Joe Wilson's Wife Knows He's A Pinhead Too

greg334 · Sep 18, 2009

It seems many of you don't get this, we are ignored everywhere by our elected elite and the one time someone actually stands up and does their job, you jump on it as something that is so horrible and very wrong.

Many of the same people who say Wilson was very wrong are the same ones complaining about what the congress does or doesn't do for the people. You are the same people complaining about TARP, Money for the auto companies and so on.

You are the same people who should be scared of what is going to happen to your health care, what control you will lose and should be happy someone finally stood up and called the Obama out.

It is not the office that was speaking, the disrespect was not shown to the office but to the man holding the office. The office was not at the joint session of congress on a trivial matter, the man was.

No one seems to care a d*mn thing about senators calling our soldiers Nazis, why?

tallcal101 · Sep 21, 2009

Now just on blasted minute here boys and girls. No matter the depths of of the lies and general scumbag behavior of w and his lowly crew,no one from the other side of the aisle made a fool of themselves to the degree this dog faced low life did.It's about respect.
I was ashamed once again that we have to be reminded of how people like Greg can at times seem lucid,then dive right back into the hammer head mentality that excuses such behavior.
I know,most of you wish he had gone all the way and called him the n word and been done with it.That's what most of you feel,regardless of your righteous indignation at such an assumption.Come on,no white President (unless it happened to be a democratic woman)regardless of his or her ranking in the polls, would be called such a thing in a nationally televised speech on any topic.It's pretty clear that the bible in one hand and.38 special in the other hand crowd are milking it for all it's worth. Hot air,loads of it,and nobody really cares except other race bait advocates.It makes for an interesting anthropological study on the moronic behavior of asinine citizens in the year of our lord 2009,but other then that will have zero effect on policy.It's not their time yet.Hopefully,it never will be again with clowns like jOe from ohiO having a say.He represents you all very well.I say run his slippery a%^ for 2012!!!

dieseldiva · Sep 21, 2009

Tallcal101: I am offended by your implication of racism, it's YOUR opinion and I see nothing fruitful coming of my trying to persuade you differently.

That being said, I will ask this question, and I am more than serious about it....setting this "Joe Wilson thing" aside.....

How, in your opinion, does one disagree with this president without being called a racist?

Poorboy · Sep 21, 2009

tallcal101 said:
Now just on blasted minute here boys and girls. No matter the depths of of the lies and general scumbag behavior of w and his lowly crew,no one from the other side of the aisle made a fool of themselves to the degree this dog faced low life did.It's about respect.
I was ashamed once again that we have to be reminded of how people like Greg can at times seem lucid,then dive right back into the hammer head mentality that excuses such behavior.
I know,most of you wish he had gone all the way and called him the n word and been done with it.That's what most of you feel,regardless of your righteous indignation at such an assumption.Come on,no white President (unless it happened to be a democratic woman)regardless of his or her ranking in the polls, would be called such a thing in a nationally televised speech on any topic.It's pretty clear that the bible in one hand and.38 special in the other hand crowd are milking it for all it's worth. Hot air,loads of it,and nobody really cares except other race bait advocates.It makes for an interesting anthropological study on the moronic behavior of asinine citizens in the year of our lord 2009,but other then that will have zero effect on policy.It's not their time yet.Hopefully,it never will be again with clowns like jOe from ohiO having a say.He represents you all very well.I say run his slippery a%^ for 2012!!!

