New Jersey mandates snow-free vehicles

steven3b

Seasoned Expediter
id i hurt ur pride today remember u drive a commerical vehicle just the way u do a four wheeler all the way back to ur tricyle oh but most of u think they give out angle wings when ur a trucker:eek:
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
id i hurt ur pride today remember u drive a commerical vehicle just the way u do a four wheeler all the way back to ur tricyle oh but most of u think they give out angle wings when ur a trucker:eek:

It's never too late to try Hooked On Phonics . Are angle wings something like Airtabs ?
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
Steven , with all the respect !
you have started very well on here .
your last few comments are way off the issue on hand .
let's not make it personal.
this forum is very good in helping Expediter to be safer drivers ,
it's about passing on experience , good advice ,and ton of needed Information.
it make us all safer .

this is not about safety ,
if you , or anyone else can come up with a reasonable way for trucks to be in compliance with this law ,
WE WILL BE .

with the new CSA2010 , getting this ticket ,or any other, regardless of the fine ,can easily send a trucker to the unemployment line . for doing nothing wrong.
it's not like we can fix it.

as for some of your latest's concerns ,
many of us , myself included , have came on here in the pasts , and will be the first to admit , that our driving skills have changed dramatically when we got the CDL , the training ,and a year of driving experience .
we do not drive our trucks the way we used to drive our cars .

This industry is Extremely regulated , we Del. safety day in and day out ,
and we do not miss our target in 150 mil. like some pilots do !!!
 

Screech

Not a Member
I received my angle wings and they screwed up my order. I now have one acute angle wing and one obtuse.
 
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Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
So are laws about lights and bad brakes,,But when was the last time you see a 4 wheeler getting a ticket for a light out,,or going thru a brake inspection? Or do you just drive during the daylight?
This is bout revenue enhancement from the trucking industry nothing else..These law makers dont care about you or your safety otherwise 4 wheelers would be regulated as much as the trucks.
Biggest thing ya gotta worry about is maybe your paint getting scratched but remember we all ready have laws saying you need insurance so thats not an issue.
Yep we need more laws out here,,they cant enforce what they got now.
I've seen plenty of 4 wheelers stopped for lights out in Massachusetts and don't have anything even slightly obstructing the license plate . I have seen tickets written for a hitch ball obscuring plate . When I lived in MA they had safety and emissions inspections in the spring and fall . If you bought a used vehicle you'd better get a new inspection because if you were stopped for any reason they would check the number on the inspection sticker against the license plate . In MA the plate stays with insurance holder , not the vehicle . If insurance expires registration is revoked .
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
This is all about the money ,
here's why :
if it was about the safety , the vehicle need to be putt out of service .
the way it's set up , the driver will get a ticket , and be on his way .
don't expect to see cruisers standing by on the side of the road , waiting for the driver to clear the snow.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
If they were NICE troopers they would help!! You can be sure the governor will be out there helping!! :rolleyes:
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
This is all about the money ,
here's why :
if it was about the safety , the vehicle need to be putt out of service .
the way it's set up , the driver will get a ticket , and be on his way .
don't expect to see cruisers standing by on the side of the road , waiting for the driver to clear the snow.

But if a trooper ticketed a driver and let him continue couldn't the trooper be held liable if the snow caused damage further down the road ?
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
I did not read anything about OOS !
there is a rezone :
states cannot override federal rag's .
and you are correct .
one day a smart trucker will take it to court .

one of my neighbor's in M.N , got a DUI about 3 years ago , after getting the ticket , he asked the officer if he can move the car 20 feet to the side of the road ,where the guard rail ends ,which the officer agreed to .
then in court the DUI was dismissed .
then in another court , the officer was personally responsible ,for letting a Drunk drive a car .
 

Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
How would a determination be reached when the truck has an amount of snow that has to be removed ? What about the snow that then ends up on the ground ? It is then an obstacle and hazard . Who would be responsible for resulting damage and the cost of its removal ?
 

Wingnut

Seasoned Expediter
Steven3b: What kind of vehicle do you drive and how long have you been an expediter? I'd also like to know if you have a CDL and if so, how long have you had it?
Maybe I missed something in this new law but I wonder what the height limit is in regards to the snow & ice build up before the cops can give you a ticket? If there is no set limit then this could open up a bigger can of worms. I agree with all of you, this law is a joke & nothing more than a big $$$$ grubbing effort. I predict many lawsuits from people who fall off their trucks/trailers when trying to remove the snow & ice while complying with this new law.
 
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