Obama guilty

muttly

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Wrong answer but thanks for playin. at the end of 2006 gas was $3.00. or more a gallon. I don't like obummer either but keep your facts straight. i don't like any of them because their all polititions and we don't need polititions we need statesmen. So quit complainin get in sit down and shut up because it's going to be a long hard ride for everyone except the polititions.
You are taking a particular snapshot in time and giving the price of gas . The average price of gas previous to Obama was much lower.
 

LDB

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Yeah, that's when Obama took over, 2006. :rolleyes: The average in the 5 years since Obama is decidedly higher than the 5 year average before Obama. But you fanboys keep praising him. He needs it. History if accurately presented will do nothing kind for him.
 

LDB

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Yeah, the president can't urge domestic production or anything else that will effect fuel prices.
 

xiggi

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The president has no control over the price of a gallon of regular, or diesel, or of a barrel of oil. Obama doesn't, Busch didn't, none of them have. No matter how hard you try and make it seem like a president has control over the price of oil, or can even influence it a little bit, they don't and they can't. We've been over this already.

While that may be true new emissions policies do have an affect on the price of gas. Fuel prices are not completely due to oil price there is other factors.

Sent from my Fisher Price - ABC 123
 

layoutshooter

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"The whole ordeal sounds like a Government created cluster fudge over a ridiculous law passed for political gain"


WRONG! No law was passed. It was done, as per orders from Obama, through the BATFE, totally bypassing Congress, in other words, bypassing the People. To put it bluntly, showing total scorn for the People and the Constitution. Just as most tin horn dictators do.


 

muttly

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The president has no control over the price of a gallon of regular, or diesel, or of a barrel of oil. Obama doesn't, Busch didn't, none of them have. No matter how hard you try and make it seem like a president has control over the price of oil, or can even influence it a little bit, they don't and they can't. We've been over this already.
Disagree, much more can be done, but it goes against their agenda of moving away from fossil fuels. Not saying Presidents have total control over fuel prices, but they can INFLUENCE them by their policies, such as: Not utilizing all our resources and increasing production significantly on Federal lands and increasing supply. Signing bills that increase spending and causing the Federal Reserve to print money 24/7, thus weakening the dollar. Doing so makes it more expensive to purchase barrels of oil.
Presidents CAN lower gasoline prices - Forbes
 

davekc

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The phones are much better! :)

Off the top of my head:

The economy continues to heal.

Fewer Americans are getting killed every day in misguided wars.

We don't have "terror threat level orange" nonsense to put up with anymore. Remember that farce? Fascist tactics to keep a population off balance and gullible is all that was.

A (somewhat) restored sense of national honor. Torture is beneath us.

A (slightly) more optimistic view of the future as alternative fuels are finally gaining traction. (optimism tempered by knowledge that we've already f-ed the planet up and it will take a long time to heal).

And finally, the GOP is about done for the foreseeable future. Watch the flip-flopping in 2016 as they serve the needs of the Koch brothers and big oil to keep the campaign contributions coming in while trying their best to appeal to the middle, the vast majority of which is now convinced that climate change is happening and they've been lied to and mislead by conservatives. I can't remember ever seeing a political party with such baggage.

We're much better off today, and it keeps getting better.

Interesting. How would you reconcile that with a President at record lows in his approval ratings and a Congress as well, at record lows? The general population "ain't happy".
 

xiggi

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Anytime someone mentions the Koch brothers I lose interest it shows party line drivel instead of a search for truth.

