Perry’s Texas Jobs Growth, Aided by Government

Camper

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What a surprise :rolleyes:

Perry’s Economic Texas Two-Step: Impressive Jobs Growth, Aided by Government
By Daniel Gross

Since Texas Governor Rick Perry parachuted into the presidential race, the performance of the Texas economy has become a major topic of discussion. Claims (The Lone Star Jobs Surge, says the Wall Street Journal editorial page) and counterclaims (it's the Texas Unmiracle, says Paul Krugman) are flying fast and furious.
To help sort them out, we delved into some of the data with the help of Ross Ramsey, managing editor of the Texas Tribune, which has the best coverage of Texas's politics and economy.
Texas in June had a state unemployment rate of 8.2 percent in June. That's good, and significantly better than the national average, but higher than that of New York (8 percent) and Massachusetts (7.6 percent). Perry partisans note that Texas has enjoyed excellent jobs growth in recent years. As the Journal noted, since June 2009, "Texas added 265,300 net jobs, out of the 722,000 nationwide." That's the most of any state, "using straight nonfarm payroll employment, Texas accounts for 45% of net U.S. job creation. As Ramsey notes, Texas "went into the economic slump a little more slowly than other states," and has come out stronger.
What accounts for this growth? Several factors. First, as I discovered on a visit to Houston in 2008, the state has morphed into a global capital for energy services, equipment, and expertise. The global energy and commodities boom has thus been very good news for the Texas economy. Second, the state has a growing population, fueled by immigration (from abroad and from within the U.S.). Third, Texas is very hospitable to business. "The job climate here has always been good," said Ramsey. "We have no income tax, it's a right-to-work state, and Texas has a cheap and large labor pool." Part of a Governor's job is not to mess up the pre-existing conditions that help create growth. Perry has succeeded on that measure.
But a deeper dive into the jobs data suggests that there's less than meets the eye to the Texas miracle. When a state's population grows, it has to add more public employees to provide services — more cops, more teachers, more DMV clerks. This chart posted by Ryan Avent of the Economist shows that Texas's jobs growth in recent years has come mostly from the oil and gas industry, and from things funded by the government: education, healthcare, and federal and state employment. This chart posted by blogger Matt Yglesias shows that Texas's government payroll has been in a huge, long-term uptrend. Jared Bernstein, former economic aide to Vice President Joe Biden, notes that Rick Perry's Texas has been the capital of government job creation. From 2007 through 2010, Texas lost 53,000 jobs on net, not a bad performance in an era when the U.S. economy shed several million. But that's because it lost 178,000 private sector jobs while adding 125,000 public sector ones. Notes Bernstein:"47% of all government jobs added in the US between 2007 and 2010 were added in Texas."
My Yahoo! colleague Zachary Roth provides a deeper dive into the Texas job picture here.
Again, a governor shouldn't get demerits simply because the state's population grows. But Perry lacks the conviction to tax his citizens adequately to pay for all of these services. In the last few years, Texas, like every other state, has faced yawning budget deficits. And Texas, like every other state, relied heavily on the federal government to help balance its books. On the stimulus, Perry performed a two-step. In 2009, "they were talking about cutting this and that, and this leprechaun showed up with $17.4 billion," said Ramsey. (Here's a good Texas Tribune article on Texas and the stimulus).
Texas took $17.4 billion in stimulus funds, of which $8 billion was used to pay for ongoing expenditures and $9 billion was plowed into projects. But then Perry loudly refused about $555 million in unemployment insurance funds. "The noise he made over that was sufficient to make people think that Texas didn't take any at all," says Ramsey. To sum up: Perry took well over 90 percent of the stimulus money offered him, and spent a lot of it immediately, much of it on salaries and benefits for public sector workers. So Perry is either a stimulus hypocrite — opposing its passage, and then eagerly taking what is offered — or simply an advocate trying to ensure that his state receives its fair share of stuff that is going to be paid for in time by his state's taxpayers. I report, you decide.
Even with all the federal assistance, Texas has still been forced to make deep cuts in the services it provides. Ramsey notes that the recently concluded budget cut spending on Medicaid, and on education spending, even though the state adds about 80,000 new public school students each year. These cuts come at a time when the state's performance on several pretty basic measures of social and economic well-being is poor, bordering on pathetic. When it comes to health insurance, Ramsey notes, "we're one of the bottom states." According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, fully 26 percent of the state's population lacks insurance, compared with 17 percent nationwide; 18 percent of children in Texas don't have health insurance, compared with 10 percent nationwide. (By comparison, only five percent of people in Massachusetts don't have health insurance which is something Mitt Romney should be proud of, but apparently isn't). As the poster Invictus notes at The Big Picture, on a host of social metrics, including teen birth rates, property crime, the percentage of children and elderly living in poverty, high-growth Texas ranks at or near the bottom.
There's a final contradiction in the record. Perry is running as a freedom-loving libertarian who doesn't view government activity as a means to boost the economy. Yet he promoted an extremely ambitious infrastructure program, the Trans-Texas Corridor, a system of roads connecting some of the main points in the state with highways for cars and trucks, freight and passenger trains, pipelines, etc. "On paper it was an interesting idea," said Ramsey. "It would have been visible from Mars." The Trans-Texas Corridor would also have required massive, quarter-mile-wide rights of way. And that aroused the ire of property owners, who fought against it as a big-government property grab. The plan was ultimately spiked.
Daniel Gross is economics editor at Yahoo! Finance
Email him at [email protected]; follow him on Twitter @grossdm
 

witness23

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He's doing a great job of running the state of Texas by being business friendly for the private sector and adding jobs to the state, and being responsible in hiring public sector jobs to support his people. Great.

