Pit bulls rip arms off a 74 yo veteran

layoutshooter

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"Christian humor is an oxymoron".... also a joke.

One of the funniest jokes I've ever heard in my life was told to me by a priest in Montpelier, VT. It's a joke that cannot be posted here. :D

Of course I knew that that statement was a joke. It had to be since Christians are neither oxen or morons, for the most part anyway!

People are people. Their religions are only one aspect of their lives. For some it is all consuming, for most it is not. There are as many beliefs about how we came about in the spectrum of Christian religions as there are different Christian "religions".
 

Turtle

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There are as many beliefs about how we came about in the spectrum of Christian religions as there are different Christian "religions".
You'd think God of all people could have been a little more clear about some of the issues he was talking about. If he had been, we'd likely only have one religion since people, you know, take The Word of God as like, you know, gospel. :D

Man is the only animal that has the True Religion - several of them. ~ Mark Twain

The Bible says the earth is flat and sitting on pillars and cannot move. Some people actually believe that.

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layoutshooter

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You'd think God of all people could have been a little more clear about some of the issues he was talking about. If he had been, we'd likely only have one religion since people, you know, take The Word of God as like, you know, gospel. :D

Man is the only animal that has the True Religion - several of them. ~ Mark Twain

The Bible says the earth is flat and sitting on pillars and cannot move. Some people actually believe that.

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Many people believe many things, many believe nothing. Ignorance is not a "religious" issue, it is a "human" issue.

It was kinda hard for God to be clear about things, few people listen to him anyway!
 

Turtle

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Newp. Science causes religion to alter some of the details, but unfortunately, it's some of those details that many people think are the most important.
 

Tennesseahawk

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I see the same arguments are being made here, as in the replies of the article. All I can say is this... German Shepherds in the 60s, Doberman in the 70s, and Rotts in the 90s... all have had the same bad wrap. There were cries to do away with the breed. Now I know ANY dog can snap, and go after someone. I see it happens more often with the "dog of the day". To me, that smells of bad breeding. The PBT of today is NOT the same as Petey of the Little Rascals. People, for various reasons, have bred the calm out of the dog, and left the violent tendencies in. Responsible breeders, IMO, are far outnumbered by the "thug" breeders whose intentions are to keep the breed vicious. Also IMO, if we did away with this breed, thugs and thug breeders would move to another breed... perhaps back to Rotts.

Having said that, one thing that rings true is that if you see a pit (or any other large dog, for that matter) running loose, there is no way to tell by looking at it if it is a thug-bred pit. Therefore, it's easier (AND MORE COMMON-SENSICAL) to assume it is a bad-bred and owned dog, and stay far away from it. Maybe it is ridiculous to say exterminate the breed. But how do you regulate that much power going into the hands of thugs? Basically all you can do is make the breed so unattractive with penalties... insurance, responsibility if the dog attacks, etc. But again, you're penalizing the responsible owners. Personally, I wouldn't want to be associated with a breed that is so out of whack in the last 30 years due to breeding tendencies.

But that also brings back the fact that thugs will move on to other breeds if this one becomes "unfashionable". So it's not the pit bull I've become afraid of... but what it's come to represent... the thug mentality. I've always been afraid of that, because it poisons everything it touches, including what would be a perfectly good breed otherwise. I'm afraid of the thug, the thug's children, the thug's driving, the thug's dogs, and the thug's mentality in the possibility that it may poison my kids one day. You can legislate the eradication of the breed; but you'll never succeed in outlawing thug mentality.
 

Ragman

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Just do away with all pits.

Cherry pits.:rolleyes:
Mellon pits.:rolleyes:
Peach pits.:rolleyes:
Arm pits. :eek:
 

greg334

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Yeah but T-Hawk, it isn't the legit and good breeder who have their $1100 dogs running around the streets but those which are inbreed in basements and garages who are beaten to be mean and unpredictable.

I too have to ask too "... why is it important to the story and the headline to point out that the guy's a veteran? Would it be less of a tragedy if the guy was a pacifist?"
 

Dakota

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Yeah but T-Hawk, it isn't the legit and good breeder who have their $1100 dogs running around the streets but those which are inbreed in basements and garages who are beaten to be mean and unpredictable.

I too have to ask too "... why is it important to the story and the headline to point out that the guy's a veteran? Would it be less of a tragedy if the guy was a pacifist?"

because it makes for good story,
like the SUV that caused the accident:rolleyes:
 

Tennesseahawk

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Yeah but T-Hawk, it isn't the legit and good breeder who have their $1100 dogs running around the streets but those which are inbreed in basements and garages who are beaten to be mean and unpredictable.

I too have to ask too "... why is it important to the story and the headline to point out that the guy's a veteran? Would it be less of a tragedy if the guy was a pacifist?"

I think the author of the story wanted to create outrage. What better way than to say the victim was a veteran? But very simply, here we have someone who survived Vietnam (I'm guessing here), only to have his life "mangled" by two dogs. It's a shame regardless who the victim is... even moreso when it's a veteran. The dogs did what Charlie couldn't do.
 

layoutshooter

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I would think that if the guy was a vet you report it. If he was a pacifist, you report it. Seems to me it was what happened. Are we going to ignore a vet's status if something bad happens just because they are vets? Seems kind of a strange idea. It is no different than any other supporting information in a story.
 

greg334

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But layout, I understand if it is used for sensationalism but no matter what the circumstances are, it is really irrelevant to the story - old man gets mauled by dog, arm ripped off is just as dramatic but a bit boring.
 

layoutshooter

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But layout, I understand if it is used for sensationalism but no matter what the circumstances are, it is really irrelevant to the story - old man gets mauled by dog, arm ripped off is just as dramatic but a bit boring.

Yes he was an old man. He was also, just as much, an old vet. He is what he is. If it is a FACT then it is relevent.
 
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