North Carolina voters reject same-sex marriage.

asjssl

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Bet you don't like them darn blacks either ...

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BigCat

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Bet you don't like them darn blacks either ...

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You are attacking religion in many of your posts here. While I'm not super religious I do have faith. Also you are trying to force us to support gays. I'm not with them or against them, meaning I'm not got to march with them but I'm not going to beat and murder them either.

A question to ask here is, Would you be so defensive if your nephew wasn't gay? Why should we agree and support gay marriage? What happens when a kid with 2 moms or dads get picked on in school for the type of parents they have?

I have seen to many drug addictions and suicides out of children with same sex parents because of the ridicule from class mates with "normal" parents.

Be gay ok it's your life but leave kids out of it.

PS: It's Adam and eve not Adam and Steve.




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mxzane933

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You are attacking religion in many of your posts here. While I'm not super religious I do have faith. Also you are trying to force us to support gays. I'm not with them or against them, meaning I'm not got to march with them but I'm not going to beat and murder them either.

A question to ask here is, Would you be so defensive if your nephew wasn't gay? Why should we agree and support gay marriage? What happens when a kid with 2 moms or dads get picked on in school for the type of parents they have?

I have seen to many drug addictions and suicides out of children with same sex parents because of the ridicule from class mates with "normal" parents.

Be gay ok it's your life but leave kids out of it.

PS: It's Adam and eve not Adam and Steve.


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Lololollollololol omg adam and steve that just rocked my boat good hahaga

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After reading these posts I can certainly see why Obama flipped. With this much talk about gay marriage, he is banking on people forgetting everything else he screwed up.
First it was women rights, then the Martin case, and now you have this.
It almost funny if it wasn't their planned agenda.
 

AMonger

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Agreed. Let's stick to the logical conclusion that it will lead to marrying animals.
Lead to it? No time soon, but eventually. But before that, it will lead to acceptance of pedophilia. Both are deviant, both are sins, both damage all participants, both damage society, both were regarded as vile but have gained acceptance. Homosexuality was regarded as a mental disease until pressure was applied to remove it. The same pressure has begun with pedophilia. It's still early. It won't be accepted anytime soon, but maybe a couple decades. Then if the soapbox still exists, your philosophical and ideological heirs will be arguing for society to accept those poor, misunderstood men who were born that way and just want to be left alone, and who are we to say who can love whom? Yes, you are them in 20 years.
 

AMonger

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Bet you don't like them darn blacks either ...

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Being black is not based on an act. That truly is something you're born with. Being a sodomite is something you do. It's offensive for you to link the two.
 

AMonger

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Heteros engage in some pretty "immoral" and "unsanitary" acts themselves. They're all over the internet.
Here's the difference. While some heterosexual sex might be immoral and unsanitary, ALL homosexual sex is immoral and unsanitary.
The "perversion" amongst gays (as some people feel) will continue whether they marry or not. Many local and state governments have archaic laws on the books banning such contact between people, be they same or opposite sex. Rarely do those laws get enacted. Yet people still go about doing what they want.
However, by pushing for marriage, they seek society's approval, that their perversion is the equal of normal people's sex lives.
They can't have it.
 

AMonger

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I feel sorry for you for feeling this way about gays ..hope you change your mind!!
Don't feels sorry for me...I do a ok with out you religius fakes in my life!!!!!!!!!

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How do you consider my religion fake? My religion coincides with our scripture. Being so, you should consider it genuine, even if you disagree with it.
 

AMonger

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I'm not bullying ...how can any sane individual with a thread of common sense say gay people are sick....
How can any sane or reasonably moral individual say that one man putting his penis into another man's rectum is normal or the equivalent of heterosexual relations? And yes, it is bullying. Gays have moved beyond "leave us be so we can practice our thing in private--we just want to be left alone" to "NOW ACCEPT IT PUBLICLY--SAY IT'S OK! IF YOU DON'T, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU!"
 
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cheri1122

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Lead to it? No time soon, but eventually. But before that, it will lead to acceptance of pedophilia. Both are deviant, both are sins, both damage all participants, both damage society,

All the above are subjective opinion, and yours is not mine.

both were regarded as vile but have gained acceptance.

Saying pedophilia "is gaining acceptance" doesn't make it true
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Homosexuality was regarded as a mental disease until pressure was applied to remove it.

Physicians believed illness was caused by too much blood, 'bad vapors', and all sorts of ridiculous causes at one time - we've learned that they were dead wrong. Their patients were just dead.

The same pressure has begun with pedophilia. It's still early. It won't be accepted anytime soon, but maybe a couple decades. Then if the soapbox still exists, your philosophical and ideological heirs will be arguing for society to accept those poor, misunderstood men who were born that way and just want to be left alone, and who are we to say who can love whom? Yes, you are them in 20 years.

Sex between consenting adults is the only acceptable standard - if either party isn't consenting, or isn't ADULT, it's immoral and illegal.

Every 'argument' against homosexuality [and it's funny, but only those who rail against it use such terms as 'butt buddy' - pretty indicative of where their minds are, methinks], boils down to "Because the Bible says so" and 'tradition'. Neither of which is an acceptable reason to decree what consenting adults may or may not do.
Slavery was accepted, until reason prevailed. Denying women the right to vote was accepted, until reason prevailed. Denying homosexuals the right to marry is accepted by many - but reason WILL prevail.
'Defense of marriage'? That's hilarious, really - almost as good as 'Family Values', lol.
 

