Maybe Obamacare is good for America.

[davekc]

but like mine there is a maximum out of pocket expenses line....mines $7250 that isn't so hard on a payment plan...

Maybe depending on one's income. One also has to be mindful that is for one year. What about the following year? That is why it can turn ugly for some very quickly.

 

[Brisco]

The use of the word "too" indicates that you think Brisco is an expediter. He's not. Never has been. He sells used office furniture, and it's a position that enables him to sit atop his high and mighty perch so as to be able to kick someone when they are down, and to be able to consider himself a "real trucker" because he once drove a dually pickup truck pulling an RV. He doesn't have to have a sense, understanding or concern for humanity, because it is you who should be awed and grateful that he would take the time to grace you with his presence, not only in these forums, but on this planet. You should worship the used high-back, executive leather, swivel office chair he sits in.

You might want to add that Brisco has Real Life Experience in Trucking....Of which SOME Expediting covers.....which he can bring forth to Help Others.....and NOT just some over Educated "Book Smart" Cargo Van Driver that expresses his so called "knowledge" as actual experience.

You also forgot to mention that I also have Experience in Hauling Hazardous Materials (Chemicals) with a Full Blown Class A CDL with HazMat Endorsements back in the late 80's after my Military Service.

And....Not only did I "Pull RV's" with a Dually Wheel Pickup.....of which I spent the least amount of time doing during my Trucking Career.......but I also ran for 3rd Party Logistics Companies in the Automotive Freight Industry (seems like that Used to be ALL Expediting WAS at one time) under my OWN Authority as a True IOO.....and not some Over Glorified "Contract Driver"........of which I believe is the EXTENT of YOUR Experience behind the wheel of a Truck..........Am I Right????

I believe when it comes down to it..........You have the wool pulled over many peoples eyes around here with what Knowledge you bring forth when it comes to Trucking Related Issues.....but MOST of us know the Majority of what you seem to think you know comes from what you read about.....research.....and 2nd - 3rd hand experiences you attempt to express as your own experiences.

Sure......I sell Furniture Today.........that's never been disputed....but to Question my Actual Experience.......and to Question my Commitment to Keeping up with Trucking in General......just shows your Biased Ignorance.......or possible Secret Admiration......for how well I am able to Dispute what little Experience you actually have when it comes to Trucking.

Sad.......Really Sad..........that Such Brilliance that I have come to Learn about......and actually Admire for that Brilliance (somewhat).....has chosen to waste away that Brilliance by sitting in a Cargo Van as a Mediocre Contract Driver.

But again........Those that CAN......DO. I've ALWAYS been a Go GETTER......and Successful at what I work hard at. That's why I'm not in Trucking Right Now.......Then there's those that COULD.......but because of certain Personality Disorders......Choose to sit all alone in a Cargo Van all day....every day.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Maybe depending on one's income. One also has to be mindful that is for one year. What about the following year? That is why it can turn ugly for some very quickly.

Mine is NOT the Marketplace web site...direct from BC....

 

[davekc]

Mine is NOT the Marketplace web site...direct from BC....

But the issue with deductibles as in my last post would be the same would they not? A policy outside of the network works the same way.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

But the issue with deductibles as in my last post would be the same would they not? A policy outside of the network works the same way.

I have absolutely no experience with this....never had to buy insurance before....I don't know a good deal from a bad one...

 

[cheri1122]

I don't know. I DO know, for a fact, that everyone who had SS deducted from their checks were denied the use of those funds for planning their own retirement. The excuse that government could do it better has been proven wrong beyond any doubt.

Before SS began, people could invest and save for the years when they'd no longer be able to work. They didn't do a very good job of it, though. Whether through stupidity or just bad luck, too many elderly were left homeless, hungry, and chronically ill for either the existing charities or society in general to cope with, and SS was the extremely popular solution.
Not everyone is even competent at making investment decisions, and not every firm created to 'guide' them is honorable.
And back in the day, investments didn't come with any guaranteed returns, either - it was always a gamble, and one could lose it all.
SS wouldn't have been created if private means were doing the job well enough.

 

[davekc]

I have absolutely no experience with this....never had to buy insurance before....I don't know a good deal from a bad one...

That is exactly what they (being the government) are hoping for.

