Ontario passes speed limiter

Scuba

Veteran Expediter
Ontario has passed their speed limiter law how many of you plan to take your truck in and have it turned down? The report didn't say when they are going to enforce it.
 

Broompilot

Veteran Expediter
Will not be going back. It has been nice, I drive below the limit they have set but I will not spend any more $ than I already have to go back, enough is enough, Pass Port, clean truck, spot less back ground I GIVE. Take your freight Ontartio and stick it where the sun just does not shine.

Enuff said.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Ontario's new speeding law. October 2007

The average offender facing a minimum penalty of at least $2,300. As a bonus the speed demon in control of any motor vehicle accused of going more than 50 kilometers above the speed limit, racing or making unsafe turns will have his car impounded for a week.

The driver will have to look for a taxi to take him home and the vehicle will be towed to "guest" quarters where the going rate is about $40 a day.

If the driver is convicted, he will pay a minimum fine of $2000. That's if he is lucky. The maximum fine is $10,000.

Should he beat the charge with the help of an expensive legal eagle, he will be still out of pocket: There is no provision under the Highway Traffic Act for reimbursing towing and storage costs and there is no right of appeal.

Sob stories. such as "I need my licence and my car or I will lose my job" will not wash: The irresponsible and dangerous driver should have thought about that before perching his lead foot on the accelerator pedal.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
TORONTO, June 16 /CNW/ - The Ontario legislature today passed a bill
mandating speed limiter use on most large trucks to cap speeds at 105
kilometres per hour to reduce pollution and improve road safety.
A speed limiter is an electronic device that caps the top speed of a
vehicle. Speed limiters are proven to lower maintenance costs and improve fuel
economy.
In Ontario, transportation accounts for more than 30 per cent of the
province's total greenhouse gas emissions. As part of Ontario's plan to fight
climate change, speed limiters will help reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
The use of speed limiters could be implemented as early as fall 2008,
followed by a six to 12 month education period.

QUICK FACTS

- Mandatory speed limiters in Ontario will reduce greenhouse gas
emissions by as much as 280,000 tonnes - that's like taking 2,700
tractor-trailers off the roads every year. It will also save about
100 million litres of diesel fuel per year.
- Speed limiters are mandatory for all trucks manufactured after 1995
with an electronic engine operating in Ontario, regardless of where
they come from.
- Most trucks built in the last decade come equipped with speed limiter
technology.
 
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x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Well now, guess there is some benefit to running a 1992 model. After all, been paid for for thirteen years. Maybe they tink it won't go that fast, eh?
 

FIS53

Veteran Expediter
Now for those of you wondering how the dot will know if your compliant the ministry or transport has already ordered (probably received) plugin units to download info from your onboard computer which will show limited speed and other such goodies. Although some dot officers had these readers before now almost all scales and roadside inspection officers will be so equipped. Now they tell us they can only read info not upload or make any changes to the onboard system. Now don't you feel real safe knowing the gov't is going to plug into your truck??? Hope them thar log books are in real good order.
Rob
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Well now, guess there is some benefit to running a 1992 model. After all, been paid for for thirteen years. Maybe they tink it won't go that fast, eh?

prolly runs better then some of these "new and improved" models.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
You guys do realize...105 kms is just over 65 mph??? Which is faster then Mi and better yet over Ohio....so there shouldn't be a problem and the legal speed for 4 wheelers and trucks is 100 kms per hour or 63 mph....so in essence the only thing your losing is your right to break the law....??? ironic?
 
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davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Looks like a wide open market for Hino trucks. Maybe profitable as well. Just sit in Detroit and run back and forth.
 

jasonsprouse

Expert Expediter
You guys do realize...105 kms is just over 65 mph??? Which is faster then Mi and better yet over Ohio....so there shouldn't be a problem and the legal speed for 4 wheelers and trucks is 100 kms per hour or 63 mph....so in essence the only thing your losing is your right to break the law....??? ironic?

