Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'

Freightdawg

Expert Expediter
On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial "large magazines." Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, "to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda," she said.

"I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."



Read more: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar' - Guns - Fox Nation
 

Poorboy

Expert Expediter
The only way I'll give up my gun(s) is if Obumma comes to my house personally to get them! He'll get a piece of it but not the whole thing:mad:
 

EASYTRADER

Expert Expediter
It won't be Oboma it will be your local respected Law officer or sherif. The occupation army is already in place.

BTW-it was the respected NON-Nazi criminal police who rounded up the jews and commies and other enemies of the regime. So as Mark Twain said "History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme"

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purgoose10

Veteran Expediter
I was watching the news the other morning when they showed O'bama with the Queen of England. He's offering the queen a toast during the playing of the National Anthem. We are in deep petunia's.:eek:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
It won't be Oboma it will be your local respected Law officer or sherif. The occupation army is already in place.

You know Easy, that's an interesting comment because once upon a time, the citizens were the law enforcement in this country and the term "taking the law into our hands" was never used for a good reason - we can't.
 

EASYTRADER

Expert Expediter
Ur right Greg, but thanks to fascist like you who can't read anything the gov wants to do you guys support under the commerce clause.

LOL - at least I'm consistant

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Ragman

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Retired Expediter
Ur right Greg, but thanks to fascist like you who can't read anything the gov wants to do you guys support under the commerce clause.

LOL - at least I'm consistant

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WOW! :eek:
 

greg334

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Ur right Greg, but thanks to fascist like you who can't read anything the gov wants to do you guys support under the commerce clause.

Oh really?

Why do you guys think I support the government position all the time?

Is it because I bring a bit of reality to some of these posts where the OPs are bringing nothing but BS to the forum and other like minded people jump in there and they all act incredulous when someone brings an opposing point of view - I think they can't see the forest for the trees.

The one thing that bothers me when people are b*thcing about their freedoms or how the government is taking their freedoms away but don't offer any frikn' solutions. A number of people miss the history of our country and think that we have been so d*mn free that we are now seeing an encroachment of our freedoms for the first time - hate to break the news to you all but between 1913 and 1920, we had a lot less freedoms and the Wilson administration did more damage to our constitution than any president before and since.

I will explain again what I stand for - liberty and freedom. It sounds odd for you to read that after calling me a fascist but I don't believe in the conservatives version of liberty and Freedom, and surely don't believe in the liberal version but I understand two important things - that there is no real difference between those two versions and many who claim to be liberal and conservative actually fall into the group I am in because they see and experience the same things I do.

Being fascist isn't what people think, I can count a bunch of liberals who fall into that category but I also can see a large number of public conservatives slanting toward the ideology. McCain is one, Bush is another in a few regards, Obama as much as he is a Marxist he too has implemented fascist ideas (auto company bailout anyone?) and Hillary who is the closest thing we have to one in government.

What is being a fascist is having a government take over a company and make millions for those freinds who are in power that took the company over. Case in Point is GM and the millions the goldman people made while other goldman people were involved in the administration to make sure that it goes their way. People in congress think the same way, the very ones who are claiming to be conservatives.

Me?

I truly believe in small government, not the "small" government that conservatives want or Reagan preached but one that is actually small. I believe in our national defense when it is national defense and I believe that we should be able to regulate firearms but only when it comes to felons AND NO ONE ELSE. I have no problem with a 16 year old going to Walmart and buying a shot gun for hunting or allowing someone to buy a gun out of Shotgun News without a dealer's license.

I believe that Kelo vs. New London was the biggest threat to our freedoms, not just property ownership but other things that have a fallout because of it and am critical of those who preach Reagan conservatism but do not want to do a thing about fixing Kelo - a very big issue for me. Along with that, I believe in absolute property rights, without interference from city, state or federal governments - which including building permits, permission to build and environmental controls.

Unlike real fascist, I don't believe in government help for things that can be done by the people. Helping others get back on their feet is not a fascist quality, to be exact the rugged individual stuff I keep hearing from a lot of conservatives can't be true because many who preach it seem to not want to get involved helping others out at the same time seem to justify government programs to help out those out.