Here's the problem. He doesn't say that, he doesn't want his base to know that, he is running on the emotion of the people and not being truthful about it. He knows that is not what will get him elected. The Republican party has backed themselves into a corner with all their Socialism, tyranny, dictatorship, rhetoric they keep espousing, when in reality they know that the private sector and the public sector can work together for the common good. Is it perfect? No. But who or what is? Corruption and inefficiencies is what the American people and our politicians should be focused on, not calling eachother "Un-American", "Treasonous", "Socialist", "Marxist" and the list goes on and on.

I guess its just like the media, if your not controversial, you don't get the attention. *sigh*
 

layoutshooter

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The Dumb-O-Crats are not different. They use "fear mongering" as almost their sole means of getting elected as well. What's new?

Want jobs? Get government out of the way. Want freedom? Get rid of a much government as is possible. Government restricts freedom by it's very nature.

Notice I did NOT mention party, just government. Governments are at best a needed evil, but make no mistake, all government are evil.
 

Camper

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He's doing a great job of running the state of Texas by being business friendly for the private sector and adding jobs to the state, and being responsible in hiring public sector jobs to support his people. Great.

Here's the problem. He doesn't say that, he doesn't want his base to know that, he is running on the emotion of the people and not being truthful about it. He knows that is not what will get him elected. The Republican party has backed themselves into a corner with all their Socialism, tyranny, dictatorship, rhetoric they keep espousing, when in reality they know that the private sector and the public sector can work together for the common good. Is it perfect? No. But who or what is? Corruption and inefficiencies is what the American people and our politicians should be focused on, not calling eachother "Un-American", "Treasonous", "Socialist", "Marxist" and the list goes on and on.

I guess its just like the media, if your not controversial, you don't get the attention. *sigh*

It's just another example of how both major parties are in bed with each other and the same special interest groups. All the name calling you refer to is nothing more than theatrics to divert the public's attention away from the actual issues.
 

layoutshooter

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It's just another example of how both major parties are in bed with each other and the same special interest groups. All the name calling you refer to is nothing more than theatrics to divert the public's attention away from the actual issues.

How right you are!! Both of our two major "political parties" are nothing more than organized crime groups. It is far easier to look at Obama as the "godfather" than it is to look at him as president. Given the chance, this government as all government, will use similar tactics as the mobs to control the people.
 

greg334

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I heard this the other day twice and ask it here, why doesn't anyone ask perry how come he took federal money to offset his budget loses while preaching now that he can help the country?
 

witness23

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It's just another example of how both major parties are in bed with each other and the same special interest groups. All the name calling you refer to is nothing more than theatrics to divert the public's attention away from the actual issues.

Unlike others, I believe the majority in our Government are trying to do the right thing(call me naive if you feel you have to). Unfortunately, the American people demand this kind of behavior in our politicians, entertainers, news, etc, etc. It is a sad state of affairs indeed. Most are unable to put their emotions aside and come to the table for the good of the people.
 

layoutshooter

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Unlike others, I believe the majority in our Government are trying to do the right thing(call me naive if you feel you have to). Unfortunately, the American people demand this kind of behavior in our politicians, entertainers, news, etc, etc. It is a sad state of affairs indeed. Most are unable to put their emotions aside and come to the table for the good of the people.



If the majority were trying to do right, we would not be in this mess. In my opinion any way.

The problem is that almost all of our so-called elected officials are more interested in being members of a "political party" and voting along the lines of that party. They are elected to represent their DISTRICT ONLY!! If the district tells them to vote for or against an issue THEY ARE REQUIRED to, IF they are going to do their jobs that is. That is the idea behind "no taxation without representation". When they vote for the "good of the nation" rather than what those who elected them want, they are no longer representing their district. That is the problem.
 

greg334

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As I was told I didn't know how government worked and called a tard, I would like to remind people our government is made up of two halves, one is our elected officials and the other is the bureaucracies that runs the government. The former is in our control if we want it to be but we can't access it while the former has the access and in the influence and is the part we gave the control to.

No matter how you cut it, the first part may be the part that is trying to do the right thing or appears to be but the second part is and always have been trying to retain their power by any means. The amazing thing is the founding fathers understood this and they warned us about having a large government run by a class of people who were really not accountable to anyone but themselves.
 

layoutshooter

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It is my contention that the "elected side" is in cahoots with the "other side". They have the means to take away the power of the bureaucracies if they wanted too. I believe that they do not want too. It is my belief that they are using the bureaucracies to do their bidding as means of controlling the People.

