48 degrees, feels like 41...no wonder I had to turn the Espar on....gee whiz...
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guido4475
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Caryn beat you to the 12 noon deadline....was just loading the gun....lol...Does anybody pay attention to what my driver profile information has on it? .......No NYC....especially this close to a holiday weekend, not that I need to go home, or want to, ......betcha I got a turndown on this one...Thank you, John, for you're concern. Really. I appreciatte it alot.
Well for what it's worth it didn't have any note on your truck about no NYC, but I just added one. Do not show a turn down in either. Of course on a holiday weekend it would probably be an easy place to get in and around.
Here is a question for the group. How should the company handle layovers if trucks have notes like No Northeast or things like that, that limit the companies ability to load you? Just asking.
EnglishLady
Veteran Expediter
A tricky one for sure, but seeing as we advertise 48 States then we should either do the 48 States of forfeit layover, if for example the "Northeast" is the only available load.
guido4475
Not a Member
If I click fleetvision, then vehicles, then idle and workload history, it shows in driver turn downs the load turndown. I can't find where I saw it, but somewhere I saw it on fleetvision no NYC...last week. I'll run upstate NY all day long. We do good out of there, as well as the northern new England states. But I did my time in NYC. Running dedicated for a year 3 times a week to JFK to Cleveland and back..don't want no part of it anymore...sorry..to be so selective on this.I hated to say no to this after sitting so long.I'm sure I was the talk upstairs for awile..
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Load One is joining with Detroit radio station 96.3 and local residents to help support the relief efforts for Oklahoma.
On Friday, Saturday and Sunday, they will be accepting donations to fill help fill our 53 ft "Patriot Trailer" in the parking lot of the Democratic Club of Taylor, 23400 Wick Road.
Volunteers will be on hand from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Items needed are bottled water, non-perishable food, baby items, diapers, formula, baby food and personal adult items.
Dog and cat food as well as gas cards and cash will be accepted.
On Friday, Saturday and Sunday, they will be accepting donations to fill help fill our 53 ft "Patriot Trailer" in the parking lot of the Democratic Club of Taylor, 23400 Wick Road.
Volunteers will be on hand from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Items needed are bottled water, non-perishable food, baby items, diapers, formula, baby food and personal adult items.
Dog and cat food as well as gas cards and cash will be accepted.
They may have showed a note in a turn down saying you didn't want NYC on that load. I have since added it to your truck profile.
What I have noticed with the new bid teams are new areas seem to be opening up. As I only do cross border it's nice to see there's more than just the Detroit to Toronto corridor. Ontario's a big province. :thumbup:
I have nothing to add about notes or turn downs.
I have nothing to add about notes or turn downs.
ebsprintin
Veteran Expediter
It depends on how a vehicle signed on. Canada--yes or no. Hazmat--yes or no. 2 or 3 pallet. Most don't sign on as no NYC or home every weekend. When I add a personal restriction I consider it as restricting myself as well. It does get slimy when the carrier uses a personal restriction against a driver. At a previous carrier, I could say I was heading a certain direction and it was guaranteed I would get two or more long load offers in the opposite direction faster than I ever got load offers, which would hit my turndown rate. I started using it against them, but it was still a slimy practice. I despise NYC. For a year twice a month, I had 14 pick ups and deliveries on one day through out Manhattan and Brooklyn in the middle of an OTR route while driving a large straight. I don't have a NYC restriction, but I do turn it down from time to time and accept the consequences. Last week I took two NYC loads (Saturday loads) and it made my week (maybe my month). As long as I can see the carrier bending over backwards for me, I figure I can bend a little too.
In short--if I tie dispatch's hands, I waive my board position and dwell time.
eb
In short--if I tie dispatch's hands, I waive my board position and dwell time.
eb
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There isn't an easy answer to this one. I don't have restrictions on my trucks. I tell the drivers that they can decide if they want to go to NYC or Canada since those are the usual restrictions.
That said, I understand those that do not want to go to certain areas because they end up sitting and usually deadheading out. Maybe if the layover criteria was changed, it would be beneficial to everyone.