Was wondering How long it would Take before Some Moron Played the Race Card? Sheesh, Get a Life, Or at least come up with something More Original as That Race Card has been Overplayed.. You are Totally Wrong as Usual regarding Race! You Probably don't know 1% of the People on this Forum, Me Neither, And you sure as Heck Don't know Me, But I don't go Calling Everyone a Racist Like you and One Other! Get Over it Already, Your Messiah is Failing, But Your Rose Colored Glasses won't Let you see it!!

tallcal101 · Sep 21, 2009

I'll stand by my words.If you were offended,so was I by Joe's outburst.Some on this site have defended it and tried to dignify it. We are correctly not in Brittan,in fact we left for the very reason we're discussing this topic:we don't treat each other like pigs in our public houses.Looks allot more like Taiwan then Washington DC when we do.In my 62 years this type of disrespect has never happened.Black Pres changes the game for the bible /.38 special gay bashing crowd.I would expect nothing less.Oh,and by the way,you don't have to be white to be a racist,just ignorant.That's why racists have such a hard time saying "not me,good Lord,I'm a Christian ",as if love of all men and love of Christ are inseparable.Me thinks not.

Poorboy · Sep 21, 2009

tallcal101 said:
I'll stand by my words.If you were offended,so was I by Joe's outburst.Some on this site have defended it and tried to dignify it. We are correctly not in Brittan,in fact we left for the very reason we're discussing this topic:we don't treat each other like pigs in our public houses.Looks allot more like Taiwan then Washington DC when we do.In my 62 years this type of disrespect has never happened.Black Pres changes the game for the bible /.38 special gay bashing crowd.I would expect nothing less.Oh,and by the way,you don't have to be white to be a racist,just ignorant.That's why racists have such a hard time saying "not me,good Lord,I'm a Christian ",as if love of all men and love of Christ are inseparable.Me thinks not.

You can stand by your Words if you want to, That's what America is all about! You Can even say what you want about Ole Joe, But what he said Had Nothing to do with Race, It was what people call Being Fed Up With all of Obumma's Lies that Made him Feel Obligated to do it! I am Glad that he did it, And the Sooner the Rest of those Fools start Calling him out on his Lies then the Better Off this Country will be! There is no room in this Country for a President who Lies Constantly like Obumma no Matter if he/she is White, Black, Mulatto, Pink or any other Color!

LDB · Sep 21, 2009

Joe Wilson was wrong to say what he did at the time he said it. Joe Wilson was correct in what he said. All in all this is a molehill of an event. It's only such a big freaking deal to some few because it was said about the messiah. Bush was called a liar plenty of times over matters that were far more trivial than the huge healthcare lie being forced upon us.

All that aside, Mr. Wilson and Mr. Obama took care of things themselves so why can't everyone get over it and worry about something with meaning rather than this meaningless and finished event? Get over it those of you so busily gnashing your teeth over this nothingness.

Pilgrim · Sep 21, 2009

How soon we forget about the insults and total lack of decorum displayed by the Democrats in this very Sanctum Sanctorum about which the mainstream media is so suddenly concerned. Though there were many displays of disrespect for the office of the Presidency during Bush's eight years in office, the following by Pete Stark (D-CA) has to be one of the best examples crass behaviour ever displayed in congress. Keep in mind that this speech was not an emotional outburst, but a planned offering written into the House record that twice called Bush a liar - yet nothing was said by the media and no apology was ever offered.

Gateway Pundit: Hypocrisy Alert: Dem Rep. Pete Stark Called Bush Liar On House Floor... Twice (Video)

Just imagine what the outrage would be if Barack Hussein Obama's name was substituted for Bush's and this diatribe was given by any congressman from the Republican side of the isle; Maureen Dowd would have stroked out. If ever there was a congressman that should be tarred and feathered, then given the ride on a rail it should be Pete Stark. These types of statements are common from him, compared to the one instance from Joe Wilson - yet no one seems to remember.

LDB · Sep 22, 2009

Amazing just how intensely the Koolaid manages to tint the glasses.

greg334 · Sep 22, 2009

Well first Andy, the people who made this a race thing are lowlifes to begin with. It is a political thing and only people who want to race bait, have some hatred for the country are the one's always bringing up race. If he is a black president, then it is in the small paranoid minded of the left that he is only a black president - not a man who was elected as president who happens to be black. We all didn't have him elected to right some wrong, that is too evendent in his telling Paterson not to run in the New York elections - Race doesn't matter and should never matter.

