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LDB

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Absent an extreme change in course of the campaign(s), as distasteful as it may be and is to vote for Romney, voting for Obama either actively or passively is just not an option. Obama and Romney are not the same. They may be somewhat similar but they are not the same. There is bad and there is EVIL. Actively or passively voting for Obama is voting for EVIL. We just must not vote for evil either actively OR passively.
 

layoutshooter

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A vote for Romney OR Obama IS a vote for nobody. A vote for Obama or Romney is a vote to continue the same garbage as we have seen for 50 years. A vote for a 'stock' Republican or Democrat politician will result in 'stock' politics. One cannot continue to do the same thing, day in and day out, year in and year out, decade in and decade out, and expect a different result. It just does not work that way. Look around. SAMEO SAMEO has got us SAMEO SAMEO.
 

xiggi

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It is not my problem. I take care of my wife and myself. That is my responsibility. Right now the greatest threat to that is the government FORCING me to pay for others, driving up the costs for those of us who are responsible and often pricing us out of the market. IF other family members need help, and I have the means, I will try to help them. I do not have the ability to pay for others health care. Charity is a gift given freely. IF I wish to help other's I don't know with medical costs I will do so FREELY or not at all. What we have now is extortion.

Government is responsible for the outrageous cost of health care and it will NEVER go down until they are out of it.

The president should just give a speech and say i talked to los and if you can't pay for your cancer treatment he will loan you his gun. Is that what your saying?

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xiggi

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His TRUE colors are coming out more and more everyday. He is pulling a "McCain" just as I said he would months ago. Romney is as anti-gun as Obama. He is ALL talk, IF elected, he will revert.

Where did you get that crystal ball.

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layoutshooter

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The president should just give a speech and say i talked to los and if you can't pay for your cancer treatment he will loan you his gun. Is that what your saying?

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Nope, I am saying that it is a personal responsibility. IF someone is NOT able to pay they should be taken care of by CHARITY, not extorted money. What is being done now is retarding MY ability to care for my own families needs, which I have done in whole or in part, my entire adult life. IF Romney OR Obama are elected it is unlikely I will be able to afford to provide for my own family. MOST of my health care dollars will be heading for non-producers. NEITHER candidate has shown ANY willingness to even SUGGEST anything other than government subsidized medicine. In other, more honest words, SOCIALIZED, government controlled medicine. Given the governments track record with Medicare and Medicaid and socialist programs in general, I find it AMAZING that ANYONE would want them involved in ANY part of their life. Government health care is just a means of controlling people, nothing more.
 

layoutshooter

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Where did you get that crystal ball.

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Wall Mart. Too bad it does not work when choosing a layover plan!

IF you were to read back over my posts for the past months you WILL see that I have said that Romney was, and is, going to run an almost identical campaign as McCain's. WHY? SAMEO SAMEO. Stock politicians. It are how it are. Unless Romney makes MASSIVE changes he WILL lose. I don't believe he wants to win. If he was TRYING it would no longer even be close.
 

xiggi

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Nope, I am saying that it is a personal responsibility. IF someone is NOT able to pay they should be taken care of by CHARITY, not extorted money. What is being done now is retarding MY ability to care for my own families needs, which I have done in whole or in part, my entire adult life. IF Romney OR Obama are elected it is unlikely I will be able to afford to provide for my own family. MOST of my health care dollars will be heading for non-producers. NEITHER candidate has shown ANY willingness to even SUGGEST anything other than government subsidized medicine. In other, more honest words, SOCIALIZED, government controlled medicine. Given the governments track record with Medicare and Medicaid and socialist programs in general, I find it AMAZING that ANYONE would want them involved in ANY part of their life. Government health care is just a means of controlling people, nothing more.

Im not for government healthcare. Your right about family, friends, charity. But where you miss the boat is if those fail thing it goes city, state, fed. Sure in a perfect world everyone cares for themselves but in that world everyone earns enough to do that. Since they can't then like it or not there needs to be a safety net.

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layoutshooter

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Im not for government healthcare. Your right about family, friends, charity. But where you miss the boat is if those fail thing it goes city, state, fed. Sure in a perfect world everyone cares for themselves but in that world everyone earns enough to do that. Since they can't then like it or not there needs to be a safety net.

