Nuts!

[layoutshooter]

$15 per hour? To flip burgers? Are they NUTS? What is wrong with people today? A union? At McDonald's? I bet my no good for nuthin' Obama bum brother was there! HE believes that NO ONE should own a small business. That there should ONLY be large, government approved businesses and that EVERYONE should be REQUIRED to belong to a union. He is as nuts as this bunch is.

If I owned a McDonald's and was "forced" to pay a certain wage, I would shut it down and give them what they are REALLY worth!

[h=1]1-day fast food worker strike comes to Detroit[/h]
DETROIT (AP) -- Workers at a fast food restaurant on Detroit's east side have walked off the job as part of an effort to push for higher wages.


Detroit pastor Charles Williams II says workers want $15 and hour, better working conditions and the right to unionize. The one-day protest starting Friday morning at a McDonald's is one of about 50 that organizers say they've planned around Detroit.


The D15 campaign says many workers make $7.40 an hour or just above it.


A message seeking comment from a representative of the restaurant was left Friday morning by The Associated Press.


Workers at more than 30 fast food restaurants in St. Louis walked off the job Thursday in a similar one-day strike. That followed strikes at fast food chains in New York and Chicago.











1-day fast food worker strike comes to Detroit

 

[xiggi]

The value menu would be 5 bucks an item. Real cost to the employer would probably be 25 an hour.

Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.

 

[layoutshooter]

The value menu would be 5 bucks an item. Real cost to the employer would probably be 25 an hour.

Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.

Does not make much sense, does it? There is no "burger flipper" worth that much per hour. From what is see many of them are too lazy as it is anyway. The McDonald's today are just dirty. People I know that own similar places all complain how the people just don't want to work.

 

[Humble2drive]

From a different but related article:

Dunkin Donuts worker Esly Hernandez, who is paid $8.25 an hour, told Ned Resnikoff that he’s striking for his four-year-old son, both to set an example for him and to be able to afford medically recommended nutrition for the anemic child.

This is a huge part of the problem. Parents setting an example of how you are entitled to things and must demand them instead of working for them.
Funny that he doesn't even have the balz to commit to a real strike. A one day strike is like a child holding their breath until they get what they want.
It won't last long and they aren't getting what they want.

 

[davekc]

Basic supply and demand. If that Big Mac goes to ten bucks to cover the costs, no longer a need for the McDonalds. Those workers will go on welfare and instead of 15 per hour, they will demand 14 since they aren't working. It will be McDonald's fault and they will feel "entitled" to the 14 per hour because McDonald's didn't provide a life time living wage.

 

[layoutshooter]

IF he wanted to set an example for his son he would improve his skill set, get a REAL job and show his son how a MAN supports his family. Those jobs are not worth more than what they pay. They are low skill, low responsibility jobs.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Of low skilled low educated truck driving job ain't worth three bucks a mile either...IMO

 

[layoutshooter]

Of low skilled low educated truck driving job ain't worth three bucks a mile either...IMO

Not many lives endangered by a misflipped burger.

Not many burger flippers take responsibility for multi-million dollar loads or put out a quarter of a million dollars for the truck that can handle that load.

As for low education, speak for yourself.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I'm speaking of a normal truck driver not you you're not normal LOL

 

[layoutshooter]

I'm speaking of a normal truck driver not you you're not normal LOL

Never have been!

It still takes FAR more skill and responsibility to handle a truck on the open road, where lives are at stake, million of dollars freight at stake, than flipping burgers does. Whether they are normal or not!

The ability to handle a rig is a true skill and should be paid as such.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

And food handling and preparation is no joke.... As you said don't be so quick to minimize other people's work

 

[layoutshooter]

And food handling and preparation is no joke.... As you said don't be so quick to minimize other people's work

Sorry bubba, I have done both. Flipping burgers is a "starter" job. A first job. Working at McDonald's is not a brain stressing job for those of normal brain power It's brain numbing.

I worked at a McDonald's. There was NOTHING that was hard. The manager, sure, the flippers? No way. We had to WORK back then too. "Leon", our boss, was TOUGH on us. There is NO WAY our place looked like they do today. Leon would have fired us in ONE SECOND if we worked like they do today.