I believe that we work in an regulated industry that is a constitutional mandate from us, the people to regulate interstate commerce. THIS includes issues like HOS and drug testing but also includes California not having the right to refuse my truck entry into their state to conduct interstate commerce, the reason for the commerce clause. I realized that there is a two fold problem, if you want freedom to run your truck outside of you state, someone has to make sure you can run your truck outside your state and it isn't your state.

Speaking of the commerce clause, here is my take - there have been abuses that have taken place using it, but those abuses can be changed only if we want to fight to change them, which really means we need to clean our house every once in a while. I would like to have people more involved with a common cause than to see them just b^tch about issues. I would like to see them engage their representative, even in mass, to get things done so if you think I'm a fascist, I guess that's being a fascist is all about.

Oh ... and no I am not consistent for a reason.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
greg wrote;

Oh really?

Why do you guys think I support the government position all the time?

Is it because I bring a bit of reality to some of these posts where the OPs are bringing nothing but BS to the forum and other like minded people jump in there and they all act incredulous when someone brings an opposing point of view - I think they can't see the forest for the trees.

The one thing that bothers me when people are b*thcing about their freedoms or how the government is taking their freedoms away but don't offer any frikn' solutions. A number of people miss the history of our country and think that we have been so d*mn free that we are now seeing an encroachment of our freedoms for the first time - hate to break the news to you all but between 1913 and 1920, we had a lot less freedoms and the Wilson administration did more damage to our constitution than any president before and since.

I will explain again what I stand for - liberty and freedom. It sounds odd for you to read that after calling me a fascist but I don't believe in the conservatives version of liberty and Freedom, and surely don't believe in the liberal version but I understand two important things - that there is no real difference between those two versions and many who claim to be liberal and conservative actually fall into the group I am in because they see and experience the same things I do.

Being fascist isn't what people think, I can count a bunch of liberals who fall into that category but I also can see a large number of public conservatives slanting toward the ideology. McCain is one, Bush is another in a few regards, Obama as much as he is a Marxist he too has implemented fascist ideas (auto company bailout anyone?) and Hillary who is the closest thing we have to one in government.

What is being a fascist is having a government take over a company and make millions for those freinds who are in power that took the company over. Case in Point is GM and the millions the goldman people made while other goldman people were involved in the administration to make sure that it goes their way. People in congress think the same way, the very ones who are claiming to be conservatives.

Me?

I truly believe in small government, not the "small" government that conservatives want or Reagan preached but one that is actually small. I believe in our national defense when it is national defense and I believe that we should be able to regulate firearms but only when it comes to felons AND NO ONE ELSE. I have no problem with a 16 year old going to Walmart and buying a shot gun for hunting or allowing someone to buy a gun out of Shotgun News without a dealer's license.

I believe that Kelo vs. New London was the biggest threat to our freedoms, not just property ownership but other things that have a fallout because of it and am critical of those who preach Reagan conservatism but do not want to do a thing about fixing Kelo - a very big issue for me. Along with that, I believe in absolute property rights, without interference from city, state or federal governments - which including building permits, permission to build and environmental controls.

Unlike real fascist, I don't believe in government help for things that can be done by the people. Helping others get back on their feet is not a fascist quality, to be exact the rugged individual stuff I keep hearing from a lot of conservatives can't be true because many who preach it seem to not want to get involved helping others out at the same time seem to justify government programs to help out those out.

I believe that we work in an regulated industry that is a constitutional mandate from us, the people to regulate interstate commerce. THIS includes issues like HOS and drug testing but also includes California not having the right to refuse my truck entry into their state to conduct interstate commerce, the reason for the commerce clause. I realized that there is a two fold problem, if you want freedom to run your truck outside of you state, someone has to make sure you can run your truck outside your state and it isn't your state.

Speaking of the commerce clause, here is my take - there have been abuses that have taken place using it, but those abuses can be changed only if we want to fight to change them, which really means we need to clean our house every once in a while. I would like to have people more involved with a common cause than to see them just b^tch about issues. I would like to see them engage their representative, even in mass, to get things done so if you think I'm a fascist, I guess that's being a fascist is all about.