Say a truck delivers in PA, a known dead area, starts his 10 hour break. If dispatch cannot find a load within that 10 hour period, use the layover pay and empty move pay to get the truck back to a freight lane rather than let it sit for two days or beyond. If the truck is in a freight lane, usual layover requirements would apply. If trucks still have restrictions with this policy, don't pay them the layover pay. Layover pay and empty move pay are benefits not requirements.
In my opinion, being proactive is better than stagnant. Challenge dispatch! Challenge the drivers! It's better than griping about each other.
My $.02
If freight lanes were that predictable it would be easy. But to be honest they change constantly. A good area today is a slow area tomorrow and vice versa. The other part is that we are adding sales reps pretty steadily now (2 more in the last 45 days) so we need them doing their part. Also hard to book an expedite while a truck is down for hours because most loads do not give you that kind of lead time.
I would think that personal restrictions aren't not much of an issue with regard to the company being limited on loading you, unless those restrictions are unreasonable. For example, I don't think it's unreasonable to restrict yourself from accepting a load to Key West if the company has no reasonable expectation of getting you loaded out. It's the same reason that some carriers won't even bid on or accept loads to, say, Edmonton, Alberta, in effect limiting the load options to the driver by not even offering it to him in the first place. Granted, you generally have to bid those rather high, since it takes a lot of extra money to get people to take those loads (Panther and their never-ending pool of clueless newbies being the exception, of course), but a carrier restricting themselves from bidding on those loads really isn't any different than a driver restricting themselves on where they'll go.
It's temping to have them put in my file "No KC" because a load to Kansas City means a virtual automatic deadhead to St Louis. But that's really an unreasonable restriction, and someone with a KC restriction who gets a load offer to KC should get a turndown and lose their layover pay because of it. Any load that's in the normal realm of daily operations should be tied to layovers and turn-downs. Any loads that are outside that realm should be exempt from layover determinations and turn-downs. As the daily realm expands, the restrictions should shrink.
Having a "No NYC" restriction isn't an unreasonable restriction, as it should have minimal impact on an expedite carrier's ability to load their trucks. Loads going to NYC are "special circumstance" loads, requiring far more aggravation and hassle than normal expedite loads, and should likewise incur "special circumstance" pay to compensate for that. If customers want it there badly enough, they'll pay whatever it takes to get it there. Most will, because they know how difficult it can be to get it there.
I do know, without even asking him, that if the loads pays enough, even Guido will take it to 5th Avenue in Manhattan for a Monday 9AM delivery. If it pays enough. But if it pays standard tariff rates, fuggetaboutit.
Don't really have an opinion. I guess a turn down is a turn down. If we don't want it we don't do it and just take the lump. We will do NYC but it has to pay really,really good. Northeast the same. We did put no NYC on our screen when we came aboard with a note unless all else fails but it was never typed in cause we have always got calls. So we just say no and don't worry about it. It's only a problem if you complain after turning one down. Just my two cents.
xxiv24
Expert Expediter
Last week I got a load picking up in eagle pass going to Toledo. I had to d/h 149 miles to get the load. I got to eagle pass several hours early. Went shopping and got into the truck to find a place to wait. A few minutes later the load cancelled. Despite the fact that I was there, I got no attempt because I was told was there way too early. Rather than sit in eagle pass, I then went another 120 miles to laredo. End result of the day? 270 d/h free of charge and truck got no attempt for load cancelling. Not to mention the hours lost for potential loads.
The next load had me d/h from laredo to Brownsville going to el paso. Where I spent the rest of the weekend.
Most companies do not pay layover. This one does. It was that layover which covered the eagle pass fiasco and softened the blow. If I am somewhere east of the miss I use that 2 days layover to move to a better spot. Out west it is to far away from our freight lanes to move on 100.00 bucks. So stubbornness occurs and we sit.
I say this because there is nothing wrong with your current layover system. Please,
If it isn't broke, don't fix it!
I have nothing intelligible to offer for the restriction dilemma, except that we are contractors. If it is a noted restriction like nyc then one shouldn't be penalized for it.
After all, it is the contractor limiting his own options, not the company.
Also, the unit sits out here for days making nothing and spending money. It is our agreement with you, sir, to haul your freight. Even with restrictions.
IMHO, of course...
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