It won't happen without pro-active action. Do we have to write congress? The gasoline companies sure wont lower the prices on their own. $110 for a barrel of oil as of the last price increase. A week long strike by the truck drivers will surely bring notice. the larger cities like newyork, chicago, los angeles, houston and others and the corporate world will take notice. higher fuel surcharges will not solve the problem. all thats happening is more and more inflation. Fuel prices effect everything and it has been rising and has risen faster than the economy can handle. Something will give. Look at the value of our dollar now. Nothing has increased in percent for price as fast as oil prices effecting fuel,gas and home heating costs.
Lower fuel prices
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nightcreacher
Veteran Expediter
no strike needed,just run 55 to 60,you will be saving fuel,and oil companies will have to lower there prices.if you must drive your car,no unnessasary moves,car pool,we can do this,lets get-r-done
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
I agree with Steve. I don't think a strike will help. Mainly because it's not feasable. I mean there is no way you could get every trucker to agree to a strike and if you could you couldn't them to agree on when to strike and for how long. Plus who is going to be the lead spokesperson of this strike? There is no leadership there. There may be people who could handle the role, but most of them wouldn't want to hassel with it. Most people in America have a let other people worry about it attitude. I'm not saying don't do anything, but a strike isn't it. Plus since you are non-union a strike could cause many to lose their jobs, and the trucking companies would most likely give their company drivers a hard time when they came back. They would loose money and the employee drivers would feel the backlash among others.
Just like when people tell me they have a problem with HOS, and say things can't get done running legal. I tell them the best thing to do is run legal. Then if freight starts backing up on these big manufacter's docks they will contact Reps. and Sens. and then they will take notice.
Just like when people tell me they have a problem with HOS, and say things can't get done running legal. I tell them the best thing to do is run legal. Then if freight starts backing up on these big manufacter's docks they will contact Reps. and Sens. and then they will take notice.
let's pick one oil company and not buy fuel from them lets exon mobile
or shell and not buy after there product seem tobe not be moving something may happen
also don't idle the truck if you don't need it
you will be saving three way's
fuel, oil changes and keep air a little cleaner
drive the speed limit and keep a tight log to
or shell and not buy after there product seem tobe not be moving something may happen
also don't idle the truck if you don't need it
you will be saving three way's
fuel, oil changes and keep air a little cleaner
drive the speed limit and keep a tight log to
Picking one company will have no effect. That just means buying from B rather than from A. National sales figures will be no different, only those from specific vendors. As already mentioned, slow down and quit idling unnecessarily. Run 62 instead of 72. That's about 1mpg better mileage. How many trucks are sitting in truckstops idling when it's about 60-75 outside? That's a HUGE amount of fuel.
Coco
Seasoned Expediter
Steve is right. We have the ability to create an oil glut. We are all given our runs based on 45-50 mph and the option of calling in if we are running late due to circumstances beyond our control. Just s=l=o=w d=o=w=n, this will also increase your bottom line and make for safer driving.
Story time: During that last storm we drove for about 4 hours thru KY and ohio and Ind. and the result was an amazing 27.34 MPG!! that was about 45-50 mph. At 55mph it was 26.15 mpg compare this to and average of 22-23mpgs at highway speed.
My point is...We could back up the pipeline so badly just by slowing down. If we backed it up by just 20% a day...the surplus would be huge...We might even be able to knock the socks off some of them speculators before they were able to sell their unneeded oil. Think about that! We could pull this off and NOT hurt ourselves AND put some bucks back into our pockets.
My point is...We could back up the pipeline so badly just by slowing down. If we backed it up by just 20% a day...the surplus would be huge...We might even be able to knock the socks off some of them speculators before they were able to sell their unneeded oil. Think about that! We could pull this off and NOT hurt ourselves AND put some bucks back into our pockets.
Let me see;
Steve ya gots $6500 bucks for a run to CA. and Ur weeks not over so U couldnt shut down for a week.
I agree with slowing down I have Hey Im not paying for the fuel but doing My part for In this Skid Row Trucking Business of which so it seem Trucking has been given a new Name Skid Row Tucking.
I make good monie when its good but as everyone knows when ya sit or hit the wall u dont make Crap.
Oil Prices well, If the Trucks stop running then it will bring the nation to its Knees. However I guess they will just higher mexican drivers to run the freight. with the way prices are now it cost darn near 80 cents a mile to run a truck and that dont include Tolls. I see a lot of cheap Freight out there and seen it post on here for 1.48 amile ect get outa here. For a Tractor Trailer.
