Lech Walesa's Warning for America

[Lawrence]

Lech Walesa's Warning for America

WALESA (via translator): The United States is only one superpower. Today they lead the world. Nobody has doubts about it. Militarily. They also lead economically but they're getting weak. But they don't lead morally and politically anymore. The world has no leadership. The United States was always the last resort and hope for all other nations. There was the hope, whenever something was going wrong, one could count on the United States. Today, we lost that hope.

Lech Walesa's Warning for America

 

[chefdennis]

Wait!! We were told by more then a few members here that barry was going to "change how the rest of the world viewed the U.S." , I guess they were right....just not in the fashion they thought he would...from strong to weak, from a leader to a 3rd world country....yeap, he certainly has changed how we are seen by the rest of the world leaders....

As has been asked, "so how is that hope and change
workin for ya!?!?

 

[layoutshooter]

All King Putz the 1st will do is blame Bush, appoint some wacko judges and continue his push to wipe out this Nation.

 

[Oilerman1957]

Well, the choice was McCain or Obama. Still would have to chose Obama

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Hey NOW...this guys is a UNION leader!! Lets not go all gushy on what this thug says because you like to hear it!!!

He's a Rusky, a commie and a Unionist!! He lies like a rug!!!

I don't believe a word of it...Its a commie plot I say!!

 

[FIS53]

Yes he was a union leader. His union made the giant step unions here would love to make, which is to become a national political movement. He led the union to a victory over the government and became the leader of the country as the union became a political party.
Now is he a commie? Can't be as he took on the commie government and brought it down. He opened up elections to other parties.
I think he deserves a little listen to as he has had experience with the problems of a country in financial and political trouble and under going a massive change.
Rob

 

[LDB]

He makes sense and Obama is the worst possible choice now just as he was then. McCain wasn't a whole lot better but definitely a measurable amount less evil than Obama. Then again, being less evil than Obama pretty much only means you aren't Bin Laden or Beelzebub but making the top three list is something anyway.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Yes he was a union leader. His union made the giant step unions here would love to make, which is to become a national political movement. He led the union to a victory over the government and became the leader of the country as the union became a political party.
Now is he a commie? Can't be as he took on the commie government and brought it down. He opened up elections to other parties.
I think he deserves a little listen to as he has had experience with the problems of a country in financial and political trouble and under going a massive change.
Rob

But Rob you are a Canuck ..we are used to a Union political party...Communist now turned labour, the NDP...these Americans are not...and Canada by US standards is a socialist country....soooooo

 

[muttly]

Well, the choice was McCain or Obama. Still would have to chose Obama

Really? That is unbelievable.

 

[chefdennis]

Originally Posted by Oilerman1957

Well, the choice was McCain or Obama. Still would have to chose Obama

Muttly wrote:

Really? That is unbelievable.

Nahh... it shouldn't be unbelievable, look at his screenname, he is an ex uaw autoworker........just one union brother supporting a socialist.....

 

[muttly]

Yes your probably right. Even with some of the problems conservatives might have had with Mccain as president he would have been so much better than what we have now. This economy would probably be humming right now because he wouldn't have allowed all the goverment spending and the private sector would have more confidence to grow and create more jobs.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Yes your probably right. Even with some of the problems conservatives might have had with Mccain as president he would have been so much better than what we have now. This economy would probably be humming right now because he wouldn't have allowed all the goverment spending and the private sector would have more confidence to grow and create more jobs.

Huh? It was Bush that started with the bailouts first and Obama seen them thru...BOTH are responsible...McCain would have been the very same puppet as most of the Presidents of past have been...McCain wouldn't know a dollar from a peso...he's so economically challenged!!

 

[chefdennis]

bush did the 1st bailout with full input of barry in fact turbo timmy was the one who put it together...bush went to barry and told him that he wouldn't do anything on the eve of him taking office that he didn't ok....yea bush spent just like a democrat and that was bs then too...but barry has far exceeded anything any ither president has done and he plans on continuing it and running thos country into bk...mccain probably would have spent also, but i don't think he would have bailed out the banks or gm and chysler and neither should have barry...its all for nothing because nothing they have done as benefited anyone except those in power......

 

[greg334]

might have had with Mccain as president he would have been so much better than what we have now.

Absolutely ******* not!

McCain would have followed in Bushed fiscal policies and made a bigger mess than what we have today. Just with the congress getting one of their own to lead things, we would see more than what we did with Obama in the way of overreaching regulations and stifling laws with McCain's attitude. Obama has yet moved on bank or "wall street" regulations and has yet fulfilled promises about sharing the wealth, pretty straight forward when you "own" congress.