Sent from my Fisher Price - ABC 123
 

Pilgrim

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I never used the word liberal and the president is a moron. There are no suspicious claims. The deal was approved until the WH intervened and quashed it. Whether it is very risky, or equally risky to any other business venture, is a matter of opinion. Blaming the layoff on the failed deal makes complete sense. The deal was approved. The company had a certain number of employees based on the approved deal. When the WH withdrew the approval at the last moment they couldn't keep all the employees. The blame is on the morons who have no clue whatsoever about these particular rifles and whose hatred of guns and gun ownership trumps everything else.
Actually you should have used the word "liberal" with the adjective "radical" preceding it. Maybe the term "moron" doesn't apply, but the damage to the country being done by him and his socialist minions (I really like that term because it connotates a certain sleaziness) is certainly moronic. Barack Hussein Obama made a campaign promise to "fundamentally change" our country and he continues every day to do just that as his policies degrade our economy and standard of living, ruin our health care system, distort the rule of law and constitution to suit his political agenda, while he reduces the USA to nothing more than a paper tiger in the eyes of the rest of the world. History will likely view him as the worst POTUS on record due to the damage his policies and regulations will continue to impose long after he's out of office.

This on-the-fly ban of the importation of these antique American icons was nothing but a political sop to gun control fanatics and Obama's liberal base in an election year, and it's effect on illegal gun availability will be nil. Hopefully the voters of Vermont will remember this in Nov. From 1936 - 1957 over 6 million of these rifles have been produced by various manufacturers and are still readily available to collectors or gun enthusiasts. Their appeal to street gangs and criminals is negligible at best.

M1 Garand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

layoutshooter

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Those rifles were going to go, depending on condition, to either collectors or CMP rifle clubs. The majority of them would have helped keep kids off the streets, spending time with friends and family, learning shooting sports.
 

WanderngFool

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Anytime someone mentions the Koch brothers I lose interest it shows party line drivel instead of a search for truth.

Sent from my Fisher Price - ABC 123

Understandable, but how else does one refer to big oil and the motivation of so many on the right to be climate change deniers? Big oil isn't an abstract notion. There are flesh and blood people that own and control those companies and it's only natural that the politically active Koch brothers spring to find.

I suppose I could substitute a likable guy that was "shooting at some food and up from the ground came a bubbling crude, oil that is, black gold, Texas tea".

But the problem there is Jed is a likeable guy and the Koch brothers, well, what motivates people says so much about them don't you think?
 

LDB

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When Obama took office the average price of a gallon of regular was $1.89.

Wrong answer but thanks for playin. at the end of 2006 gas was $3.00. or more a gallon.

Yeah, that's when Obama took over, 2006. :rolleyes:

Wrong again smart guy he was elected nov of 2008. Roll eyes back atcha:rolleyes:
Do your homework before typing goofy stuff on the keyboard.

I know exactly when he was elected and I didn't type any "goofy stuff" about gas price in 2006 to deflect from the point of Obama's failure.
 

WanderngFool

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Crickets...

I'm not trying to ignore you or your point. If you think Obama is a bad guy in that way I'm not about to argue. But I'm not a constitutional lawyer. Are you? I suppose I could find a liberal website that defends Obama and post that info. While I'm there I could dig up some dirt on Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Dick Cheney, W and others.

But then you'd visit a conservative dirt-flinging site and before you know it, we'd both look like mindless puppets simply repeating what we'd been told.
 

WanderngFool

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Interesting. How would you reconcile that with a President at record lows in his approval ratings and a Congress as well, at record lows? The general population "ain't happy".

Picture this. It's 11am and the Republican candidate (Ted Cruz?) is doing a little fund raising. Big business led by big oil are the ones he's counting on. He's got to deny global warming and talk up increased drilling for oil.

At 2pm he's speaking at a rally attended by a wide range of people. Right, left, old, young, rich, poor, you name it. Deny global warming? Not a chance. He needs their votes and the GOP has to "stop being the stupid party".

He'll be talking out of both sides of his mouth on the same day in the digital age where every moment is recorded.

The only solution that I can see is, as they say, turn it into a parade and get out in front of it. How? In this day and age it wouldn't work any better than Sarah Palin's bridge to nowhere gambit.

But then there's a reason why I drive a truck instead of working for a political organization. :) Still, it's fun to think about this stuff, no?
 
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