Right. But once the speed limiter is set, the truck cannot go over that speed WHEREVER you drive.
 
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ebsprintin

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OVM,

Why should Ontario try to mandate how fast a truck can drive through west Texas? If I'm going too fast write me a ticket. I don't break the law in Ontario, and I like the option of going the speed limit wherever I happen to be. It's just more of the slippery slope getting slipperier.

This is a boon for the likes of Schneider. Kill the competition through legislation.

eb
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I will spend NO extra money to run in Canada. I almost always run that slow anyway. If I am required to have ANYTHING changed on my programing etc, I WILL NOT RUN IN ONTARIO!! They can KMA!!
**** socialists. Why do you guys who live up there put up with it? Will they mandate special colors next? Why don't they enforce the speed laws on allllll the 4 wheelers that NEVER drive inside posted limits instead?? It is bad enough they harrass us on the Detroit River when hunting and fishing in US water. They have a big problem knowing where they are at. Much carry socialist GPS units. They bug us allllll the time out there. Had a friend stopped while fishing over 1/2 mile inside US waters. They took a cutter into OUR waters and boarded him. They only left when a US Coast Guard cutter politely "INFORMED" them that they were in our water. What is going on up there? Get ready, it will be happening down here soon. Layoutshooter
 
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layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
How come our carrier have not asked us if we have put a limiter on or informed us that we are required to now?
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
By the way OVM, what I lose is my money and my right to drive safely. I may need more speed for a minute or two to get out of trouble etc. I do not need a machine to keep me from driving too fast. I can do it on my own. Always have, well at least since I grew up. Had a tiny bit of a speed problem when I was a teenager. Layoutshooter
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
QUICK FACTS

- Mandatory speed limiters in Ontario will reduce greenhouse gas
emissions by as much as 280,000 tonnes - that's like taking 2,700
tractor-trailers off the roads every year. It will also save about
100 million litres of diesel fuel per year.

They're guessing, based on an unproven theory. Robots of the global machine.

I was contemplating doing the Canada thing with my authority. Not anymore.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I think it the same as ATA and big carriers when they pushed for the change in the HOS...to limit competition from the independents...The CTA has the same lobby power and the CAA..like your AAA....

It was the U.S. that changed the HOS and Canada for the ease of commercial traffic had to change with you...

It was the U.S. that changed the spring forward Fall back clocks and again Canada to keep everything running smooth had to change....Did your government consult with Canada before the change? I highly doubt it....The U.S inconvenienced other counties just for their own convenience. So before you start with the darn Canadian routine think....Please.
 
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ebsprintin

Veteran Expediter
I'm not going to say it's a Canada first thing. Chicken or the egg. It was probably companies south of the border that lobbied for it. The problem is the constant creep that happens regardless of which side of the border it comes from. Today it is Ontario, but yesterday and tomorrow it will continue to be California and New York and ...

eb
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
OVM, ALL government sucks. What I cannot understand is why anyone would want to go along with ANY of this? Global warming? BUNK. HOS, BUNK. Speed limiters? BUNK and dangerous. Our government is ALMOST as socialist as yours and headed that way fast. Why help them? I have a GREAT idea, may Michigan should stop Canada from dumping trash here or crossing the border to get medical care denied to them in Canada? Or the meds not on the "list". It is not the Canadian or US Government that is the problem. It is us allowing these turkeys to get away with this stuff. Why do you defend this? By the way, daylight savings time goes back to WW2, for the same dumb reason that we do it now, to save on fuel. Did not work then or now. Stupid idea. Must be a government thing. Layoutshooter
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Hmmm ...... well, judging from the reaction of US-based drivers on here maaybe ..... juuust maaaybe .... this law is having it's true intended effect:

If none of you are willing to run into Canada anymore, who's going to haul all those cross-border loads ?

Maybe they should have called it "The Canadian Commercial Drivers Full Employment Act" ? :D
 
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