I read something recently about a push to supply Israel with tanker aircraft so they could do in-flight refueling ....
Yup ...... likely not ......
Yup ...... likely not ......
However, expect someone to show up at any moment trying to sell the idea that the Israelis will be ".... welcomed in the streets as liberators ....."
Please provide sources for this conclusion / statement. Maybe the rest of us have missed something - the Iranian population has suddenly changed it's mind since the riots of 2009 - 2010 and everything is wonderful.
Goes almost without saying, don't it ?
Nope ..... but they're not the only ones who's population isn't entirely happy with those in positions of power ....
I'm sure they are ..... I'm also quite sure that they understand exactly who is responsible for the jackboot that is pressed against their economic neck that is preventing them from having a better economy.... just in case anyone has forgotten who has pushed for the international sanctions against them .....
Since I don't see those posts I don't know what was said about "outside influences". But let me guess - all their economic, social and human rights problems are the fault of the U.S.
Since I don't see those posts I don't know what was said about "outside influences". But let me guess - all their economic, social and human rights problems are the fault of the U.S.
It doesn't take much research to uncover the human rights abuses of the "mullahcratic" despotism over there which was exemplified by the brutal crackdown against the Iranian population's Green Revolution in 2009, during which Barack Hussein Obama say idly by and did nothing. It's also easy to find information about Iran's economic conditions, which have been pretty lousy for years thanks to the mismanagement of the military and their ruling clerics. But we're supposed to believe that the Iranian people are all happy campers in spite of their high inflation rate, high unemployment rate, widespread govt. corruption and human rights abuses? No doubt all those protesters that were risking their lives in the streets during the 2009 riots against the rigged elections have done a 180 degree turnaround and come to their senses.
"A “rentier economy” is possibly the best description that can be given to the Iranian economy today. In general, countries that receive considerable amounts of oil income from foreign sources on a regular basis tend to become independent from their societies, unaccountable to their citizens, and despotic. The Iranian economy has adopted a rentier character. If not prevented, it will doom the country’s economy and long-term prospects.
Furthermore, corruption is ramping up. Just recently it was revealed that an embezzlement operation amounting to $3 billion has taken place in Bank Saderat. The described fraud is the biggest in the country’s banking history. The embezzlement comes only a week after a similar case, estimated to have cost around $2 billion...
Unlike developed economies, the government and Central Bank of Iran have limited capacity to employ fiscal and monetary stimuli to bolster growth as they failed to sustain surpluses during the oil surge. This may cause the economy to go out of control. Already, factors such as the artificial foreign exchange rate, directive deposit and lending bank rates, the high inflation rate, the high unemployment rate, the falling production rate, massive imports, sanctions, etc. have put the economy in shambles. A much disciplined advanced system is needed to replace the current system to resolve the state of the economy with all these challenges taking place simultaneously."
http://www.payvand.com/news/11/sep/1112.html
I agree wholeheartedly so long as they keep it inside their borders. However, when and if they start exporting terrorism or aiding/abetting terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah that effect us or our allies like Israel, then it creates a problem we need to address.
Please do remember that you are addressing your comments to one of the self-appointed "Masters Of The Universe" ....
So we're to believe that the Iranians have been pure as the wind-driven snow, and all this trouble is because the evil imperialist yankees "meddled" in Iran's affairs??
That's just pure, unadulterated (expletive deleted) that comes straight off the Lew Rockwell website. You seem to conveniently ignore the fact that Iran has been a state sponsor of terrorism since the 1970s, arming, aiding and abetting organizations like Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi insurgents, and most recently the Syrian regime that's slaughtering it's citizens in the streets by the thousands - talk about MEDDLING in the affairs of other countries?! And speaking of meddling, how about Iran's repeated vow to wipe Israel off the map and their denial of Israel's right to even exist? Sounds like that might qualify also, especially in light of their involvement with terrorist groups inside Lebanon and the PLO.
More Ron Paul nonsense.
I'll bet the French thought the same thing about Nazi Germany in the spring of 1936, right before Hitler crossed into the Rhineland. We all know how their policy of non-intervention and appeasement worked outWhich Heritage guy said that, and was he talking about closing the Straits of Hormuz? There's an extensive study on their website that demonstrates the exact opposite, and I posted a link to it in an earlier thread.
Nope - but neither are we ....
Well, you seem to think that what Iran does to Israel might have some bearing on their relationship .... so why is it that what we have done to Iran would have absolutely no bearing on our relationship with them, or their attitude towards us ?
OH-MI-GAWD ..... Noooooooo !
So we're to believe that the Iranians have been pure as the wind-driven snow, and all this trouble is because the evil imperialist yankees "meddled" in Iran's affairs??
More Ron Paul nonsense.
The problem of our own making was Jimmy Carter's refusal to support the Shah, and instead allow the Ayatollah Khomeini - the father of modern terrorism - to return from exile to power in Iran. Granted, the Shah wasn't perfect by any means but he was considerably better than his replacement who came in and immediately started jailing and killing people by the thousands. Coincidentally, there are two excellent articles in today's WSJ about the Iranian threats and how they are escalating.
And my point stands as valid - they are state sposors of terrorism.
I agree 100% that we should not be throwing away taxpayer dollars to terrorist organizations, their sponsors, or anyone else that's not a proven ally of the U.S.
Who's Glenn Beck?
But seriously, yes they can defend themselves but they do need our help with the provision of arms and weapons. The point is that they declare openly their intent to eliminate a sovereign nation and its people - that's not good.Wrong - a logical fallacy.
Yes they were - the French military could have crushed Hitler's forces and he knew it. His army was under orders to immediately retreat if they were challenged, and if the French had taken care of business WW2 could have been prevented then and there. However, Hitler was correct in reading the mindset of the French politicians since they were involved in their own political crisis at the time and had no stomach for war having just come out of WW1. Sound familiar? What other country can we think of that has an ongoing political / economic crisis and is in the process of extricating itself from two unpopular wars?
That's right - we were weak and vulnerable because our leaders drew down our military capabilities thinking there wouldn't be any more wars after WW1, while ignoring Germany's military buildup in direct violation of the Treaty of Versailles. (See the parallel between these events and the current Iranian "buildup" with nuclear development?) Then war broke out in Europe, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and it took us two years to rebuild to the level we needed to fight another world war in locations all over the globe. Obama is drawing down our military right now and destroying our economy with debt, putting us in a similarly vulnerable position. Amazing how these supposedly intelligent politicians can't learn from history. If the American people don't wake up and vote Obama and his socialist minions out of office, history is going to repeat itself.