Life sure is getting silly....

[layoutshooter]

No, I never said that one needs a mate to be complete. What I said was that once you choose that life that your mate and their happiness becomes your priority. When you put your mate first, insure their happiness first, you will be surprised, you will then be happier for the effort. Consider, your mate is doing the same for you. It cannot fail, assuming you choose wisely.

As to blame, I did not mean to say that blame should always be looked for or applied. However, there is almost always fault on both sides of a failed marriage. Otherwise, it would not have failed. I don't believe in "growing apart" or "moving on" or any other of those silly things that people use for today's excuses.

As to "suborness" helping to hold a marriage together, you can bet your booty on that!! As I said before, it is WORK, HARD WORK. It takes major effort by both parties.

 

[RLENT]

My statement was NOT incomplete.

Well, apparently according to your understanding, it isn't.

But then not everyone's understanding of Life is the same ....

Only you have the ability to look for yourself, and then determine whether there is something more to know or understand beyond what you are already aware of.

This I know for certain: One cannot usurp, or take from another, the entirety of that persons responsibility for their own condition (ie. their own happiness) - and expect that it will result in any betterment in the condition of that individual.

Indeed, it is interesting (and quite ironic) that you would claim such a stance - given your past history of stating that an individual should be responsible for their own condition.

When you put your mate first, as you should, their happiness is then most likely assured.

Oh, if it were only so .....

Of course, the qualifier in the above statement is "most likely" - IOW, it's not a lock, a given, or an absolutely guaranteed outcome.

The point of my initial comment was that both of your (yours and cheri's) statements were right ..... but neither was as right they potentially could be.

I'm afraid (in your effort to be "right" about the matter) you missed the point entirely.

 

[Ragman]

As to "suborness" helping to hold a marriage together, you can bet your booty on that!! As I said before, it is WORK, HARD WORK. It takes major effort by both parties.

Amen brother, amen! That's the problem nowadays. It seems the phrase "thru thick and thin" is forgotten about too often.

 

[arrbsthw]

Back to the dictionary..was the kid looking up oral sex? or was a parent just thumbing through the book. because if the child was looking up oral sex they wanted to know what it meant ..if they didn't already know. You never know these days what children know.

 

[RLENT]

Two questions:
I don't have a mate - does that make me incomplete, in your opinion?

Really, my opinion has very little to do with it for you .... since it is only something that you can determine for yourself, according to your own understanding.

My answer would be a question to you:

Is your life less complete, less fulfilled as a consequence of having been married, and having raised a family (which is part and parcel of that whole area of endeavor) ... or is it, in fact, more complete ?

Understanding that, before you answer the above, both joy and sorrow are a part of Life.

(If a person had never personally experienced sorrow, do you think they would be more or less capable of empathizing with their fellow man ? Would their understanding of their fellowman's plight be as complete ?)

I feel happy when I have a great book to read, ok?

As do I - but then I feel happy when doing many other things as well - that these things bring me happiness, in no way diminishes the potential of something else (like marriage, or a relation with someone of the opposite sex) to bring me additional happiness.

 

[layoutshooter]

Believe whatever you want RLENT. I promise you, if everyone who would choose to marry would do as I say, there would be VERY few, if any, divorces.

I am not going to try to split hairs on this. Play word games or any other silly thing. Once married two become one and the whole depends on all parts working together. Happiness comes from the success of the whole. If people cannot understand that basic concept, they should not marry. Life is really simple, it only becomes complicated when you choose to complicate it.

Man, I am SOOO profound!! LOL!! Right too!!

As to looking up oral sex, are we going to take out the word intercourse too? That entire thing is silly. If oral sex is in there I would be willing to bet that some of the more vulgar words for intercourse might be found as well. Will it ever stop?

IF the kid read it, the parents finds out, teach the kid what sex is and what it is for, the morals that you believe are right. That solves that. Shoot, by 8 years old you had better have started that already anyway. If not, you are way past the learning curve of your kid.

 

[RLENT]

Believe whatever you want RLENT.

It isn't really a case of believing, but a case of having personally experienced, observed, and then knowing.

I promise you, if everyone who would choose to marry would do as I say, there would be VERY few, if any, divorces.

I have been married to the same individual for over 30 years - the only person I have ever been married to - and I am quite well aware of what it takes to hold a marriage together - in bad circumstances, as well as good.

I am not going to try to split hairs on this. Play word games or any other silly thing.

Or apparently even bother to try and understand the finer points of what someone else is trying to say.

Being aware of one's opinion only (or more properly, one's understanding) is certainly better than being unaware of it - but I would submit that having the ability to understand not only one's, but someone else's, as well is far, far better.

Since it apparently escaped you (jury is still out on cheri), I was essentially agreeing with what both you (and cheri) said.

You somehow seem to think otherwise (an inability to observe the obvious apparently) - and seem to want reflexively fight whatever it is you don't understand - rather than bothering to make the effort to just "get" what is being said.

The two of you seem to believe that your viewpoints are at odds - I don't believe that they are - but apparently neither one of you can "get" how that might be.

Life is really simple, it only becomes complicated when you choose to complicate it.

...... truly, out of the mouths of babes .....

Man, I am SOOO profound!!

.... as compared to what ?

 

[layoutshooter]

"As compared to what"

Those who are not profound, man, what else could that mean. Relax, take it easy. No need to get your nickers in an uproar. I never said you did not know how to keep a marriage together. I did not imply that.

