Load Acceptance Rates Included in Ranking

zorry

Veteran Expediter
I lived the Superior Service deal.
My father and I had trucks hauling gas/diesel in the Chicago area.
Teamster drivers. Fantastic service..
A former dispatcher/ demoted to driver approached the shipper with "I can do it half price".
The shipper called my father, apologized, and said the savings were too huge to pass up. This moron got about 50% of our largest account.
He put his punk kid in one truck, our truck washer in another and hit the street. 8000 gallons was a standard load. They'd load 8000, print a computer generated bol, then top off each compartment, hiding that bol under floormat.
90,000-94,000 gross on crap equipment.
We tightened our belts, asked our drivers to be patient, and within a year they were bankrupt, the IRS looking for them.
The shipper called my father and said, " we're not going to bid this freight. We want you to haul it at your price. We know you'll be fair with us."
Sometimes customers can't see past the potential savings.

Like using the carrier that spotted a sea container at Crane last month, and then failed to pick it up and have it placed on the ship going overseas.

Sooner or later a mistake will cost the shipper enough to evaluate costs vs savings.

Fortunately a lot of our shippers understand the value of Superior service.
 

redytrk

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Ok, here comes the first op after Jason`s announcement. 198 mi DH, 97 mi LD, 295 mi TL, $160.30. (54 cts PM).
Now, I am to be penalized for refusal. How can I maintain my business model when op`s like this are presented.
 

TeamCaffee

Administrator
Staff member
Owner/Operator
Did you send Jason an email asking him this question?

The actual loaded miles looks like it pays decent it is the dead head that is the killer. I am not so sure when they look at reports that they see the dead head miles and only see the loaded miles which looks like you turned down a decent load.

Actual examples and feedback given to Jason each and every time we get a load like this will go a long ways.
 
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redytrk

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
looks like you turned down a decent load.

I know its been a long time sine I went to school, but I fail to see how 54 cents per mile is "a decent load"
By the way I failed to mention, after del another 97 mi to nearest EC. A EC that is in the bottom 10.
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
Did you send Jason an email asking him this question?

The actual loaded miles looks like it pays decent it is the dead head that is the killer. I am not so sure when they look at reports that they see the dead head miles and only see the loaded miles which looks like you turned down a decent load.

Actual examples and feedback given to Jason each and every time we get a load like this will go a long ways.

I do not have Jason's email. Could you send it to me in a PM?
 

Deville

Not a Member
Did you send Jason an email asking him this question?

The actual loaded miles looks like it pays decent it is the dead head that is the killer. I am not so sure when they look at reports that they see the dead head miles and only see the loaded miles which looks like you turned down a decent load.

Actual examples and feedback given to Jason each and every time we get a load like this will go a long ways.

Am I reading this correctly, you think $197.00 for a 91 mile run is a decent paying load?
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
We need a way to send "snapshots" of ALL of the REALLY rotten loads to Jason and then he can explain how taking them is good for us.

We ALSO need much more information on the "Express Center" activity levels. They are skewed to insure pick up of lower paying loads. MANY of the "good" express centers are not so good for temp control trucks. When we check on what trucks are there we are not given the entire picture. We have NO idea what qualifications other trucks in the area have, EXCEPT, whether or not they are White Glove, teams or have a less than 75. NOT enough information to make informed business dicissions.
 

Jenny

Veteran Expediter
We need a way to send "snapshots" of ALL of the REALLY rotten loads to Jason and then he can explain how taking them is good for us.

We ALSO need much more information on the "Express Center" activity levels. They are skewed to insure pick up of lower paying loads. MANY of the "good" express centers are not so good for temp control trucks. When we check on what trucks are there we are not given the entire picture. We have NO idea what qualifications other trucks in the area have, EXCEPT, whether or not they are White Glove, teams or have a less than 75. NOT enough information to make informed business dicissions.

I agree. When it says its dispatched x wg loads, or units available, I wish it stated whether it was dry box, or temp control units.

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bubblehead

Veteran Expediter
We need a way to send "snapshots" of ALL of the REALLY rotten loads to Jason and then he can explain how taking them is good for us.

We ALSO need much more information on the "Express Center" activity levels. They are skewed to insure pick up of lower paying loads. MANY of the "good" express centers are not so good for temp control trucks. When we check on what trucks are there we are not given the entire picture. We have NO idea what qualifications other trucks in the area have, EXCEPT, whether or not they are White Glove, teams or have a less than 75. NOT enough information to make informed business dicissions.

You can get all that information right now! All you have to do is put your truck with Expedite Services and you will have access to a tremendous amount of critical data (derived from Fedex's data base) to aid in making business decisions.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
You can get all that information right now! All you have to do is put your truck with Expedite Services and you will have access to a tremendous amount of critical data (derived from Fedex's data base) to aid in making business decisions.


Explain, I have NO idea what you are talking about. How much money would I lose? How much freedom would I lose?
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
I believe if they are going to use acceptance rates as part of the criteria they should have to offer loads at a decent rate the first time the load is offered. And you should only be dinged with a decline if you were the first choice by the DVA system. Example: I am choice number 4 because I am 200 miles from pick up. My rate is lower because of the deadhead. Choice number 1 is 20 miles away and accepts the load. I decline but I still get dinged with a decline even though I am not going to get the load anyway. If this is how the system works our acceptance rates will always be low.
Offer us a decent all miles rate including deadhead to our planned layover and we will except everything that comes our way.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I agree. When it says its dispatched x wg loads, or units available, I wish it stated whether it was dry box, or temp control units.

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AND government clearances, and ALL other qualifications.
 

bubblehead

Veteran Expediter
Explain, I have NO idea what you are talking about. How much money would I lose? How much freedom would I lose?

You remove your truck from FEDEX and put it with Expedite Services to run for FEDEX as you have done before. Expedite services has better discounts on fuel and tires etc. FEDEX pay Expedite .03 per mile for every mile you run to cover addmin. expenses. We have two friends that have placed their trucks and themselves with this program. We are considering it but it is a hard pill to swallow to leave FEDEX in order to go back to FEDEX under a different company. But the database gives a huhge advantage over other O/Os and fleet owners and the only way to have access to it is through Expedite services.
 

jjoerger

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Army
You remove your truck from FEDEX and put it with Expedite Services to run for FEDEX as you have done before. Expedite services has better discounts on fuel and tires etc. FEDEX pay Expedite .03 per mile for every mile you run to cover addmin. expenses. We have two friends that have placed their trucks and themselves with this program. We are considering it but it is a hard pill to swallow to leave FEDEX in order to go back to FEDEX under a different company. But the database gives a huhge advantage over other O/Os and fleet owners and the only way to have access to it is through Expedite services.

Maybe someone on the drivers council could find out why we don't have access to it?
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
So you're saying there is no cost to you ?
Fedex covers all the cost ?

Why such a hard move ? Fedex would look at it as a lateral move.
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
Williams is a pretty sharp operator.
Don't understand how he can negotiate better discounts than Fedex.
 

bubblehead

Veteran Expediter
So you're saying there is no cost to you ?
Fedex covers all the cost ?

Why such a hard move ? Fedex would look at it as a lateral move.

My best guess is it is a liability/employee-contractor move. And that data base is tantalizing! Contract Relations told me that they (Expedite Services) are using their own data from their own fleet, but I have seen my runs on it so it is from FEDEX's data base...sorta thought everyone was in the loop on this one as Expedite Services has been advertising their management service for some time now.
 
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