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How can any sane or reasonably moral individual say that one man putting his penis into another man's rectum is normal or the equivalent of heterosexual relations? And yes, it is bullying. Gays have moved beyond "leave us be so we can practice our thing in private--we just want to be left alone" to "NOW ACCEPT IT PUBLICLY--SAY IT'S OK! IF YOU DON'T, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU!"

Again .who is saying anything about penis,rectums...your sure Hung up on those things!!!!!..I'm talking about 2 people caring for another...yikes your the pervert here...

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AMonger

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Who said anything about rectums...see your the pervert here I said nothing about that ...so you think gay equals anal sex.. wow see where your mind is....again I think you have some deep down issues do come to.term.with...
Anal sex is part and parcel of homosexual sex, just as penile-vaginal sex is part and parcel of normal sex. Can sex exist apart from it? Yes, but not usually.
And just as you were programed to like the same sex as u claim...gays are born the opposite...so you are going to shun them because ???
You've got some things mixed up in that sentence, but sodomites weren't programmed to be attracted to others of the same sex. It's a defect. If it is inherent, maybe some wires got messed up in the womb, so to speak, or maybe it's the domineering mother/absent father thing. Whatever it is, their urges and their actions are two different matters. If anyone has an urge they say is inherent, and it's rape or arson or murder or bank robbery or whatever, I expect them to withstand their urges our face the consequences. Sodomites have it a little better, in that most people would settle for them doing their thing IN PRIVATE without normal people being exposed to it. But that's not good enough for them, is it?

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asjssl

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Being black is not based on an act. That truly is something you're born with. Being a sodomite is something you do. It's offensive for you to link the two.

There you go ...they were BORN black....people are BORN gay...can't change being black ...can't change being gay ...ok smart *** ...YOU change and go gay....its what your asking of a gay person to just go straight....as vile as you think man on man is that's what they think of man on woman....HELLO!! SO NARROW MINDED!!!!!!!!!

come on go gay ...get a penis and :censoredsign: YOU keep yapping about...ohh can't do it... Well niether can they change....are you getting it yet???

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asjssl

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There you go ...they were BORN black....people are BORN gay...can't change being black ...can't change being gay ...ok smart *** ...YOU change and go gay....its what your asking of a gay person to just go straight....as vile as you think man on man is that's what they think of man on woman....HELLO!! SO NARROW MINDED!!!!!!!!!

come on go gay ...get a penis and :censoredsign: YOU keep yapping about...ohh can't do it... Well niether can they change....are you getting it yet???

You know what is offensive .. is your narrow minded thoughts and hatred of how someone is born...you wouldn't hate a black man for being black...don't hate a person for being gay!!

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LisaLouHoo

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Say "Gay Marriage" as it is currently on the table, is denied broadly; however, "Civil Union" is allowed for gays...which of course marriage in itself is already a civil union...then what about people like Jeff and I who are sharing our lives together but see no reason at our ages and stages of life to marry? Can we get one of them there new-fangled unions, or will our love and compassion and care for one another be discriminated against?

BTW: gays are disgusted by the intimate acts of heteros. That's a two way street.

If homosexuality is a hardwired "defect", then shouldn't gays be shown the same compassion as those people in wheelchairs or leg braces?

Not everyone is going to accept everyone else, be it their sexuality, religion, gender, ethnicity, weight, etc.

That is the real "defect" we all have.
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asjssl

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AMONGER... You go your way hope I never talk to you again people like you I can not take seriously ....evil evil ideas.. goodbye!!!
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cheri1122

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You are attacking religion in many of your posts here.

Religion is the basis for denying homosexual couples the right to marry. And for the kind of namecalling that some engage in. And the derogatory attitude that encourages their children to consider 'gay' to be the absolute worst thing they can call anyone. And for teenagers to prefer suicide to being known [or suspected] of being gay.

While I'm not super religious I do have faith. Also you are trying to force us to support gays.

Not discriminating [let alone the morally despicable name calling] is hardly 'supporting', IMO.
I'm not with them or against them, meaning I'm not got to march with them but I'm not going to beat and murder them either.

Appreciate the self control. :rolleyes: seriously: did you really say that?

A question to ask here is, Would you be so defensive if your nephew wasn't gay?

Defensive? I'm just as certain that denying gays their rights is wrong, and it's not defensive, it's what I know is morally right. And no, I have no gay family members or close friends [that I know of.]

Why should we agree and support gay marriage?

Because it's morally wrong to deny people the right to marry someone they love - [consenting adults].

What happens when a kid with 2 moms or dads get picked on in school for the type of parents they have?

Same thing that happens when kids get picked on/bullied for any reason: we teach them why it's wrong to do it.

I have seen to many drug addictions and suicides out of children with same sex parents because of the ridicule from class mates with "normal" parents.
There's so much wrong with that comment I don't even know where to start. But here's a thought: when we declare that two adults should not be allowed to marry because their children will be bullied, we are a seriously screwed up society.

Be gay ok it's your life but leave kids out of it.

PS: It's Adam and eve not Adam and Steve.

Only in the Bible. If you choose to make that your moral foundation, that's your right - but I have the same right not to.


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BigCat

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People aren't born gay it is something they choose. I hear of guys with wive saying they want to try being with a guy. That is a decision they make. It's NOT how our creator designed us. Not to mention the diseases transferred from homosexuals to one another.

You never answered my question earlier.

Would you be this defensive if it wasn't your nephew?

I think your sickened by it but feel you have to support it and make it not look so bad because of it being family.




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