I just read the timeline....continue on....
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Penn State ruling
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I just read the timeline....continue on....
Glad to see you keep up on current events.
Must have been that 5th.
College ball is big down here...it is almost a religion unto itself....everyone worrying about the darn football program and what will happen to PS......hey PS got what they deserved....hopefully more will be charged in the coverup....
Agreed....
also the NCAA did a good thing they in turn get no financial leg up from this punishment....the scholarship dollars and TV revenue is all going to a worthy cause....
that was spread out over 5 years @ 12 million...=60....plus the 13 mil estimated from TV revenue...they said....total 73 million...
60 million was a stretch agreed....other programs will suffer becasue of that, and that ain't right...
No one is going to SUFFER. Penn State will continue. Football players, and students, can go where that they want if this interferes with their life too much right now. One can even argue that the forced deemphesis of the football program will benefit everyone in the long term.
Yeah, I know. I have heard the argument before. I am not so sure that i buy it. The school will still be there, the football games will still be attended and the bars will still serve underage drinker as long as they continue to come in. In the long term, nothing will change and I would bet that little changes there, even in the short term. The attendance at those games is far more about the social aspects than it is about the football. IF it does have that big of an impact then maybe a whole lot of students, and people in general, have had their priorities in the wrong place for far too long. They go there to get an education, EVERYTHING else SHOULD be secondary. Maybe it is time that the NFL get a minor league system so that college football players can be in school for an education rather than pursuing a career catching a ball.
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Now your contradicting your previous post.
If students go elsewhere and the school is forced to do as you say it most certainly impact the entire town.
People have got great educations at Penn state and the football program has most likely played a part in the level of respect its degrees have earned.
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It is a very sad comment on our society when just cutting back on playing a game would have THAT much of an impact when the PURPOSE of a school is to TEACH. Sad indeed.
Well, yeah, sure, they can argue it, but it'll be short and weak, and virtually devoid of reason, because it assumes that football, in every aspect, is bad for individuals and society at large.
As an example of of an argument devoid of reason would be if someone were to say, oh, I don't know, something like, "It is a very sad comment on our society when just cutting back on playing a game would have THAT much of an impact when the PURPOSE of a school is to TEACH. Sad indeed."... especially when the person saying it is on record as having stated on several times without equivocation that the best learning is experience and you can't learn anything out of a book.
The sad statement above assumes there are no educational benefits or life lessons to be learned whatsoever from having a football program, either for the players or the spectators, and that being forced to not be able to enjoy it to the fullest is somehow beneficial to everyone. It's an argument that I would love to read, how forcing people to not do something that the majority of people want to do is beneficial to all, how limiting college education academics would be better than a well-rounded and diverse education. Plus, there's nothing quite like the overall emotional lift a community gets by having it's entire town dragged through the mud.
The love of an image, a person, or position often allows people to turn a blind eye to the abuse being doled out by those same entities. It doesn't matter whether it's a school, a church, a home, or a branch of the intelligence service, it's a common occurrence to look the other way and protect your own even when the most egregious actions are taking place. These very same people will often press for harsh penalties when it happens to someone else, though, as a way to make them fell less guilty of their own transgressions. They also tend to ignore the ramifications of such harsh penalties when those not involved get caught in the wake.
The economies of small communities dominated by college football are adversely effected when the team has a couple of bad seasons; it's hard to tell how bad it will be on the State College community under these conditions. If an SEC or Big Ten team goes 4-7 or even 6-6, people stop buying t-shirts and hats, donations get smaller, fewer season tickets are bought, fewer hotel rooms are booked during game weekends...you get the picture. Of course Penn St ran a national program and has fans, supporters and donors all over the country who won't be there any more. Their reputation is stained and the effect on the entire university will be devastating - financially and otherwise - and the community will pay the price along with them.
There is nothing learned in college football that cannot be learned in other forums at lower cost.
I am NOT opposed to organized sports. I have never said that. What I have said is that adoring those programs and putting more into them than is often put into being able to read, is a very bad choice of priorities. So is 'forgiving' (ignoring) a felony record if someone can bounce a ball really well.
I protect NO law breaker. When I was in intell I had NO PROBLEM turning in those who did wrong, and did. I had NO problem writing against transgressions. Just as I would have NO problem reporting a driver that I saw doing unsafe things, driving under the influence or what ever. Those who take part in those transgression put lives at risk and harm my chances of earning a living.
Don't really have any knowledge of either claim but just maybe people keep a much closer eye on daughter than sons. I also don't think there is any shortage of young girls that have been molested. It does seem that the bigger cases are men and boys perhaps boys are even more likely than girls not to tell a trusted person so it takes longer to stop the guilty and gives them more time to abuse others.
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