I don't ever complicate life. My solutions to all problems are simple, basic and never fail. Man, I am one of the smartest people I know!!!

I am injecting humor, does anyone know what that is? I hope I don't need to explain that too!!

 

[cheri1122]

If you need to explain 'humor', it aint funny.

RLENT: I 'get' what you're saying, it's just that I've never experienced it. My happiness has always been my own responsibility, no one else's, and I think I prefer it that way. I don't think I'd care for feeling responsible for someone else's happiness, either - what a great burden to bear, 24/7/365! What if I want to spend the whole day in my pajamas [with a good book]?
My parents were married 48 years when Dad died, and I always said they made marriage look so easy, it was a surprise when I found out how much work it involves. Of course it's worth it, if you find the right partner - I just haven't. I keep finding guys who think I should get dressed, every day, unless I'm sick - and I just don't get sick all that often!

 

[layoutshooter]

The explination of the humor was funny too. That must be a pretty big burr under that saddle. Bet it would feel a LOT better if you took it out!!

 

[RLENT]

Those who are not profound, man, what else could that mean.

Well, a snail certainly isn't profound .... but I hardly think that is what you meant.

Relax, take it easy. No need to get your nickers in an uproar.

I'm quite relaxed, thanks - it's pretty much my chronic state.

FWIW, as far as uproars go, I wasn't the one who replied using an emphatic "NOT" (as in "My statement was NOT incomplete.")

I never said you did not know how to keep a marriage together. I did not imply that.

And I never said that you did - I only sought to make it quite clear where I'm coming from.

I don't ever complicate life.

Nor do I.

My solutions to all problems are simple, basic and never fail.

LOL ..... you wish (as do I, in my own case)

Man, I am one of the smartest people I know!!!

Take my advice - get out more (like I do) - then you will find out just how many people there are out there that are smarter (like I have)

I am injecting humor, does anyone know what that is? I hope I don't need to explain that too!!

Well, if you do (have to explain it) then you have failed at it .... and it isn't humor.

 

[layoutshooter]

"Take my advice - get out more (like I do) - then you will find out just how many people there are out there that are smarter (like I have)"

I get out all the time. I ONLY hang around with smart people. What else can I do? Like travels with like!! Man, you should know that.

" Well, if you do (have to explain it) then you have failed at it .... and it isn't humor"

Yes it was, it was just over your head!! LOL!!!

 

[aristotle]

MASTER PLAN FOR MARITAL BLISS
1) Women lower your expectations of men by 10%.
2) Men increase your attentiveness to spouse by 20%.

Problem solved.

 

[layoutshooter]

MASTER PLAN FOR MARITAL BLISS
1) Women lower your expectations of men by 10%.
2) Men increase your attentiveness to spouse by 20%.

Problem solved.

Works for me!! And lighten up, smoke some helium!! Just don't become and airhead!!

 

[RLENT]

I get out all the time. I ONLY hang around with smart people.

Yeah ..... uh-huh ......

Yes it was, it was just over your head!! LOL!!!

It's not hard to understand that with both praise and flattery being truly seductive, they are highly desired and sought after - but unfortunately, they both are cheapened immensely when they come from oneself ..... not to mention the pain one will have to endure from patting themselves on the back so much .....

Long story short: Don't flatter yourself - I got it - but like I and cheri both pointed out - it wasn't particularly funny or humorous:

"Lieutenant Steve .... Lieutenant Steve .... "

(In case the above is lost on you, the Lieutenant being referred to above is Lieutenant Steve "Sir, in my heart, I know I'm funny ...." Hauk in the movie Good Morning Vietnam - watch the movie ..... and it will all become crystal clear .... or mebbe not .... Hauk never got it either .... )

 

[layoutshooter]

Yeah, what ever.

 

[witness23]

Yeah, what ever.

nice one.....lol

 

[layoutshooter]

Talk about things getting silly, a 9 year old in NY was suspended for have a gun in school. The gun was 2" long, part of a police Lego toy. The school is defending their actions, they have a not tolerance policy when it comes to guns. Anyone wonder why many of feel that public schools should be abolished? I would not want my kids being taught or supervised by total idiots.

 

[Moot]

By the powers vested in my keyboard I am returning this thread to the original topic, oral sex. We have been inundated with the term oral sex since the mid 1990's. It is prevalent in television newscasts, prime time tv shows, radio, newspapers, dirty magazines, women's magazines, teen magazines, music and dictionaries. It's vast exposure is enough to make one gag.

How did this young innocent California student come upon the term oral sex? Through one or more of the above mentioned media? Accidentally while looking up the word orate in the dictionary? Or perhaps the little darling kept stumbling across oral sex while researching the life and times of this country's forty second president for a school assignment.

This youngster was inquisitive enough to search the dictionary for the definition. Found it and was probably satisfied with the definition: oral stimulation of the genitals. End of story! But what if he or she could not locate the term in the school dictionary? I guarantee plugging oral sex into a computer search engine will yield more than the mere words oral stimulation of the genitals.

Ban vans, not words.


Suggested reading:

He Said/She Said: The History Of Oral Arguments by Constance Lingus and Phillip Latio.

Spitball by Orel Leonard Hershiser IV

The Silver Tongued Preacher: The Oral Roberts Story.

 

[highway star]

In a future essay, Moot will address the myth of the female orgasm.