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Find a way to do it without the use of force. I GIVE to charity only as I CHOOSE too. That is known as FREEDOM. When the government gets involved they take away choice. They DEMAND. They FORCE. That is slavery. It IS that simple. I have FAR LESS to give to charity because the government has taken SO much from me.

When I GIVE FREELY to the charities I support I give it to those who use MOST of the money for the purpose intended. When the government FORCES me to give most of the money is spent on administration, fraud and waste. EVERYONE loses. There is no safety net.
 

xiggi

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Wall Mart. Too bad it does not work when choosing a layover plan!

IF you were to read back over my posts for the past months you WILL see that I have said that Romney was, and is, going to run an aif lmost identical campaign as McCain's. WHY? SAMEO SAMEO. Stock politicians. It are how it are. Unless Romney makes MASSIVE changes he WILL lose. I don't believe he wants to win. If he was TRYING it would no longer even be close.

I know what you said but again your wrong. He is running to win. What exactly is your campaign experience? if he starts talking like you would like ge will lose. Step one is win the campaign and it take winning independents many of who are moderate to do so.

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layoutshooter

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I know what you said but again your wrong. He is running to win. What exactly is your campaign experience? if he starts talking like you would like ge will lose. Step one is win the campaign and it take winning independents many of who are moderate to do so.

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That is only your OPINION, as is what I wrote. He cannot win independents, he is a liberal. Moderates are already liberal, in today's world. He will NEVER win the vote of a majority of those who want a return to the Constitution, he does not believe in it. He is a mainstream, leftist, politician. One is either FOR the Constitution, or against it. There is NO middle ground there. There only TWO kinds of people, those who will defend the Constitution or those who would destroy it.

ANYWHO, I am going out to start getting my old boat ready to sell. I need to turn it into accessories for the new one! Maybe I can get you out on the new one next spring, that is of course, you could bring yourself ride on a boat bought with hard earned, evil, capitalist money! :p I CHOSE to provide jobs for those who built the boat and trailer in Elkhart, IN. The trickle down works! We will have to argue more latter! :D
 

OntarioVanMan

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That is only your OPINION, as is what I wrote. He cannot win independents, he is a liberal. Moderates are already liberal, in today's world. He will NEVER win the vote of a majority of those who want a return to the Constitution, he does not believe in it. He is a mainstream, leftist, politician. One is either FOR the Constitution, or against it. There is NO middle ground there. There only TWO kinds of people, those who will defend the Constitution or those who would destroy it.

ANYWHO, I am going out to start getting my old boat ready to sell. I need to turn it into accessories for the new one! Maybe I can get you out on the new one next spring, that is of course, you could bring yourself ride on a boat bought with hard earned, evil, capitalist money! :p I CHOSE to provide jobs for those who built the boat and trailer in Elkhart, IN. The trickle down works! We will have to argue more latter! :D

Third option....Those who would change it legally, according to the will of the people....the Constitution is not written in stone...
 

Ragman

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. . . hard earned, evil, capitalist money!

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muttly

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"Uncle Mitty" just ran out of Michigan with his bobbed tail tucked between his legs. Just like that last liberal Republican, McCain. Uncle Mitty SUCKS as bad as Obama.

Would Romney use the U.N., like Obama to circumvent the constitution regarding gun rights? Yes or no. You see they are not the same..
 

layoutshooter

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Would Romney use the U.N., like Obama to circumvent the constitution regarding gun rights? Yes or no. You see they are not the same..

I would put NOTHING past him. He has banned guns in the past, in spite of the Second Amendment of the Constitution. I trust NO Republican nor Democrat. Those parties are BOTH corrupt, owned and ONLY out for their own power and enrichment. They are BOTH leftist and neither gives a flip about what they to TO us in the name of doing FOR us. They BOTH have destroyed any chance of trusting them.
 

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I LOVE the idea that I have an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to own private property, which INCLUDES the wages of my efforts. I have the RIGHT to USE what I EARN to purchase, and own, property. Property of my own choosing. Yep, Capitalism WORKS!
 

blackpup

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Quote from the article

Quote "Many voters might wish that such a ballot option were more than mere symbolism. If I had my way, a plurality or majority vote for NOTA would trigger a special election with new candidates. If people fret that allowing a vote for NOTA casts the election in too negative a light, the ballot line could instead read: “In Favor of a New Election".” Quote

Shake all the rascals up!!.

jimmy
 
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