None of The Above

[davekc]

On Meet the Press Sunday he said he would repeal Obamacare and replace it with his own plan. Those were his exact words. Is his plan a variation of Obama care? Don't know other than he said it would be close to the Ryan health plan. But with MA in the rearview mirror, anything is possible considering what happened there.

 

[davekc]

Having said all that, honestly i think in the long run the US will be better if Obama gets reelected, the quicker the federal government defualts, the quicker we will be rid of it.

Maybe. Depends on what it is replaced with. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[layoutshooter]

Might be a grand thought, but not reality. If someone seeks care in a emergency and has no money, who is going to pay for that if they have nothing to begin with? I don't don't think we are going to let the dying lay in the street.
At the point of emergency care, the "people" are now involved.
Explain to me how you would change that?

It is not my problem. I take care of my wife and myself. That is my responsibility. Right now the greatest threat to that is the government FORCING me to pay for others, driving up the costs for those of us who are responsible and often pricing us out of the market. IF other family members need help, and I have the means, I will try to help them. I do not have the ability to pay for others health care. Charity is a gift given freely. IF I wish to help other's I don't know with medical costs I will do so FREELY or not at all. What we have now is extortion.

Government is responsible for the outrageous cost of health care and it will NEVER go down until they are out of it.

 

[davekc]

I understand what you are saying but unless you leave people dying in the streets, directly or indirectly you will be paying. Even if the government is out of it and insurance pays for it whether electively or by force, you are still paying.

 

[layoutshooter]

I understand what you are saying but unless you leave people dying in the streets, directly or indirectly you will be paying. Even if the government is out of it and insurance pays for it whether electively or by force, you are still paying.

If the system continues as we have them, if Obama or Romney is elected, I will soon be better off on welfare. I would be left with more. Obama is worth 12 million, let him cover it. Leave me alone. I don't have the money. The government, in one form or another, is FORCING me to put out over $35,000 THIS YEAR, JUST to keep my business running as it is now, with NO chance of additional profit to cover those costs. THEN they DEMAND I cover health care for those who can't, or won't accept responsibility for their OWN lives.

You know what? They can just eat my dirty shorts. My tax check pen is out of ink.

 

[davekc]

No...the question will be whether you paid the appopriate tax for the "dirty shorts".
Could be a environmental issue that will require the EPA to get involved.
As to whether one is better off on welfare, we are now the country with the most.
Many have adopted that plan as a career of choice.

Knock up a wife with a couple kids, and you are off to the races.
Lets see.
You get general welfare, ADC, utility assistance, food bank assistance, free cell phone, section 8 housing, free healthcare, School vouchers for so children get free lunches, depending on the state, transportation vouchers and a few others I missed.
Yep.....about 45k a year with benefits. Not that bad.

 

[layoutshooter]

No...the question will be whether you paid the appopriate tax for the "dirty shorts".
Could be a environmental issue that will require the EPA to get involved.
As to whether one is better off on welfare, we are now the country with the most.
Many have adopted that plan as a career of choice.

Nope, did not the the 'dirty shorts' tax. Not to worry, some of the Obama bums/snitches who lurk on the internet will report me. I am SURE the EPA will be knocking on my door soon.

Those who chose to be bums may very well be better off. They avoid responsibility
for their lives and get everything for free. There are FAR more disincentives to working than there are incentives these days.

HEY! I got a GREAT idea. I will STOP paying ALL taxes until the ENTIRE 35K and the profit loss is paid off! THAT WORKS!!!

 

[LDB]

If the choice is hearing the doctor say your chances are basically zero or your chances are 6 to 1 I'm going for the 6 to 1 even if it does suck. It's still better than no chance at all. No matter how long it's argued, no matter how distasteful it is, no matter how much we don't want it, no matter how much we want it a different way it is what it is.

