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layoutshooter

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please show us how to do it .so if the only jobs being offered are minimum wage jobs. show us how you can get a higher paying job . who are you sleeping with . remember the key words the only jobs being OFFERED ARE minimum wage jobs

so the United States Constitution means nothing then . for things to be fair and equal .

so we need more regulations . because regulations dont hold people back or make them a ward (slave) of the state.

i can see their mind contral is working . because nobody wants to stick togeather. like they did in the American Revolution


Our truck made well over 171,000 last year. Even after expenses we live quite well. Fat and happy. The ONLY fly in the pie is the oppressive taxes that inhibit our ability to truly get ahead.

There is NO SUCH THING as "fair and equal" Wait for that and you will always be broke.

It is the very idea of a "job" that is the problem. Jobs provide a living, working for one's self provides freedom. Keep in mind, industry is there to make money for the OWNER(s) of the industry. Jobs are a side bar to that. Those who are willing to take the risks of starting a business DESERVE to reap it's rewards.

The American Revolution was about getting rid of an oppressive government, not forming another. We fought that war so as NOT to be serfs of a king, now we are becoming "serfs of a government". There is NO difference between the two.
 

clcooper

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Our truck made well over 171,000 last year. Even after expenses we live quite well. Fat and happy. The ONLY fly in the pie is the oppressive taxes that inhibit our ability to truly get ahead.

There is NO SUCH THING as "fair and equal" Wait for that and you will always be broke.

It is the very idea of a "job" that is the problem. Jobs provide a living, working for one's self provides freedom. Keep in mind, industry is there to make money for the OWNER(s) of the industry. Jobs are a side bar to that. Those who are willing to take the risks of starting a business DESERVE to reap it's rewards.

The American Revolution was about getting rid of an oppressive government, not forming another. We fought that war so as NOT to be serfs of a king, now we are becoming "serfs of a government". There is NO difference between the two.

park your truck today and show us how you will make it .

you better read the .United States Constitution and arent you the one that says that you should be able to have the same guns as the army has . to me that sounds equal

and i do agree with you (and always have) we are becoming serfs of the government .
BUT WHY ARE WE . we are losing our freedoms .because people believe
"There is NO SUCH THING as "fair and equal""

and how was it back then was the king the only rich person .?? who was in contral back then . who did the king listen to .
 

layoutshooter

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park your truck today and show us how you will make it .

you better read the .United States Constitution and arent you the one that says that you should be able to have the same guns as the army has . to me that sounds equal

and i do agree with you (and always have) we are becoming serfs of the government .
BUT WHY ARE WE . we are losing our freedoms .because people believe
"There is NO SUCH THING as "fair and equal""

and how was it back then was the king the only rich person .?? who was in contral back then . who did the king listen to .


If forced to park this truck I WILL make it. I always have. I have been as broke as you can get, more than once. I may be again someday, AND, I WILL bounce back as I always do.

I may start ANOTHER business again. Just tried to buy one in September. It was already sold. I am ONLY 60, young, I will prevail. ONLY the government and their thieving ways will stop me. They STEAL from me to give it to others. That is just SO wrong. I work to support MY family. I am ENTITLED to what I earn, well, because I EARNED IT!

In face, I bet I could make as much mowing lawns and picking junk as I make in my truck, lower overhead too.
 

Ragman

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In fact, . . . and picking junk as I make in my truck, lower overhead too.

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layoutshooter

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GOOD ONE! Nothing wrong with earning an honest living.

There is also NOTHING wrong with wanting to keep the fruits of my hard labor. As it is I put almost $.40 out of every dollar I earn into taxes. That is just SO WRONG! Then, when you look at that idea that almost 40% of the people in this country pay NO taxes, it becomes obscene.
 

clcooper

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If forced to park this truck I WILL make it. I always have. I have been as broke as you can get, more than once. I may be again someday, AND, I WILL bounce back as I always do.

I may start ANOTHER business again. Just tried to buy one in September. It was already sold. I am ONLY 60, young, I will prevail. ONLY the government and their thieving ways will stop me. They STEAL from me to give it to others. That is just SO wrong. I work to support MY family. I am ENTITLED to what I earn, well, because I EARNED IT!

