Pit bulls rip arms off a 74 yo veteran

Dakota

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It makes a better story Vet gets mauled vs. old man get mauled
it is irrelevant, but the headline is what sells a story
 

Turtle

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Yes he was an old man. He was also, just as much, an old vet. He is what he is. If it is a FACT then it is relevent.
I dunno, but I bet there are a million facts about him that are wholly irrelevant. What if he's a cross-dresser? Is that relevant? :D
 

Moot

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What if he's a cross-dresser? Is that relevant? :D
If he hadn't been wearing that sleeveless, angel blue, twist silk chiffon dress the damage to his arm may have been less severe. But it did go rather nice with the open toe white pumps. Very summery!
 

AMonger

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Yes he was an old man. He was also, just as much, an old vet. He is what he is. If it is a FACT then it is relevent.
Look, I know you love veterans more than most people, but it's just absolutely not relevant. Would it be normal for a headline to read "Left-handed Asian plumber with flat feet mauled by pit bull?"

Not every fact is relevant.
 

AMonger

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Because many creationists (the fundamentalists, primarily, the ones who think The Creation Museum in northern KY is absolutely factual) will dismiss any and all scientific fact that doesn't fit well with their beliefs, and will, in fact, prefer to not even learn about such nonsense as Evolution in any form. I have a good friend who is like that. I once asked him if he has read a particular book about science, and he said the only book he ever reads in the Bible, because everything he needs to know about everything is in there. He prefers to remain ignorant about anything that might contradict his beliefs, and he's proud of that fact.

But mainly is was humor. I had hoped that the humor was clear enough. Obviously, I was wrong and my delivery was flawed.

Then again, I also know that "Christian humor" is an oxymoron. :D
Well, I've never been to that place in Kentucky, so I couldn't comment. And as someone who is considering that Genesis might not even be INTENDED to be a creation account, I'd hold off on saying, regardless.

No, the Bible is not a science book and isn't intended to be so,.yet everything that it DOES say about science is correct. And yes, your friend should read a science book.

As for joking about religion, it's a lot like telling jokes about people's mothers. Can't be surprised at any response you get, and can't particularly blame the responder, as long as he's not violent or trying to force you to shut up.
 

layoutshooter

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Look, I know you love veterans more than most people, but it's just absolutely not relevant. Would it be normal for a headline to read "Left-handed Asian plumber with flat feet mauled by pit bull?"

Not every fact is relevant.


Amazing. Another person who has never met me "KNOWS" who I "love" more than others. It is called "human interest". I bet if it was a woman teacher they would have said she was a "teacher" to garner more readers.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Amazing. Another person who has never met me "KNOWS" who I "love" more than others. It is called "human interest". I bet if it was a woman teacher they would have said she was a "teacher" to garner more readers.

Too bad it wasn't a DC politician...one less with their hand in my pocket...:p
 

Turtle

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The Bible said the earth is a sphere, long before any human knew it.
No, it said it was a circle. Big difference. The only way to get from a circle to a sphere is interpret several different versus by applying today's knowledge and understanding to ancient Scriptures. Granted, people do that sort of thing all the time to justify this or that, but a circle is not a sphere in Scripture anymore than it is in geometry, and the Bible knows the difference, because it uses both terms to mean different things. If you are going to interpret a circle to be a sphere, then you must also interpret the four corners to be either a square or a rectangle. Squares, rectangles and circles are all flat.

Incidentally, the Bible is just chocked full of scientific inaccuracies that are wholly incongruous with Divine intervention, not to mention insect anatomy.
 

aristotle

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No, it said it was a circle. Big difference. The only way to get from a circle to a sphere is interpret several different versus by applying today's knowledge and understanding to ancient Scriptures. Granted, people do that sort of thing all the time to justify this or that, but a circle is not a sphere in Scripture anymore than it is in geometry, and the Bible knows the difference, because it uses both terms to mean different things. If you are going to interpret a circle to be a sphere, then you must also interpret the four corners to be either a square or a rectangle. Squares, rectangles and circles are all flat.

Incidentally, the Bible is just chocked full of scientific inaccuracies that are wholly incongruous with Divine intervention, not to mention insect anatomy.

The New Iberia Big Bang is messing with your head. In a normal state of rest, I am certain you would have chosen to use "verses" not versus. Saw a brief mention of the New Iberia story on The Weather Channel this morning. Hopefully, all is well. Cheat death and leave the Grim Reaper cussin'.
 

Turtle

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Just a typo, I'm full of 'em. :)

I finally delivered at 1300 today. Amazingly, no one was injured in the explosions, not even those monkeys.

Uhm, OK, for those who do not know, the University of Louisiana has their primate research lab at the same site as the chemical plant, the site also including the airport. I want to make it crystal clear that "even those monkeys" are referring to the primates at the research lab, and not to any of the indigenous population in New Iberia. :eek:
 

Pilgrim

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Yet another victim - guess he wasn't a veteran. Maybe people just get desensitized after so many articles.
Police say Virginia man killed by his pit bull – Wed Jun 15, 9:06 am ET
SPOTSYLVANIA, Va. – Police say a Virginia man found dead in his home was killed by his pit bull.
The Spotsylvania County Sheriff's Department says in a news release that an autopsy found indications of paw marks on the victim's body and defensive wounds on the fingers and hands.
Police say the body of 38-year-old David Quyon Haigler was found Saturday in his home by his 18-year-old son.
Sheriff's Lt. Col. Michael Timm tells The Free-Lance Star that the 6-year-old pit bull was roaming free in the house. Another 6-year-old pit bull was chained in another area of the residence.
Timm says both dogs are being held at the county animal shelter.
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Information from: The Free Lance-Star, http://www.fredericksburg.com/

 

AMonger

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No, it said it was a circle. Big difference. The only way to get from a circle to a sphere is interpret several different versus by applying today's knowledge and understanding to ancient Scriptures. Granted, people do that sort of thing all the time to justify this or that, but a circle is not a sphere in Scripture anymore than it is in geometry, and the Bible knows the difference, because it uses both terms to mean different things.

Actually, not correct. The Hebrew word used in that passage can mean either sphere or circle. The interpreters, not knowing that the earth is a sphere, selected circle. That sort of translational choice that looks like an error happens more than once in scripture, such as the rabbit chewing its cud passage, which is where I thought you'd go.


If you are going to interpret a circle to be a sphere, then you must also interpret the four corners to be either a square or a rectangle. Squares, rectangles and circles are all flat.

In regards to the four corners reference, one must keep in mind that the Bible, in addition to being holy scripture, is also literature. Being literature, it makes frequent use of literary devices, including poetry, analogy, hyperbole, etc. and sometimes, the translators chose to retain idiomatic literary devices, trusting that the meaning would be understood.

I watched a show discussing translation work, and the hard decisions that must be made when deciding on clarity, idioms, poetry, etc. I read an article on the hard decisions that translators of opera have to make. I had never considered them before.

But since God knows the earth isn't flat, you can be sure the Bible doesn't say it. Now, what ignorant translators come along later and do, that's another issue.

Incidentally, the Bible is just chocked full of scientific inaccuracies that are wholly incongruous with Divine intervention, not to mention insect anatomy.

Ok, I was prepared to address the rabbit chewing the cud passage, but I have yet to hear this supposed error. Let's have it and address it.
 

Turtle

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Sorry, I had a reply all typed in, and just as I was finishing it up my computer locked up, froze solid. I don't have the energy to do all that again.
 
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