McCain would have put more regulations like McCain-Fingold in place, he would have reinforced things like Sarbanes-Oxley and other dumb laws through expansion of government and we would have still another bailout to deal with near the size of what we have today when it is all said and done.

Many seem to forget if the president that is this popular, that seems to be treated as a rock star and savior of the world can't pass something like health care while millions are dying in the streets because their Chemo is cut off, what makes people think he is going to do much in the way of putting together packages that will get us out of this mess?

As far as our Polish communist guest has said, we need to look at our position on the world stage and take his warning a bit seriously. Ignore the Euro-trash French and appeaser English and German types and build ourselves back up.

He by the way is still a communist as much as Groby is and the amazing thing is when he was "world Famous" and these union types were doing the "solidarity thing", those over there didn't know what to make of it. It seems that the unions over there are not as hostile to the company or the people who buy their products or services and they are not all trying to take everything over. It really is even funnier when the UAW workers here would b*tch about someone pulling into the lot with a German, English or French made car or a Saab or Volvo - all union made. So they support a communist union worker but not a union worker from Germany?

 

[muttly]

Huh? It was Bush that started with the bailouts first and Obama seen them thru...BOTH are responsible...McCain would have been the very same puppet as most of the Presidents of past have been...McCain wouldn't know a dollar from a peso...he's so economically challenged!!

Yes McCain voted for tarp so that the private sector would have access to capital. The banks were all messed up mainly due to the govt intrusion .McCain would have never went for that 800 billion spending bill . Not a chance.

 

[Oilerman1957]

Originally Posted by Oilerman1957



Muttly wrote:



Nahh... it shouldn't be unbelievable, look at his screenname, he is an ex uaw autoworker........just one union brother supporting a socialist.....

Dont know what ur talking about, I worked for what I got, just as you have. So I was a union member, That makes me a socialist? Dont think so. Sorry i dont fall for the name labeling and scare tactics some people put out. I am a worker just like everyone else.

 

[Oilerman1957]

It really is even funnier when the UAW workers here would b*tch about someone pulling into the lot with a German, English or French made car or a Saab or Volvo - all union made. So they support a communist union worker but not a union worker from Germany?[/QUOTE]


It isnt about being a union made vehicle, It was about supporting the company you worked for

 

[greg334]

It isnt about being a union made vehicle, It was about supporting the company you worked for

Oh really!?!

Well come here to Detroit, look at a Ford, or GM lot and see what you see. They have employee lots for Japanese and German cars separate from the lots for "Big Three" cars, even though one GM lot has been consistently filled with Ford and Chrysler products - it is a union thing, not a support thing.

How about supporting your company with a jacket that say GM on it instead of UAW?

I know many many people who have the UAW hats, the UAW jackets and even the UAW stickers on their cars but no where do they show pride in the company that provides them the means to make money.

I don't buy any of that they want to support the company for a second, the idea that the worker is complaining to me about my Union made VW, is not about pride it is about it being a foreign car sitting in their "territory" and they said so.

I'm not saying this blindly, I have had a lot of experience with the UAW and it wasn't paying dues.

With that said, I also beleive there are a lot of hard working UAW members, but the problem is they could have had a better life, they could have had saved their jobs by ridding themselves of an archaic union run by a bunch of greedy people.

 

[layoutshooter]

The unions, as an organization not always every member of the rank and file, are socialist organizations. They push the socialist agenda, national health, gun control etc etc etc. You cannot tell me that they don't. They only back candidates that spout that swill. Name me one candidate that the UAW backed in this last election that was not a socialist? I cannot think of any, included that head putz of the bunch, King Obama.

That does not mean that every member votes that way, but around here, most do. How can I saw that? Just look at who wins and loses and what candidates have no chance what so ever of getting elected.

If an organization, backs an agenda, spends money on getting those who preach that agenda elected, that makes them part of that agenda. In this case, socialism.

When it walks like a commie, talks like a commie and lies like a commie, it must be a commie.

It kinda amazes me that the UAW or any union that has factory workers would back these socialists. It has always been the plan of the left to destroy our industrial base. They are doing it. WHY would you back a candidate that is out to wipe out your jobs? Makes no sense to me.

 

[chefdennis]

Oilerman wrote:

That makes me a socialist? Dont think so

Nope, I was very careful NOT to call you a Socialist...i said you were a union brother...supporting a Socialist.. Which makes perfect since since the unions are the dems fav tool for election and barry as worked his tail off to pay back the uaw as well as other unions