YA Steve UR right to many worried about shutting down but then agan whats owner OPS like Ur self going to do run that Cheapo Freight for UR Companies???
IF ya dont well they will just higher Mexican Drivers to do it. Hey the real deal is Crack the President and The Dum Congressmen and Senators alike in the head and let these scum bums know we had enough of there high priced BS.
U said it UR self freight hasnt changed in 10 years or better. Well Why is that??
However Fuel has big time. That Fuel Surchage U get its a joke ok well give u fuel surcharge but guess what the overall price offered stays the same. hmmm ya ur getting more. The Truth UR getting taken to the Cleaners by UR Companies.
They dont give two sheets to the wind about U or I , only that they sit behind a stinking desk and get the JAbrawnes and Jamokes to take their cheap freight.
Now Dont we all feel Crunchy.
Now how many people have u watched thus far get out of the business because of the FUEL Prices. THE country BIG WIGS are slowely getting what they wanted in the first Place.
The Industry will be flooded with the Mexican Drivers as they will run the Frieght for ELCHEAPO.
They can Bring the Price of Fuel down to a 1.50 a gallon just get rid of that riduculos stupid Fuel TAXES State and FED.
The next thing, open up our reserves again.
There aint no shortage thats a bunch of BS. & were suppose to buy off on that.
One last thing Bush made the mistake by taking Sadam out he should have stayed the course and stayed after Bin Lauden.
Sadam was black marketing oil to France Germany and Spain and Italy. Kept the Price down. Hmm
As long as Their is a Dick and Bush or Hillary around were going to have Problems.
Grab the shovels and lets get rid of the dukey.
Im trying to be polite.
Have a nice day all.
No Chains Allowed
ICEROADTRUCKER
RIdge Runner
Steve ya gots $6500 bucks for a run to CA. and Ur weeks not over so U couldnt shut down for a week.
I agree with slowing down I have Hey Im not paying for the fuel but doing My part for In this Skid Row Trucking Business of which so it seem Trucking has been given a new Name Skid Row Tucking.
I make good monie when its good but as everyone knows when ya sit or hit the wall u dont make Crap.
Oil Prices well, If the Trucks stop running then it will bring the nation to its Knees. However I guess they will just higher mexican drivers to run the freight. with the way prices are now it cost darn near 80 cents a mile to run a truck and that dont include Tolls. I see a lot of cheap Freight out there and seen it post on here for 1.48 amile ect get outa here. For a Tractor Trailer.
YA Steve UR right to many worried about shutting down but then agan whats owner OPS like Ur self going to do run that Cheapo Freight for UR Companies???
IF ya dont well they will just higher Mexican Drivers to do it. Hey the real deal is Crack the President and The Dum Congressmen and Senators alike in the head and let these scum bums know we had enough of there high priced BS.
U said it UR self freight hasnt changed in 10 years or better. Well Why is that??
However Fuel has big time. That Fuel Surchage U get its a joke ok well give u fuel surcharge but guess what the overall price offered stays the same. hmmm ya ur getting more. The Truth UR getting taken to the Cleaners by UR Companies.
They dont give two sheets to the wind about U or I , only that they sit behind a stinking desk and get the JAbrawnes and Jamokes to take their cheap freight.
Now Dont we all feel Crunchy.
Now how many people have u watched thus far get out of the business because of the FUEL Prices. THE country BIG WIGS are slowely getting what they wanted in the first Place.
The Industry will be flooded with the Mexican Drivers as they will run the Frieght for ELCHEAPO.
They can Bring the Price of Fuel down to a 1.50 a gallon just get rid of that riduculos stupid Fuel TAXES State and FED.
The next thing, open up our reserves again.
There aint no shortage thats a bunch of BS. & were suppose to buy off on that.
One last thing Bush made the mistake by taking Sadam out he should have stayed the course and stayed after Bin Lauden.
Sadam was black marketing oil to France Germany and Spain and Italy. Kept the Price down. Hmm
As long as Their is a Dick and Bush or Hillary around were going to have Problems.
Grab the shovels and lets get rid of the dukey.
Im trying to be polite.
Have a nice day all.
No Chains Allowed
ICEROADTRUCKER
RIdge Runner
The problem is everyone racing to unload and get ahead on the board. I had one moron pass me on the shoulder in a backup near St. Louis. Several miles down the road he was exiting for the t/s so I got to lay on the air horn as I passed him. I often see the same truck pass me 2 or 3 times on a run because I'm running steady and they're fast to the next scale or t/s or whatever.
