies full of birds, clean waters, fish everywhere and the FREEDOM to enjoy them. I shall never have any of that.

 

[Slo-Ride]

Yeah, but it is not funny my friend, it is sad. I don't like living in this time. I don't fit. I never will, I don't want to. I long for skies full of birds, clean waters, fish everywhere and the FREEDOM to enjoy them. I shall never have any of that.

Sure ya can Layout just head to Texas and pay to hunt with the T.Nugent,,,His world is still Rosey

 

[layoutshooter]

Sure ya can Layout just head to Texas and pay to hunt with the T.Nugent,,,His world is still Rosey

The "Nuge" don't hunt the way I do. I like water, Texas is hurting for water. I will just have to take what I can get here. No need to pay mega bucks there.

 

[greg334]

Upper Ontario or Alaska or if you really want to live the hunting life, Russia.

 

[layoutshooter]

Upper Ontario or Alaska or if you really want to live the hunting life, Russia.

Not Ontario, talk about restrictions, no freedom there at all. Russia? You have got to be kidding, like jumping into the fire from the frying pan. Alaska? Maybe. It is a real shame that I just can't have what should be here. It is just amazing how bad it has become in the last 40 years. We should be ashamed.

 

[Slo-Ride]

The "Nuge" don't hunt the way I do. I like water, Texas is hurting for water. I will just have to take what I can get here. No need to pay mega bucks there.

Ive seen him and his buddys hunt,,right out of the feed lots,Not a preety sight.But what ever its his money. A whole lot of hunters dont hunt like him.

Would Love to get into ON. Greg but the Queen has issues with me.

 

[layoutshooter]

Ive seen him and his buddys hunt,,right out of the feed lots,Not a preety sight.But what ever its his money. A whole lot of hunters dont hunt like him.

I would rather hunt ducks. I would not pay to hunt deer. The "nuge" has a "way" about him!!

 

[greg334]

Would Love to get into ON. Greg but the Queen has issues with me.

I think the Queen has issues with all of us.

Layout, yes Russia.

AND yes Ontario.

Try it before discounting it.

 

[layoutshooter]

I think the Queen has issues with all of us.

Layout, yes Russia.

AND yes Ontario.

Try it before discounting it.

I am well aware of the laws in Ontario. I quit hunting there over 40 years ago. My kind of hunting is SO restricted that it is not worth the effort. I REFUSE to register my shotgun to hunt there. I WON'T call the bridge to get permission to anchor my boats. It is bad enough that we get harassed in U.S. waters by Canadian cutters. Ontario? NO WAY!! Sorry to all our Canadian members, nothing personal, it is your government I have little use for, not you. I won't even go into the inequalities between U.S. and Canadian duck limits. Why is it that they can kill ducks, we can't and WE pay the freight bills.

Russian hunting is good, for now. It is degrading. They have NO environmental savvy at all. The cost is silly high. Besides, I am not looking for a trip here and there, once in a while. I want a real life, where I live, as it should be. I would NEVER live there. Too many Obama types.

Maybe Alaska someday, not while my Dad is still alive. I know someone that has a hunting business up there. I might go to work for him in the years to come. Might have to move there anyway, to get away from what might happen here if things keep heading the way they are.

 

[Slo-Ride]

Might have to move there anyway, to get away from what might happen here if things keep heading the way they are.

Why? We are just going to follow ya. You ain't getting away from nothing. Properly be driven up there on busses driven by Hispanic drivers.




(Before ya say anything on my Hispanic comment I want ya to know I lived with em,,dined with em,,Got to know their children & their children's children very well,Loved em like family) 1 of my best memory's coming out of Texas while stationed threre.
Wait maybe it was His tequila.

 

[cheri1122]

Yeah, but it is not funny my friend, it is sad. I don't like living in this time. I don't fit. I never will, I don't want to. I long for skies full of birds, clean waters, fish everywhere and the FREEDOM to enjoy them. I shall never have any of that.

You mean the freedom to kill them, right?
Just kidding [sort of] - I know that hunting is a reasonable way to control overpopulation, thus helping nature do its' job. And I admire your commitment to preservation - man CAN destroy the Earth, and will, if unchecked.
Just as unchecked immigration can destroy America, and will do so if we don't stop it.

 

[greg334]

You know outside of all out nuke war, I can't see where man can destroy the earth. We can damage areas of the earth but not the entire earth.

Today the UN published some sort of news report about the three factors killing the earth and made it look like if we don't stop living, there will be nothing left - BS.

The fact that nature has destroyed the surface of the earth before and will again seems to be left out of everything. Forget the idea that when those big and small reptiles roamed the earth, there wasn't a lot of the duckies or the beavers or the cows around until these reptiles died off. To be exact the duckies, beavers and cows are nothing like we have today, maybe we don't get that part at all.

Nature has a way to replace things, she has ways of dealing with things when it becomes bad.

So what if a species dies off, I mean if we caused it, then we are at fault because of our selfishness but then we have caused our own problems.

What floors me is this idea we are not part of nature, not part of the eco-system at large. It is just like elephants in the Serengeti who destroy acres of trees - they are part of the eco-system just as man is.

Where man has damaged habitats, like Australia, due to introducing problem animals, then that is our fault to a point. How did animals get there in the first place?

Well back to the UN report, it says that we - MAN - are the cause of the rain forest to be destroyed. Yep man has done that not because we are greedy and look at the rain forest as something that needs to be out of our way but rather because we have spread our (the US) way of life to another part of the world and they are benefiting by their independence to produce their own food and sell the surplus to other places, like the US. No one has forced these counties to do this but the people want to live better lives.

 

[Turtle]

What floors me is this idea we are not part of nature, not part of the eco-system at large.

If you admit we are part of nature, then you have to admit that man is an animal, and we just can't have any of that nonsense.

Man doesn't have much of a chance to destroy the Earth. The Earth got a long just fine before were got here, and will do just fine long after we're gone. If we get too uppity with the Earth, well, that's what ice ages and super volcanoes are for.