Just another one of those "Gotchya" questions.

greg334

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you can say what ever you want about it only being deflecting.the left does it on a much larger scale.

That may be all true but what sets them apart is not addressing it in the first place like Palin does and actually being honest and admitting a mistake or two was made. No matter what the other side of the fence is saying, acting the same way they do is a turn off and blurs any difference between the two parties and their positions. I don't care about what Obama said in the past, we are not talking about him as a possible presidential hopeful, but we are talking about a person who can run and she seemed to not care about integrity when she obviously made a mistake by first opening her mouth and then defending the statement when it is not true.

DO you really want another Obama type in the WH?

As Chef pointed out, Obama made a mistake on a "who cares" comment about his daughter's age. No one really cares other than those who try to find fault with everything the man does, says or writes - this is just the same type of BS that the left did with Bush.

because we defend some one does not make us shallow to me you thinking that shows how small minded you are

I'm not calling you or anyone here shallow, I am talking about the professional defenders, like Hannity and Rush and those who spin anything the left (or independents) criticized to meet their audience expectations and needs.

With that said as a professional defender, if your defense is justified and has some facts to back it up WITHOUT spinning it to fit the needs of the person you are defending, then you are not shallow but to have a knee jerk reaction to the critics of those who are on the left (and independents) pointing out the stupidity of a person's comments who has been made out to be or supposed to be a bit smarter than a 13 year old girl, then the problem is you as a professional defender are shallow and dumb.
 

paullud

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as far as the founding fathers go.its funny that you on the left think only a few are founding fathers.i think anyone who was here in the first 100 years or so.you know the one that helped shape the country.the ones who were willing to take up arms and give their live so others could live free.well they were founding fathers.the founding farthers were not just the one that were in goverment.

The only thing that matters to people like Witness are his views he is right and you are wrong. He is to ignorant to see there is a much broader term of founding fathers than the original 6 men. You can also point out to them that half of those 6 were against slavery and even stopped Jefferson from allowing slavery as a right but then they will just point out other people worked harder.

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paullud

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I don't care about what Obama said in the past, we are not talking about him as a possible presidential hopeful, but we are talking about a person who can run and she seemed to not care about integrity when she obviously made a mistake by first opening her mouth and then defending the statement when it is not true.

You forgot to add IMO to the end of the statement because that is your opinion or is there still no understanding of the fact that the term founding fathers has no clear cut definition.

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witness23

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The only thing that matters to people like Witness are his views he is right and you are wrong. He is to ignorant to see there is a much broader term of founding fathers than the original 6 men. You can also point out to them that half of those 6 were against slavery and even stopped Jefferson from allowing slavery as a right but then they will just point out other people worked harder.

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paullud

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Oh poor you, the guy that can't even answer a simple question about what they do for a living. My guess is unemployed and living off the system possibly still in your parents basement. I know the rest of us are just so dumb and you are having a hard time explaining our stupidity to us, we are just stupid idiots that never bothered looking up and seeing what the term founding fathers means. Oh wait never mind that was you that didn't bother researching this woman's comment because you already know everything.

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witness23

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Oh poor you, the guy that can't even answer a simple question about what they do for a living. My guess is unemployed and living off the system possibly still in your parents basement. I know the rest of us are just so dumb and you are having a hard time explaining our stupidity to us, we are just stupid idiots that never bothered looking up and seeing what the term founding fathers means. Oh wait never mind that was you that didn't bother researching this woman's comment because you already know everything.

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Why thank you.
 

chefdennis

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No he isn't unemployed, He is a desk jpckey stealing time from his employer while playing online...I guess those smaller Expedite companies are ok with that.....
 

chefdennis

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No he isn't unemployed, He is a desk jockey stealing time from his employer while playing online...I guess those smaller Expedite companies are ok with that.....
 

paullud

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No he isn't unemployed, He is a desk jpckey stealing time from his employer while playing online...I guess those smaller Expedite companies are ok with that.....

Oh so he is a wanna be, he is resentful towards all drivers because he is to scared to risk failure but all these dumb lowly drivers are enjoying their job while he hates his life. Basically he is employed but still living at home in his parents basement.

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witness23

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Oh so he is a wanna be, he is resentful towards all drivers because he is to scared to risk failure but all these dumb lowly drivers are enjoying their job while he hates his life. Basically he is employed but still living at home in his parents basement.

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Yeah that's it, ya got me figured out. Greetings and salutations from my parents basement.
 
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greg334

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You forgot to add IMO to the end of the statement because that is your opinion or is there still no understanding of the fact that the term founding fathers has no clear cut definition.

OK here is the thing, the founding father do have a clear and distinct definition and have been agreed on by many historians for a long long time - that the people who have the title of a founding father are those who directly participated in the declaration of independence, the fighting of the war for independence and the shaping of our country before 1789. That phrase was first used in public by Warren Harding in a speech given in 1916 but it has been more or less taken the shape in our society to indicate the seven key members (from Adams to Washington).

BUT to believe that John Quincy Adams was a member of the founding fathers club is akin to saying that Obama helped FDR write the New Deal.
 
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