As to Rich M's post. Rich M has always seemed like a nice guy to me, and he's obviously an experienced and helpful expediter/moderator, but with that said, he made a comment and it was racist, and it's his right, but don't backpeddle or give the "it was taken out of context" bs. If that's how you feel, stand behind it, don't say it was meant any other way. If it looks like a duck.... Illegal immigration concerns me, but when I hear that, "they're just coming in to suck up welfare stuff, I have to laugh." When I used to live in the Northeast, I believed that. But let's look inside the country and our own lazy people/ and kids that people are raising. I used to own a small (5 truck household fleet) in the mid 80s to mid 90s. Starting at 12-15 bucks and hour (+ tips), I had so many employee problems, Lateness, drunks, "I can't work weekends because my wife and I have picnics, parties.. but can I get an advance on my pay?", "I have to be home by 4 today, my girlfriend needs a ride to the mall" Workmen/Contractors for my house? Legit, licensed ones, that stood me up three days in a row with no call. Kids with after school starter jobs, American parents are teaching them it's beneath them. "Here's some money for that video game" No work ethic and a lot of laziness. That's the reality. Then I started trucking in AZ and South Texas and started reading about a Mexicans dying in the desert trying to cross and take crappy jobs..(yes that Americans won't do). When I use to deliver to Sieera Vist AZ, a major van line agent I was friends with would provide labor. He swore my help was legal, but I'm pretty sure they werent. Guess what, these young guys worked their rear-ends off. They didn't want to break, it meant they couldn't get to another job. I lived in California for a while, and all the Mexicans I knew worked side businesses after full-time jobs..and they showed up. Fast forward to the day before Memorial Day this year. I worked a half day and I'm driving home towing a purchase I worked hard for. After the 200 mile trip home at 2:30am I'm on a State Highway in my pick-up, about 2 miles from my home exit when I heard an explosion and I thought my towed item seperated. I looked back and I saw glass everywhere, on me, my dogs, and a hole through the third window on my F-150. I thought it was shot out. To cut throught the crap, it turned out to be a brick. Three little scuzzbags nailed 6 cars over a 15 minute period from a side overpass. They were caught, (and lucky I didn't catch them that night. 3 little animals, 16 and 17, all from upper middle class families.The father, a prominent businessman didn't know his kid was stoned and out at 2:30am doing crime. The same father was upset because his son had to spend an extra night in Juvenile before arraignment because of Memorial Day. None of them worked, but the one father had the guts to say, "My son was thinking about asking neighbors if they need their lawn mowed." The "progressive judge, (they don't call them judges here, that would hurt the poor boys self esteem, they call the judge a referee) their was harsh. They all got 8 days in juvenile, (it was a second offense for one) and they had to reimburse me, (within a year). I was so livid they put 4 Deputies next to me in Court. That's the reality Rich, look around you and you'll see we're doing it to ourselves. The Mexicans are teaching their kids a work ethic, and we are not on the whole! (I made my son work through high school and college, and he graduated last year. I helped him when he needed it, but I'm pretty sure he learned something!) Sorry about the long post.