In face, I bet I could make as much mowing lawns and picking junk as I make in my truck, lower overhead too.

show us . park the truck . and do it . prove it or shut up . and if you do prove it . prove that 23 million other people will be able to do it too at the same time . do you think the supply and demand would be able to keep up . in my area there was about 10 guys hauling junk . now only 2 or 3 are . it is called supply and demand . those 10 guys picked the area clean . now what . those 10 are mowing the yards now . so where do you fit in

and as greg has said he had 15 workers at one time now he got a peacie of equipment and only needs 5 workers . and greg is only one company . where do those 10 workers go . to the nexy company that just got new eqpiment and laid off people also . so now not just 10 are out of work but 20 .

hey i know what they can all do resreach on a new car that doesnt use gas . . or the next best cell phone . or even start a trucking company .
do you think that the oil companies will be made . do you think the oil companies may pay the government to make laws so they cant reseach a car not to run on gas . what about the oil companies sending men to thier houses late at night .

cell phones they make the best cell phone now they need towers to reach out . i bet at&t will not charge to much . and the banks will just lend them money so they can build their own tower .

trucking companies are like wal marts on every corner now how many more .

supply and demand

i agree "ONLY the government and their thieving ways will stop me. I work to support MY family"
family is just like a business .
 

layoutshooter

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I don't have to PROVE anything and I won't shut up. I AM earning a living when I was often told that I could not. I HAVE been without work and either FOUND work or MADE it. I move to England to work. What ever it takes. Why should I have to PARK MY TRUCK? It is MY way of earning a living and I will continue to do so if I so choose. Then, and ONLY then, if I find it impossible to do this I WILL do something else. I always have.

I will NOT do it by looking for a job. I will MAKE my OWN work MY WAY! 23 million people are NOT MY concern. MY wife is my concern. I WILL support her and myself.
 

clcooper

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I don't have to PROVE anything and I won't shut up. I AM earning a living when I was often told that I could not. I HAVE been without work and either FOUND work or MADE it. I move to England to work. What ever it takes. Why should I have to PARK MY TRUCK? It is MY way of earning a living and I will continue to do so if I so choose. Then, and ONLY then, if I find it impossible to do this I WILL do something else. I always have.

I will NOT do it by looking for a job. I will MAKE my OWN work MY WAY! 23 million people are NOT MY concern. MY wife is my concern. I WILL support her and myself.

but you are the one that is saying he can do it that everybody else should be do it to .
like the driver that says he can make it from pa .to tx. in 15 hours .

thats right you are earning a liveing now . just like the 23 million were before they lost their jobs . it was THEIR way of earning a living too but they were forced to park their way of earning a liveings .

please tell me how many yards you will have to mow to pay your bills .

park your truck and prove that things are so easy today . but you wont because you know it is not so easy today as you what to believe it is . you would be asking for the free money like everybody else in the US would
 
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layoutshooter

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but you are the one that is saying he can do it that everybody else should be do it to .
like the driver that says he can make it from pa .to tx. in 15 hours .

thats right you are earning a liveing now . just like the 23 million were before they lost their jobs . it was THEIR way of earning a living too but they were forced to park their way of earning a liveings .

please tell me how many yards you will have to mow to pay your bills .

park your truck and prove that things are so easy today . but you wont because you know it is not so easy today as you what to believe it is . you would be asking for the free money like everybody else in the US would


You REALLY have NO idea how stubborn I can be. I will always have work.

There are ways. My buddy, who lives in PA, QUIT his job. He started an entire NEW career. He is in his late 40's early 50's, can't remember for sure. He now deals blackjack at a casino in WV. He did this DURING this recession.

Don't waste your energy being angry about your situation. Spend it on getting out of it. YOU can do it! Throw out the old ways of looking at earning a living. They may no longer work. INVENT your own way in life. It is a FAR more satisfying way to live.

I am NOT going to park my truck, I started this business because I WANTED TOO and I DID!
 

clcooper

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You REALLY have NO idea how stubborn I can be. I will always have work.

There are ways. My buddy, who lives in PA, QUIT his job. He started an entire NEW career. He is in his late 40's early 50's, can't remember for sure. He now deals blackjack at a casino in WV. He did this DURING this recession.

Don't waste your energy being angry about your situation. Spend it on getting out of it. YOU can do it! Throw out the old ways of looking at earning a living. They may no longer work. INVENT your own way in life. It is a FAR more satisfying way to live.

I am NOT going to park my truck, I started this business because I WANTED TOO and I DID!

can you deal blackjack too . what if i cant . or doesnt that matter because if your buddy can do it anybody can do it . like a tall guy saying that he can reach the top branch from the ground everybody should be able too .

i am not angry about my situation . like is said on here the government has made it so hard to secsed. and so has the techolgy . like in farming 1 guy could only farm a small farm . but today 1 guy can farm hunderd of acres. and there is more people today . so what happens to those people that arent needed to farm or build roads. or cars since they can built with less people now .
 

layoutshooter

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can you deal blackjack too . what if i cant . or doesnt that matter because if your buddy can do it anybody can do it . like a tall guy saying that he can reach the top branch from the ground everybody should be able too .

i am not angry about my situation . like is said on here the government has made it so hard to secsed. and so has the techolgy . like in farming 1 guy could only farm a small farm . but today 1 guy can farm hunderd of acres. and there is more people today . so what happens to those people that arent needed to farm or build roads. or cars since they can built with less people now .