Jack_Berry
Moderator Emeritus
just amazing in laredo last week. i was at the j and i could get up every morning thurs thru sat and see the price had gone up another nickel. 3.979 by sat afternoon and another 3.979 in denton at the ta(bad parking lot and all).
i agree slowing down is the beginning. if we slow down will the big trucks also slow down? there are many more of them than us.
i agree slowing down is the beginning. if we slow down will the big trucks also slow down? there are many more of them than us.
LDBIF racing to unload is running 60mph in a 70 then so be it, if its running 50 in a 55 then so be it. I saved alot of fuel by running 5 and 10 under the speed limit comming back outa CA.
Racing to unload is 73-75 in a 70, 68-70 in a 65, etc. I run about 58-62 wherever I am. Even if the fuel companies don't change prices, the bottom line still shows the benefit. I know a guy that used to drive a truck and got 7.9mpg overall running 60 and the guy driving the same truck now is getting 6.7mpg but he's a 70mph guy so driving speed does make a big difference.
panther_art
Expert Expediter
will guys with all your wisdom, I am just finshing up a load from Ogden, UT to Avon Lake, OH nice load, no. Will lets see I am only a driver in a box van and as of right now I am $100. in the red on this load.
I enjoy doing this but not for free, and I just don't understand why no one ever says that our companess should obsurb some of this, they are losing nothing.
pantherart
I enjoy doing this but not for free, and I just don't understand why no one ever says that our companess should obsurb some of this, they are losing nothing.
pantherart
Pantherart...how do you figure your 100 bucks in the red??
That's an EXCELLENT question OVM! Pantherart, details? Inquiring minds want to know.
panther_art
Expert Expediter
The 60% that I made + the fsc at last fill up I spend that + on gas maybe if it would not have been on the week-end gas prices may have been lower, some states I paid $3.60 a gal the lowest was $3.19
Truck gets .80 mile * 1700 miles
This was an nlm load
Took it to get back over here, and home.
Thats not counting food which I really don't spend to much on.
Truck gets .80 mile * 1700 miles
This was an nlm load
Took it to get back over here, and home.
Thats not counting food which I really don't spend to much on.
DreamTeam44
Seasoned Expediter
Going up up up up up.....
The highest we have paid to date $4.06 @ 'Loves' on I-74 in Illinois tonight.......
Every driver I made eye contact with gave me that look like damn this sucks, I spoke with a Landstar driver that was reminiscing about the old days when strikes loomed from time to time. He was educating me about some serious efforts individuals made to organize for positive changes for the trucking world back in the 70's.
Some of the trucking issues actually made it to congress where they screwed things up worse and deregulated the industry
In the process they discombubulated (is that a word) any hope of drivers coming together to organize a worthwhile threat that might enable changes...
There would have to be several strong minded and industry educated individuals, and at least 1 rep from each state that could recruit and organize, then after we have enough....awh forget it I am just dreamin again.....sorry
All we can do is drive on and dream on that we could all come together to make a difference
The highest we have paid to date $4.06 @ 'Loves' on I-74 in Illinois tonight.......
Every driver I made eye contact with gave me that look like damn this sucks, I spoke with a Landstar driver that was reminiscing about the old days when strikes loomed from time to time. He was educating me about some serious efforts individuals made to organize for positive changes for the trucking world back in the 70's.
Some of the trucking issues actually made it to congress where they screwed things up worse and deregulated the industry
In the process they discombubulated (is that a word) any hope of drivers coming together to organize a worthwhile threat that might enable changes...
There would have to be several strong minded and industry educated individuals, and at least 1 rep from each state that could recruit and organize, then after we have enough....awh forget it I am just dreamin again.....sorry
All we can do is drive on and dream on that we could all come together to make a difference
Pantherart...you said .80/ mile and is that including fsc? If not what is the fsc? Do you know your MPG's???
If ya get 15mpg you need approx. 113 gal @ say 3.80 =$429.40
.80x1700 = $1360
1360 - 492.40 = $930.60
Since we still don't know if FSC is include in the .80 you made $930.60
if you got 60% your end $558.36.
How did you not make money?
oh wait you said you were $100 to the red!!
If ya get 15mpg you need approx. 113 gal @ say 3.80 =$429.40
.80x1700 = $1360
1360 - 492.40 = $930.60
Since we still don't know if FSC is include in the .80 you made $930.60
if you got 60% your end $558.36.
How did you not make money?
oh wait you said you were $100 to the red!!
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