We have no control other than voting for Obama or voting against Obama. Like it or not, distasteful or not, painful or not, the only vote against Obama and the only vote that makes any sense at all no matter how minimal is to vote Mormon not Moron. Doing anything other than voting Romney is voting FOR Obama. No matter how much anyone wants it to not be, no matter how they spin it, no matter how they lie to themselves and/or others, anything other than a vote for Romney is a vote FOR Obama.

Vote Mormon not Moron

 

[layoutshooter]

Well, no matter what happens, we lose. If I vote for Romney and he is elected, I am stuck with someone who I have ZERO use for. If Obama wins I am stuck with someone I have ZERO use for. Heads they win, tails I lose.

Here are all of my options, based on my beliefs.

Vote AGAINST Obama, Romney wins, I lose

Vote AGAINST Romney, Obama wins, I lose

Write in a quality name, Obama or Romney wins, I lose

There is NO possible way for me to win. The outcome is the same.

 

[davekc]

Then do everyone a favor and vote Romney so the rest of us can have a sliver of hope.
If you lose either way, then it doesn't matter. Go for the favor instead.

 

[layoutshooter]

Then do everyone a favor and vote Romney so the rest of us can have a sliver of hope.
If you lose either way, then it doesn't matter. Go for the favor instead.

LOL!! Nice try! When someone covers my losses I will vote for Romney. One favor for another!

 

[zorry]

Just got off the phone with my accountant.
We don't discuss politics.
In passing she said "If Obama wins,we're really screwed. "
That nailed it for me.
I'll cancel out my brother's Obama vote

 

[layoutshooter]

My banker told me NOT to put a new reefer, or even order it, before the election. He told me that IF Obama wins to find a way to get out of business as soon as we can. He said if Romney wins to wait a year or two to see what happens.

 

[davekc]

Then vote for Romney. You MIGHT stand a chance. Or just stay home. A vote for Rosanne Barr or any of the others is a wasted vote as well.
Vote for a no name or Obama and that 35k will look like chicken feed.

 

[layoutshooter]

Then vote for Romney. You MIGHT stand a chance. Or just stay home. A vote for Rosanne Barr or any of the others is a wasted vote as well.
Vote for a no name or Obama and that 35k will look like chicken feed.

I was NOT going to write in Rosanne Barr, I said a QUALITY name. LOL!! I don't think I can drink enough bourbon to make me pull that "R" lever, or hold my nose long enough.

I have to go into the township office and apply for my absentee ballots this week. Even THAT chore will suck the big wazoo!

 

[davekc]

Sorry. There is no QUALITY name that has any chance of winning. You are down to R and O.
You are better off staying at home on the couch.

 

[paullud]

As the dysfunction in Washington gets worse it impacts our quality of representation which leads to more dysfunction. I just watched Patriocracy on Hulu which goes over some of the reasons we have the dysfunction we do and reveals one of the biggest issues is people remaining on the sidelines. The movie finished with a quote from Thomas Jefferson " We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate."

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[davekc]

Have to agree with that.
Almost forgot. He can vote for Gary Johnson. He is giving out free pens.

 

[layoutshooter]

Sorry. There is no QUALITY name that has any chance of winning. You are down to R and O.
You are better off staying at home on the couch.

LOL!!! I find it AMAZING that MY vote is THE vote that is going to make or break the election! I really doubt that is the case or both "Uncle Mitty" and "Bumbling Barry" would BOTH be on the phone trying to win MY vote!

Well, I am NOT going to be able to override all of Obama's fraud votes, I don't know that many dead people.

Tell you what, you get Romney on this forum, even better, Romney AND Obama, and let me question them, live. I would be willing to bet ALL of THEIR money I would not get a straight answer out of either of them. They are politicians, lying and sleazing is part of their genetic makeup.

 

[davekc]

You are too goofy. You wouldn't get a politcian on here to answer anything. I tell you what, you get whomever you are supporting, and get them on here.
Maybe some would change their minds.
Guess what? Not going to happen. Like I said, you are better off on the couch.
But I wouldn't complain if what you get isn't what you seek.