Less Than a Buck to laredo

EASYTRADER · Jun 18, 2010

Lol,
I,m in chicago, I've had 14 load offers all less than a buck a mile, except one which was a hundred mile run with 3 stops for 150.

Even a Laredo texas run with less than 50 miles dead head came in at .97
Total for 6500 pounds.

I think the fecc bokers must be passing a crack pipe around

Jefferson3000 · Jun 18, 2010

EASYTRADER said:
Lol,
I,m in chicago, I've had 14 load offers all less than a buck a mile, except one which was a hundred mile run with 3 stops for 150.

Even a Laredo texas run with less than 50 miles dead head came in at .97
Total for 6500 pounds.

I think the fecc bokers must be passing a crack pipe around

In Chi town? Wow. Straight truck run? Double wow.

EASYTRADER · Jun 18, 2010

LOL,
They just hit me with the laredo run for 1.04, the weight is now 7k, hum. Guess i'll pass on that too.

According to ATBS there is a 6 to 1, frieght to truck ratio. So the rates should be high as hell right now, not dragging in the dirt.

I,m puzzled.

LDB · Jun 18, 2010

There seems to be serious confusion at FX today as to whether it's Fri the 13th or Fri the 18th. My truck had 4 offers today all way south of a dollar a mile. They need to tell the customers they're only hauling truck freight at truck rates.

Vinnie T · Jun 18, 2010

It seems by the FED offering these loads to all the ops in the area simultaneously they are finding drivers that are stupid enough to take the runs at these rates. I doubt what they are getting paid is any less, they are just making more money off you guys. What a shame if that is happening! Keep turning them down!!

EASYTRADER · Jun 18, 2010

Leo,
come to chi-town and bang your head with me.

I just got 1.10 to maryland except it has 200 miles of dead head, hum that makes is .94 cpm guess i'll pass on that too. Maybe I'm too expensive

EASYTRADER · Jun 18, 2010

Oh yeah the Maryland run picks up on the 21rst.

guido4475 · Jun 18, 2010

LDB said:
There seems to be serious confusion at FX today as to whether it's Fri the 13th or Fri the 18th. My truck had 4 offers today all way south of a dollar a mile. They need to tell the customers they're only hauling truck freight at truck rates.

I had that problem when I had my 10-wheeler. Guess that is why I went into a van....

Jefferson3000 · Jun 18, 2010

Vinnie T said:
It seems by the FED offering these loads to all the ops in the area simultaneously they are finding drivers that are stupid enough to take the runs at these rates. I doubt what they are getting paid is any less, they are just making more money off you guys. What a shame if that is happening! Keep turning them down!!

Well, I don't know if they are required to show the revenue or not, since they are on percentage. That would prove or disprove the theory that they're trying to make more money off their people. But these kinds of rates are ridiculous. Maybe a really bad glitch in the system? Truckload trying to hand some of the small ones off to expedite? Really stupid saleshole? Dunno.

davekc · Jun 18, 2010

Think I would put up those purple pom-poms at those rates.
Then again, maybe they need that extra cash from drivers to fund their $1000 dollar sign on bonus.

greg334 · Jun 18, 2010

I'm wondering if this is the shape of things to come.

Maybe this goes back to my comment about interdepartmental billing.

Between the "race for the cash" dispatching and lowering of rates, maybe FedEx is moving toward a flat rate?!?

davekc · Jun 18, 2010

I don't know if they would care either way. The minute they put in a dispatch system that pits drivers against each other in a bid war, this is the end result. The stories from a year ago that defended this nonsense never seen the big picture.
Looks like they are seeing it up close and personal now.
What a shame.

nightcreacher · Jun 18, 2010

FDCC has started a new division,mainly for the solo drivers,that will be on a graduated pay scale,and I believe,it starts out at 1 buck plus fsc for all miles,no give away.After so many miles the pay goes up.As far as the low rates,Dave,that new dispatch system has nothing to do with the low rates.That system when i left was working as they were able to let the customers know they had a truck available sooner.As far as 1 driver being played against another,the pay on those loads is sent out the same to everyone,except, the fsc may be higher for some, as they may have more miles to cover before the pick up.
When I was offered a sub standard pay load,I would turn it down,and if they called back i would give them a realistic price I could do it for.The rest of the contractors there can also do the same thing,buut there are drivers that work for individuals,that have them on a forced dispatch,therefore,even the cheap loads are getting covered

davekc · Jun 19, 2010

Not seeing it that way.
When loads are booked and you have numerous trucks in a area, there is no benefit in speed to get it covered. If it is a decent load, they know they are going to cover it.
That decision is totally price driven.
What would be the purpose of using this to send a load as mentioned, several days until the pickup?
Competitive bidding between drivers is the real issue.
I don't see companies losing loads because they don't send out multiple load offers to trucks.
Lastly, if the notion is they are doing this for speed, why would they send out numerous cheap offers under a dollar a mile that no one wants to tie up their system?
Makes no sense. Then again, I am not one to complicate the simple.

pjjjjj · Jun 19, 2010

nightcreacher said:
......That system when i left was working as they were able to let the customers know they had a truck available sooner......

And conversely, they are able to save caving in to drivers dickering to 'up the ante' when each driver individually was allowed so many minutes to make a decision. Couldn't possibly be in touch separately with all drivers who possibly could've taken the load, and then find out they gave away a bonus when someone who would've done it for less is sitting there hungry, but no time to approach everyone.
I'm sure that system is still working... at least for the carrier.

TeamCaffee · Jun 19, 2010

davekc said:
I don't know if they would care either way. The minute they put in a dispatch system that pits drivers against each other in a bid war, this is the end result. The stories from a year ago that defended this nonsense never seen the big picture.
Looks like they are seeing it up close and personal now.
What a shame.

Dave what in the world are you talking about? I do not know anything about bid wars? Pitting drivers against drivers?

The system is no different then it was before. More drivers see the load at the same time but the dwell time is the main issue on who gets the load. We also can refuse 20 loads in a day and we are still in the same order as we were when the first load offer came out.

davekc · Jun 19, 2010

If you are shooting out loads that are cheap as posted to multiple trucks, what would be the purpose other than to get it covered for a cheap rate? 14 loads under a buck a mile through a day as posted? Are you kidding me?
The purpose is clear.

Jefferson3000 · Jun 19, 2010

davekc said:
If you are shooting out loads that are cheap as posted to multiple trucks, what would be the purpose other than to get it covered for a cheap rate? 14 loads under a buck a mile through a day as posted? Are you kidding me?
The purpose is clear.

Sounds like a certain company is preparing for a shareholders meeting. Gotta boost those profit numbers.

skyraider · Jun 19, 2010

Now where is that statement to BAN THE VAN now, Im not getting ur loads ur turnning down, but I can make good money on 95 cents a mile,, will take them all day long, ps,,do it all the time and I'm a happy camper, yep ban the van, and u all turn down loads, give me a break.

layoutshooter · Jun 19, 2010

skyraider said:
Now where is that statement to BAN THE VAN now, Im not getting ur loads ur turnning down, but I can make good money on 95 cents a mile,, will take them all day long, ps,,do it all the time and I'm a happy camper, yep ban the van, and u all turn down loads, give me a break.

No reason to "ban the van". I don't want your rates, I cannot run at those rates and stay in business. You would not see many of those loads we turn down, they are far too heavy for any van or sprinter out there. When we do take light loads, which is often, they always require "special" things that most vans don't have. Like dock high or dual driver protection etc.