But what wilson said was right, he was doing his job and in this day and age, he stood up for what he thought was right in the place where he works.

It amazes me of the lack of passion and misplaced attitudes with this subject, here we are faced with one issue that may shorten many of our lives over issues that should not be debated in the US congress at all and many who are passionate about it have fits about this and a lot of other things that Obama has done but then say Wilson was wrong when he called the man out. Well sorry but either you want people like Wilson to make a stink or you want your representitive to be part of the flock, there is no in-between.

OVM you are so right, reading minutes of the past congressional sessions, we went from actual debate in the mid -1800s to 5 minutes on the floor and vote for closure. We used to have debate, arguments and all of that, it was part of the passion within politics. No one in our congress can or actually able to handle the confrentation with the egos we have in congress. just citizen confrentation, take the immigration bill a couple years ago where we have senators complaining the people were speaking up too much and now with health care and town halls. The American politician is trully a reflection of the people, a lack of passion and foritiude that has cuased us to complain about the action of a congressman when he speaks up but not of others who put us on a course of ruin,

Open debate in congress can never happen like it does in parlement, the people already reacted to it with this bunch of cr*p, so can you imagine if there was an incedent like what Tony Blair faced in the commons where MPs were screaming at him to the point he sat down and didn't say a word after that for the rest of the day?

layoutshooter · Sep 22, 2009

I don't understand how telling a liar that he/she/it is lying is wrong. That is just telling the truth, that is kind of refreshing. Obama IS a liar. Wilson may be too, after all, he too is only a lowely politition. Just remember the old saying "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach go into retail and those who can't hack retail go into politics!!" Obama IS a PROFESSIONAL polition, has NEVER held a REAL job. The fact that he has made politics his profession PROVES he is a LIAR!!! Calling a liar a liar is no different than telling a rotting fish that it stinks. Come to think of it, polititions, of both parties, are VERY MUCH like rotting fish, THEY STICK!!!

greg334 · Sep 22, 2009

Layout,
Wilson didn't call him a liar, he said "you lie". Now there is a difference in the respect that he was calling the guy out on one issue - which in face Obama has lied about.

layoutshooter · Sep 22, 2009

Correct. That is what happened. He should have called he a liar as well. After all, he IS a liar. After all, if you lie about this issue you most likely lie about other therefor you are a liar. Call it like it is. No matter how you cut it a stike is not a ball.

letzrockexpress · Sep 22, 2009

layoutshooter said:
I don't understand how telling a liar that he/she/it is lying is wrong. That is just telling the truth, that is kind of refreshing. Obama IS a liar. Wilson may be too, after all, he too is only a lowely politition. Just remember the old saying "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach go into retail and those who can't hack retail go into politics!!" Obama IS a PROFESSIONAL polition, has NEVER held a REAL job. The fact that he has made politics his profession PROVES he is a LIAR!!! Calling a liar a liar is no different than telling a rotting fish that it stinks. Come to think of it, polititions, of both parties, are VERY MUCH like rotting fish, THEY STICK!!!

Um, does Cabella's qualify as retail?

layoutshooter · Sep 22, 2009

Um, no, not when I first hired on, prior to the Cabela brother's selling out. I was hired on as a "Product Specialist". That was a managment level position. We tested and helped to design new products and outfitted people going on high end hunting/fishing/safaris etc. I even outfitted a U of Mich forensic palenatologist (spelling is wrong most likely) who was doing a special for the National Geographic channel. They had found an entire wollely mamoth frozen in the perma-frost (that was NOT perma frost only 10,000 years ago, global warming back then too).

The Product Specialists had to pass an extensive written test on the outdoors. Hunting, fishing, proper methods for dressing in extreme heat or cold, boating, horse tack (did poorly on that part) etc etc. I only scored a 95%, darn horse stuff!! They no longer have that position.