 

[davekc]

Before SS began, people could invest and save for the years when they'd no longer be able to work. They didn't do a very good job of it, though. Whether through stupidity or just bad luck, too many elderly were left homeless, hungry, and chronically ill for either the existing charities or society in general to cope with, and SS was the extremely popular solution.
Not everyone is even competent at making investment decisions, and not every firm created to 'guide' them is honorable.
And back in the day, investments didn't come with any guaranteed returns, either - it was always a gamble, and one could lose it all.
SS wouldn't have been created if private means were doing the job well enough.

The 1935 Act provided for "old age" or retirement benefits, aid to dependent children, disability insurance, and unemployment insurance. Payments were made in lump sums until 1940 when a monthly payment system was put into place. And, it was paid for by workers. Workers made contributions to a trust fund ("Fund") from their paychecks to pay for the retirement and other benefits they'd need in the future. Today, unemployment is done as a separate item. Extended actually to almost double the original intent. Canada I think goes only 50 weeks someone mentioned, and we are at 99 weeks and some wanting to extend it another 12 weeks to a year.

 

[Humble2drive]

But again........Those that CAN......DO. I've ALWAYS been a Go GETTER......and Successful at what I work hard at.

Dude!! You just admitted that you can't even afford a used boat.

BTW- Since you felt justified in belittling another E.O. Member for taking your boat money away could you please share how much your taxes increased for 2013 and the specific amount of that increase that went toward the Obamacare subsidies which did not exist?

 

[layoutshooter]

Before SS began, people could invest and save for the years when they'd no longer be able to work. They didn't do a very good job of it, though. Whether through stupidity or just bad luck, too many elderly were left homeless, hungry, and chronically ill for either the existing charities or society in general to cope with, and SS was the extremely popular solution.
Not everyone is even competent at making investment decisions, and not every firm created to 'guide' them is honorable.
And back in the day, investments didn't come with any guaranteed returns, either - it was always a gamble, and one could lose it all.
SS wouldn't have been created if private means were doing the job well enough.

Yeah, it is SO good it is bankrupt. Trillions are missing. Less is now coming in than going out and we have to borrow to make the payouts. Payouts will be cut. People will STILL have nothing. The is NO guarantee with SS either. ALL we have paid in has been spent/lost and or stolen. The ONLY difference is the other way, when people screwed up, it was not by force. We had NO option. Pay or jail was it. That is freedom?

 

[cheri1122]

Yeah, it is SO good it is bankrupt. Trillions are missing. Less is now coming in than going out and we have to borrow to make the payouts. Payouts will be cut. People will STILL have nothing. The is NO guarantee with SS either. ALL we have paid in has been spent/lost and or stolen. The ONLY difference is the other way, when people screwed up, it was not by force. We had NO option. Pay or jail was it. That is freedom?

Freedom: it means whatever you say it means. And it's quite possibly the single most overused word in existence today.
The problems with SS are not inherent in the program, but in the politicians who have been unable to resist "borrowing" from it, and a populace that let it happen. If they could have prevented it, which is debatable.
The problem is that in politics, no one has to be accountable for what transpired before they were elected. Those who are guilty simply move on to another high paying job/career/office, and taxpayers are left holding the bag.
Still, you cannot dispute my actual point: SS was designed to solve a real problem, and if the politicians had done their jobs, it would still be working. That they did not is not the fault of the program itself. Getting rid of the program will therefore not make the problem go away, but put us back to where we were when it began: elderly people dying of malnutrition, disease, and exposure.
You've said nothing to refute that.

 

[cheri1122]

The 1935 Act provided for "old age" or retirement benefits, aid to dependent children, disability insurance, and unemployment insurance. Payments were made in lump sums until 1940 when a monthly payment system was put into place. And, it was paid for by workers. Workers made contributions to a trust fund ("Fund") from their paychecks to pay for the retirement and other benefits they'd need in the future. Today, unemployment is done as a separate item. Extended actually to almost double the original intent. Canada I think goes only 50 weeks someone mentioned, and we are at 99 weeks and some wanting to extend it another 12 weeks to a year.