Oh ... and no I am not consistent for a reason.

Who Cares......:rolleyes:
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I was going to say they should be under the crosshairs not under the radar but I suppose our overly sensitive members would take it incorrectly so I guess I won't after all.
 

EASYTRADER

Expert Expediter
The answer to Woodrow Wilson was Calvin Coolidge the last great american president. I believe he holds the record for presidential vetoes, if not the record he's in the top 5

Yes greg people like you are the problem. Arguing an unconstitutional power grab because "it makes sense to me" is lawless and crazy. We are supposed to be a republic and republics are ruled by laws.
 

Poorboy

Expert Expediter
On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial "large magazines." Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, "to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda," she said.

"I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."



Read more: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar' - Guns - Fox Nation

Yup, That's Obumma's version of Transparency:rolleyes:
 

Ragman

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Retired Expediter
The answer to Woodrow Wilson was Calvin Coolidge the last great american president. I believe he holds the record for presidential vetoes, if not the record he's in the top 5

Yes greg people like you are the problem. Arguing an unconstitutional power grab because "it makes sense to me" is lawless and crazy. We are supposed to be a republic and republics are ruled by laws.

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greg334

Veteran Expediter
The answer to Woodrow Wilson was Calvin Coolidge the last great american president. I believe he holds the record for presidential vetoes, if not the record he's in the top 5

So you read the book?

Yes greg people like you are the problem. Arguing an unconstitutional power grab because "it makes sense to me" is lawless and crazy. We are supposed to be a republic and republics are ruled by laws.

Yes I guess that when I actually sit here behind my keyboard and write letters to my representatives or I go to Washington with a group of people to fight for a change in something, I am part of the problem.

I can't explain this any other way but to just say it.

The first problem is that I'm not for or against a lot of these things that are truly unconstitutional. I rather see the problem as we all have to work within the system we have OR change it to something else in order to get it fixed. I don't want to change it and take a chance of having something worst but on the other hand my fellow citizens, especially those who b^tch about how we are losing our rights need to understand how the system works to change it. A lot of people b^tch and cry about how unconstitutional one thing is or another but will not step up to the plate to at least try to change it, making excuses along the way. That is something that is a problem - lazy people. I've done my part, I put everything on the line for a cause, I worked within the law and am fighting to change that law so others won't face the same issues many of us have faced.

The other problem is many times people want an unfettered life, free from the laws and rules we need to have to live by. As much as I would love to see an 1830 type of world, I shutter to think how bad it would be because of the stupidity that is entrenched in society. Many would not be able to handle it while others would take it to the extreme.

Yes we are supposed to be a republic, and yes we are supposed to have a limited government but what we had and what we have today is cuased by the people and no one else. Everyone is responsible for our country, not one person is exempt and as Eleanor Roosevelt said "Above all, we should accept the fact that democracy requires service from each and every one of us, not just from those who happen to want to volunteer."
 

EASYTRADER

Expert Expediter
Your qouting eleanor roosevelt, seriously. Your definately out of the closet a total pinko if I ever saw one. What's so sad is you think quoting eleanor roosevelt somehow helps your case.

Lol

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greg334

Veteran Expediter
Your qouting eleanor roosevelt, seriously. Your definately out of the closet a total pinko if I ever saw one. What's so sad is you think quoting eleanor roosevelt somehow helps your case.

Well I guess I'm a pinko now?

Too funny

I don't know what quoting Roosevelt has to do with my political position in life, it is rather an applicable quote for that time and that subject as it is now.

If I stand out as a naysayer or as one who always support an opposite point of view that looks like, it is for the sake of forum, not because as you put I'm a closet pinko or fascist. It seems because there are not a lot of differences between the posts by a bunch of the members it looks as if the Parrot Effect has been entrenched and I am all for getting rid of PE where it needs to be gone.

By the way, I didn't randomly pick a quote out of thin air but one that is applicable to the situation we are in. I know the reason she said it, the context of the time it was said, where it was said and what subject it applied to which I can say is a lot more than most. If you need a translation I can even provide that - she meant everyone has to have personal responsibility for not just themselves but also for the country. Pretty much the conservative mantra from what I can see.
 
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