I only did that for one summer. Even then I knew it was a waste of life to work there. The next summer I was learning how to clean and service heavy equipment at Mount Trashmore. Hard work. I was required to LEARN skills, learn what could get someone killed and was paid accordingly.

 

[xiggi]

And food handling and preparation is no joke.... As you said don't be so quick to minimize other people's work

Ok just commit it do you think md should make 15 an hour?

Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.

 

[Humble2drive]

And food handling and preparation is no joke....

Actually it is a joke if you are relating it to the fast food outlets in America. I was required to go watch a video and take a ridiculous multiple choice test once a year to renew my food handlers card. The Health Inspectors? You don't even want to know.

 

[letzrockexpress]

So let's see if I've go this straight: Mcdonald's is a starter job because it was a starter job for Layoutshooter. I guess, if I believe him, that those who cannot find any other gainful employment should not work at Mcdonald's because for anyone other than somebody starting out it is a low level occupation. I guess, according to Layoutshooter, taking what work you can find is not, in actuality, better than sitting on one's behind collecting government assistance. Furthermore I guess Layoutshooter is a proponent of central planning because he says emphatically, with authority that a Mcdonald's worker is not worth $15.00 per hour! Really Mr. Shooter? What criteria are you basing this on? Is a FEDEX driver or team worth the $2.50 per mile you claim to average? The truth is that if the Mcdonald's burger flipper job is as lowlife a job as you have deemed it to be, it isn't likely to be a very sought after a position. This type of scarcity in the labor pool dictates that the employer might need to pay more if they can't find decent help. The proof will be in the pudding when we find out if the company caves and pays the wage or they cut these individuals loose and start over new. Your understanding of Economics boggles the mind...

 

[layoutshooter]

It only took 3 days.

 

[letzrockexpress]

It only took 3 days.

Actually it's been about 8...I love ya though.

 

[layoutshooter]

Actually it's been about 8...I love ya though.

It does not work any more. Enjoy!

 

[Humble2drive]

Sorry bubba, I have done both. Flipping burgers is a "starter" job. A first job. Working at McDonald's is not a brain stressing job for those of normal brain power It's brain numbing.

I worked at a McDonald's. There was NOTHING that was hard. . .

I only did that for one summer. Even then I knew it was a waste of life to work there.

Wow!
That is a sad testimonial and I hope parents don't teach that attitude to their children. It is only "brain numbing" if you have no ambition to work your way up the ladder.
My first "employment" was with Domino's delivering pizza at age 16. I was a Store Manager during my senior year in high school. One year later I was offered a franchise. I said no thanks because I didn't want a life in the fast food industry.
My friend took the franchise and is a multi-millionaire today.
Dumbest financial decision of my life!!
Many kids today don't even consider working in Fast Food because it is beneath them. Better to have no job at all than to be caught flipping burgers.
That's just plain wrong!

 

[layoutshooter]

Wow!
That is a sad testimonial and I hope parents don't teach that attitude to their children. It is only "brain numbing" if you have no ambition to work your way up the ladder.
My first "employment" was with Domino's delivering pizza at age 16. I was a Store Manager during my senior year in high school. One year later I was offered a franchise. I said no thanks because I didn't want a life in the fast food industry.
My friend took the franchise and is a multi-millionaire today.
Dumbest financial decision of my life!!
Many kids today don't even consider working in Fast Food because it is beneath them. Better to have no job at all than to be caught flipping burgers.
That's just plain wrong!

It is brain numbing. FLIP FLIP. Yes, IF you want to make it a career you CAN move up the ladder. Which is why I said the manager had to do something, not the flippers.

Flipping burgers is a VERY good place to start out in life. It is, in NO way a $15 per hour job. That would drive prices through the roof. It would put many places out of business, margins are too thin.

I also don't look at becoming a multi-millionaire the ONLY goal in life. There are many who make much less, like nurses, or firefighters who do important work and never become rich. They are not flippers either.

I could never pay my people that at Gander Mountain either. The margins were not there to support it. We had to work on a MINIMUM 35% margin, just to pay the bills. IF we had to cover those kinds of wages we would have had to shut the doors. So would McDonald's. There is a point when a burger costs more than people are willing, or can afford, to play.