I'd be really happy to see unemployment cut, but only because the need for it is reduced. We watched all the jobs that provided a middle class life get sent overseas, in the name of higher profits, and now the politicians are complaining about how much it costs to keep people on unemployment. We welcomed WalMart with all kinds of special tax breaks and subsidies, and now we are subsidizing their employees, too, who don't earn enough to pay for basic needs.
Where are we heading with all this? How stable and productive can we [society] be if most adults have to work 2 jobs just to live? And how do those adults make their lives better if they're exhausted all the time? How do they raise their kids, if they're always at work?
It's going to get ugly, I think.

 

[letzrockexpress]

You might want to add that Brisco has Real Life Experience in Trucking....Of which SOME Expediting covers.....which he can bring forth to Help Others..

Glad to hear that Bri.... When will you be sharing it? That's some chip you're carrying around on those broad shoulders of yours. Why do you care so much what people think of you?

 

[usafk9]

Glad to hear that Bri.... When will you be sharing it? That's some chip you're carrying around on those broad shoulders of yours. Why do you care so much what people think of you?

Hey! Ease up. He's had a "full blown" CDL (I think that means to completion) AND had hazardous materials....chemicals, don't ya know.

Wait.....on second thought, since he works for a relative, he's probably not even a REAL furniture salesman. More like a wannabe, or a contract salesman.

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[OntarioVanMan]

I'd be really happy to see unemployment cut, but only because the need for it is reduced. We watched all the jobs that provided a middle class life get sent overseas, in the name of higher profits, and now the politicians are complaining about how much it costs to keep people on unemployment. We welcomed WalMart with all kinds of special tax breaks and subsidies, and now we are subsidizing their employees, too, who don't earn enough to pay for basic needs.
Where are we heading with all this? How stable and productive can we [society] be if most adults have to work 2 jobs just to live? And how do those adults make their lives better if they're exhausted all the time? How do they raise their kids, if they're always at work?
It's going to get ugly, I think.

Higher profits?...really?.....Darn straight....how much does an American need to live?....and get real....lets not include the always eating out and having 2 cars having kids in every program going for recreation you know soccer, baseball, ballet lessons..the real important stuff......the job of a company is to make a profit...like YOUR job...make a profit..Americans have to get back to basics and live within thier means...if you can't afford it...you make do without...period...give me a break...when Unemployment expires that is it....Does Load 1 make up a phoney load and pay you, just so you can live?...that is exactly what the government is doing by extending the benefits...a hungry person will go and find a job ANY job create the need and they WILL work.....hand them someone else's money and they won't....

 

[LDB]

Higher profits?...really?.....Darn straight....how much does an American need to live?....and get real....lets not include the always eating out and having 2 cars having kids in every program going for recreation you know soccer, baseball, ballet lessons..the real important stuff......the job of a company is to make a profit...like YOUR job...make a profit..Americans have to get back to basics and live within thier means...if you can't afford it...you make do without...period...give me a break...when Unemployment expires that is it....Does Load 1 make up a phoney load and pay you, just so you can live?...that is exactly what the government is doing by extending the benefits...a hungry person will go and find a job ANY job create the need and they WILL work.....hand them someone else's money and they won't....

S.D. and a brilliant wife are doing this guy a world of good! Hi Ken.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Higher profits were only part of the reason our jobs went overseas. We are now predominantly a service based society for a reason. It's called globalization.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

S.D. and a brilliant wife are doing this guy a world of good! Hi Ken.

Even Canadians have a work ethic...we may have handouts but we too expect someone to pull their weight......although every society has the bloodsuckin, take all the freebees, find all the loopholes lazy arses.....

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Higher profits were only part of the reason our jobs went overseas. We are now predominantly a service based society for a reason. It's called globalization.

so true Hawk....imagine 20 yrs ago...never did auto parts come from Turkey, Egypt, S Africa....the world is getting smaller and America now has to share, compete like never before...

 

[Tennesseahawk]

so true Hawk....imagine 20 yrs ago...never did auto parts come from Turkey, Egypt, S Africa....the world is getting smaller and America now has to share, compete like never before...

Has nothing to do with competition, as far as I'm concerned. We have the capability to produce goods used here, here in the US, for cheaper than it would cost to set up shop in China, and ship them here. Certain forces are preventing that from happening... number one being the government's overtaxing and overregulation. Now why do you think the government would forgo collecting more money on stuff produced here, than they are on stuff from China? The answer to that has a lot to do with who profits from the middle class disappearing in the US. As is with many answers pertaining to government, you'll find it if you follow the money and power.