AFTER the Cabela brothers sold out to Morgan/Chase-Stanley THEY turned into a true retail vs. an outfitter group. IF you hunting or fished you would understand the very big difference.

AFTER that I DID go to Gander Mountain, true retail, as a fishing department manager, which is where I formed my opinion on the lack of brains in retail which is why I know longer work in that field. I found it amazing just how much trouble you can get into by INCREASING both total sales by 63% in 6 months and bottom line by 32% in the same time frame. NEVER, I repeat, NEVER, prove a high-powered retail buyer that he is WRONG about what would sell in an area. They hired me because I was born and raised there, knew the "River" like the back of my hand, knew what worked out there and then yelled at me for trying to sell the stuff that would sell. THAT is when I went into expediting.

There, now go find something ELSE to ridicule me about. Make your self feel better.

greg334 · Sep 22, 2009

I wonder what Mammoth tastes like?

layoutshooter · Sep 22, 2009

LOL!! I don't know. That one was more "freeze-dried" than just frozen. I did watch the special when it aired. It was a good program and it was kinda cool to see that guy dressed as I had outfitted him. The biggest compliment was when he returned to the store a year later, with 10 grad students to have me outfit them for a trip to Siberia. He asked for me since I did him such a good job. That was close to a $10,000 sale to outfit that entire group.

By the way, National Geographic paid to outfit the professor, BUT, OUR tax dollars paid for the students, U of M covered the costs. Good thing I was doing the outfitting, I only sold them what they REALLY needed.

tallcal101 · Sep 22, 2009

OVM,my sincere apology,I keep getting the Taiwanese,the Brit's, hogs and pigs mixed up.Anyway,it's all good theater.I guess at the rate things are down sliding for the GOP we can start an international competition reality show soon between the three of us.Think of the possibilities,the potential name calling and to hell with decorum,:we're here to make the Brits and the Taiwanwers' look second rate,who cares about the peoples business.
Your foolish and childish to think the American people,all the people (including your splinter group who it was meant to fire up) didn't get Joe's preconceived idea.

You defend Joe all you want,and for God's sake don't even think there were any subtle racial connotations involved. It was ,in my opinion, simply inexcusable behavior. The President happens to be a more forgiving man then me.Remember,Obama was black before he became President.Joe tried to light a fire,and the exact people who blazed are the same minority to who voted for McCain. The rest of us think it was idiotic,and there's more of us then you,a whole lot more.
I feel one hell of allot more save and optimistic then I did for the 8 years the madman was at the controls.

Moot · Sep 23, 2009

Joe Wilson's outburst was wrong. Wrong time, wrong place. This was the President's address to the Senate, Congress and the nation, not an open floor debate!

His remark was not much different than the screwball protesters from Kansas that disrupt military funerals. Wrong time, wrong place, totally classless.

As for the race thing, it has always been about race with Obama. Everyone who voted for him simply because he is black is a racist. Yea, that goes for you white liberals too. Especially you white liberals!

layoutshooter · Sep 23, 2009

I am not sure that I agree with that Moot, maybe it WAS the time for open debate. All that we have been hearing is what the President wants. I really don't care what he wants. I want to hear some TRUE open debate. About INCREASED cost, rationing, fewer doctors etc, all things that are at least POSSIBLE under a government run program. I want to hear the TRUTH about Medicare, is it broke? What about Medicade, does it REALLY only re-pay providers .70 on the dollar for services provided? Are we going to be FORCED to buy health insurance? If so, what part of the Constitution allows for that? What about crimianl invaders to our country? Are we going to continue to pay for their health care? You see Moot, I don't TRUST Obama or anyone else in Washington and I feel that ANYTHING that might "stir the pot" so to speak and FORCE open debate is a GOOD thing. It is sure NOT happening now!!

AS to what TC said, simple math TalCal, Politition = liar, Obama = politition, Obama = liar. Telling him that he "lies" was just a fact. They ALL do. Why do you trust him or any of them for that matter?