He LEARNED to deal blackjack. So could I, if I wanted too. It was an EXAMPLE of what one can do when they CHOOSE to do it! He did NOT know how to run a sewage treatment plant before he learned but he did that for 20 years. I could not copy code until I learned. I could not play guitar until I learned. You have never worked a job that you did not have to learn how to do. You learned before, you can again.

Human beings have an almost endless capacity to excel. It is only their own "fears" that hold them back. Far too many have been told for far too long that it is a waste of time to try. DON"T LISTEN!! It IS A LIE!!
 

clcooper

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He LEARNED to deal blackjack. So could I, if I wanted too. It was an EXAMPLE of what one can do when they CHOOSE to do it! He did NOT know how to run a sewage treatment plant before he learned but he did that for 20 years. I could not copy code until I learned. I could not play guitar until I learned. You have never worked a job that you did not have to learn how to do. You learned before, you can again.

Human beings have an almost endless capacity to excel. It is only their own "fears" that hold them back. Far too many have been told for far too long that it is a waste of time to try. DON"T LISTEN!! It IS A LIE!!

i agree . and always have . but that has nothing to do with people getting jobs today that arent there .

i could learn to steel . i could learn to lie . i could learn to cheat my way to the top . i could learn to take people out that get in my way to . i could learn to pay off the law makers to get my way too .

so everybody can be the greatest at something . just like driveing truck . how many have you seen hope in a truck with little training and drive like a pro. how many you seen a year later and still drive like it is his first day .
do you think that he should be taken out back a shot . because he cant learn to drive . but he is great at putting the engines togeather and there is not that many jobs for engine builders as there is drivers .

so we need to put people in jobs weather they are good at it or not . weather they like that type of work or not . because they will learn it . because we know somebody just starting out knows more then somebody doing for many years .
is just like you like to hunt so everybody else should like to hunt too . i like sci fi so should everybody else
 

clcooper

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Good luck to you. I cannot help. You believe the lies. Sorry to hear that.

are you sure you dont believe the lies . You learned before, you can again. and you are not willing to learn you are still stuck in time. you are not learning what is going on today . you still think this it is still like it was back in the 70 or the 60 or the 80s or the 50s .
 

layoutshooter

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are you sure you dont believe the lies . You learned before, you can again. and you are not willing to learn you are still stuck in time. you are not learning what is going on today . you still think this it is still like it was back in the 70 or the 60 or the 80s or the 50s .

Good night. I am done. I know when I am wasting my time.
 

clcooper

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yep i walked in to a kkk meeting agian . you are stuck on your beliefs and nothing is going to change your beliefs . you wont even take the time and think about what others have to say .

yep just shot all on welfare , unemployed . because they are all lazy and dont want to work. because they are not like me so lets just shoot them all .

yep the people unemployed can just run down to their local gas station and pump gas like we did in the 60s and 70s . it is still like that today .
 
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Turtle

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Following up, here's another interesting article with an interesting perspective on the OWS crowd, which kind of flies in the face of those who think the entitlement crowd is behind all this, and that being a millionaire means what it use to.

Recession threatens generation of young adults, inspires 'Occupy' protests

Their employment prospects are dim, their debt is high, their lives are on hold and a stunning number are living with their parents, even into their 30s. They are young adults, 18 to 34, struggling to begin their adult lives during the worst economy since the Great Depression, and they risk becoming a lost generation, according to an extensive new study released Wednesday by two advocacy groups.

While begun long before the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, the research may help explain why so many young people are taking part in the protests.

Some data unearthed by the study by the advocacy groups Demos and The Young Invincibles, which combined an independent telephone poll with U.S. Census Bureau data, is stark and stunning. Rent is taking up nearly 33 percent more of young adults’ income than a decade ago -- at least for those who have their own place. But nearly 20 percent live with their parents. They are postponing buying a home, having children, even getting married.

Despite accumulating historic piles student loan debt, nearly 50 percent aren't working in their chosen field. That might suggest college is a waste of time, but young adult men who hold a high school degree earn only 75 percent of what their high-school-educated fathers did, creating an educational Catch-22.

While government underemployment data tells a sobering story – that 16.5 percent of U.S. adults don’t have a job, are being forced to take part-time work or have given up looking for work -- it may markedly understate the problem for young adults. About 60 percent of working young adults questioned by pollsters said they wish they could work more hours for more pay, likely offering a much better approximation of underemployment.

"A lot of the findings in this report could have cause serious economic scarring going forward," said Lauren Strayer, a spokeswoman for New York-based Demos, a non-partisan think tank that says it promotes economic equality and democratic values. “People who have no hope for the future don't plan for it.”

The report, “Young America: Economic Barriers to the American Dream,” was released Wednesday to highlight the groups’ year-long effort to focus attention to economic issues facing young people.

The American Dream is not alive and well.

“People who have no hope for the future don't plan for it.”

Think about that, and read the rest of the article at the link above, and see if you still think this is all about people want free stuff and getting their credit cards and college loans paid for.
 
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