If it IS the case that the elected side is unable to control the bureaucracies then they are inept and must go. If it is as I believe then they are dangerous and must go. In other words, they must go.
 

Camper

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It is my contention that the "elected side" is in cahoots with the "other side". They have the means to take away the power of the bureaucracies if they wanted too. I believe that they do not want too. It is my belief that they are using the bureaucracies to do their bidding as means of controlling the People.

If it IS the case that the elected side is unable to control the bureaucracies then they are inept and must go. If it is as I believe then they are dangerous and must go. In other words, they must go.

Precisely...It is the elected "side" that appointed the bureaucrat "side". Hence, they are all one in the same.


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greg334

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The elected side does not appoint the bureaucrats, they are hired to do the work of the government and that's part of the problem. If they were appointed, their job would have a finite time line and have to reappointed to it.
 

greg334

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If you want to see this in action, go down to a local city council meeting and see what goes on when they are discussing budgets. Cities don't get rid of people like the parks or water people but cops and firemen are the first to be cut. Which makes me wonder where people's priorities are at - parks more important than safety?
 

layoutshooter

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EVERYONE needs water to survive. Firefighting is more than able to be handled by volunteers. Most firefighter in this country, something like 70% are already volunteer anyway. No good reason for the rest not to be. Cops? Don't need as many as the population in a given city decreases.

Many bureaucrats ARE appointed by government. Like the Heads of DOT, CIA, NSA. FMSCA, EPA, FCC, FAA, and so on and so forth. Most have regulatory powers with little if any over site from congress. Not to mention the "Czars" who have HUGE salaries, budgets and NO over site. Many of whom more or less pass laws.
 

Camper

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The elected side does not appoint the bureaucrats, they are hired to do the work of the government and that's part of the problem. If they were appointed, their job would have a finite time line and have to reappointed to it.

Well, then what do you call the appointees(cabinet, commissioners, directors, etc.)?

If you're talking about the rank and file employees, well, OK, they're not appointees. However, they're not the fat cats up at the top, Joe Q public talks about with respect to bureaucrats. Those fat cats happen to be bureaucrats appointed by that "elected side".
 

layoutshooter

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Well, then what do you call the appointees(cabinet, commissioners, directors, etc.)?

If you're talking about the rank and file employees, well, OK, they're not appointees. However, they're not the fat cats up at the top, Joe Q public talks about with respect to bureaucrats. Those fat cats happen to be bureaucrats appointed by that "elected side".

Many everyday rank and file employee are "appointees". All at the "Agency" were congressional "appointees". We were assigned jobs after we were cleared. They just have no power.
 

greg334

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Well, then what do you call the appointees(cabinet, commissioners, directors, etc.)?

If you're talking about the rank and file employees, well, OK, they're not appointees. However, they're not the fat cats up at the top, Joe Q public talks about with respect to bureaucrats. Those fat cats happen to be bureaucrats appointed by that "elected side".

I think a few of you miss the point. it is those at those lower levels who have the real power. The manager or director has to answer to congress, but those 'regular joes' have to answer to no one. This is why those who are entrenched in the government are the ones who have direct access to our congress and protest when anyone tries to make a change but they are also the more dangerous of any group in the government.
 

layoutshooter

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I think a few of you miss the point. it is those at those lower levels who have the real power. The manager or director has to answer to congress, but those 'regular joes' have to answer to no one. This is why those who are entrenched in the government are the ones who have direct access to our congress and protest when anyone tries to make a change but they are also the more dangerous of any group in the government.

None that I worked with had any power. I only worked with "regular joes". Shoot I was a "regular guy" average height and weight, (maybe too heavy) and my name IS Joe, for REAL!! Never had any "power".

what "regular joes" are you talking about? :confused:
 

Camper

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I think a few of you miss the point. it is those at those lower levels who have the real power. The manager or director has to answer to congress, but those 'regular joes' have to answer to no one. This is why those who are entrenched in the government are the ones who have direct access to our congress and protest when anyone tries to make a change but they are also the more dangerous of any group in the government.

With all due respect, your definition of who a bureaucrat is seems to deviate from that of the public at large. The bureaucrats are the politically connected at the middle management ranks, on up to the appointees, making the six figure salaries, not the clerk behind the counter, making $15-$20/hour.

The people on the front lines do have to answer to someone, their boss. At the end of the day, they're ordinary people, doing a job like us and chances are, they're just as fed up with the bureaucracy as we are.
 

chefdennis

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Camper wrote:

With all due respect, your definition of who a bureaucrat is seems to deviate from that of the public at large.

Camper, really...pleaseee...you think that you and the general public are correct and not greg!?!? That yours and their opinions and defintions are true over the holy grail that is gregs statements....I mean you have been here long enough to understand that greg is all knowing and everyone else is...well they and we are just "everyone else...please, enough with questioning and differing opinions....:rolleyes:
 
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