It's just tissue
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No he doesn't. He thinks something that hasn't been born has actually been born. He's very confused.
He certainly is 'confused'. What he describes as "selling the body parts of children" is what the law calls "donating tissue, with the express consent of the individual from whom it was obtained, to be used for potentially life saving research by a legitimate organization." Just as I will donate any usable organs upon my death, hoping something good can come of it, many people make that choice, and Planned Parenthood simply transfers the tissue to verified research facilities. They do not "sell" anything.
He [and every other "leader" who was fooled] looked no further than the highly edited tape provided by one crusader who has made it his life's work to reverse Roe vs Wade, and they should be apologizing for their stupidity in accepting it without any further scrutiny.
Should it succeed, do people think abortion will cease to exist? Women have been terminating unwanted pregnancies for time out of mind, and they will continue to do so, one way or another. No one else knows her reasons, and no one else can make her decision.
He [and every other "leader" who was fooled] looked no further than the highly edited tape provided by one crusader who has made it his life's work to reverse Roe vs Wade, and they should be apologizing for their stupidity in accepting it without any further scrutiny.
Should it succeed, do people think abortion will cease to exist? Women have been terminating unwanted pregnancies for time out of mind, and they will continue to do so, one way or another. No one else knows her reasons, and no one else can make her decision.
Abortions are rarely performed after 20 weeks - that preemie was 24 weeks gestation.
Any idea what 16 weeks in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit costs? Of course it was worth every penny to the parents who wanted her, but how many unwanted babies should we spend that kind of astronomical money on?
Any idea what 16 weeks in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit costs? Of course it was worth every penny to the parents who wanted her, but how many unwanted babies should we spend that kind of astronomical money on?
John: the baby in the OP was very much wanted, and I think her parents would agree with you, and consider it worth it. If abortion is made illegal again [or just nearly impossible to get, as is the current aim of conservative legislation], there will be a lot more such preemies, and who should pay for them, if their parents cannot? Will insurance cover them? If so, what happens to everyone's rates?
JohnWC
Veteran Expediter
But you see that's the point as adults we know what causes a pregnancy if a child is not wanted there are ways to prevent it from happening the problem is that people are not held responsible for their actions in some states they will go after the father and garnish his wages to insure the child is taken care of and that all bills are paid that is the way it should be.
Come on Ragman - we need a topical picture here!
Isn't the divorce rate high enough already?!
Seriously: people will have sex, it's not going to stop. But we can stop blaming them when unanticipated events occur, and demanding they give over the rest of their lives to paying for it - because that's what a child means. If you want a child, it's a price you're glad to pay, but if not, it's just wrong to require it.
They have to be punished somehow. Requiring it seems reasonable. <snort>
That's the popular thing to say on many talk radio shows, but what does it have to do with abortion? Most women are attempting to be responsible, by not bringing an unwanted child into the world. Most were also trying to be responsible in preventing a pregnancy, but people aren't perfect, and neither is any birth control, so we deal with what we've got.
They could do a better job of being responsible if some right wing legislators didn't make it harder, by restricting the teaching of birth control to adolescents, and the obtaining of it by adult women [defunding Planned Parenthood is just stupid!].
Punishment for having sex is precisely what it is, but it's only the women who pay for it. [I mean more than just money!]
Keeping in mind that I am most definitely pro choice, that statement is 180 degrees the exact opposite of responsible. Responsible is accepting the consequences of your actions, not erasing them so you don't have to.
Abortion is what it is, let's not try and nobilize it to the point of elevating the aborter to that of forthright, gracious and magnanimous.
When a pregnancy is the result of a failure of contraceptives, is that really a "consequence" that a woman should accept? Nobody said anything about "forthright, gracious, and magnanimous" [?!] but reasonable is a good goal. It doesn't seem reasonable to require a woman to go through with a pregnancy and birth, then choose to give up her child for adoption or spend the rest of her life mothering, because her chosen birth control failed.
I don't think I implied it's one of the main reasons, just that it happens. Because some seem to think women use abortion as a form of contraception, which doesn't seem even remotely reasonable to me. Sure, you can find the odd moron who claims to do it, but that's not representative of the women who choose to terminate a pregnancy.
One consequence many women are not made aware of: some antibiotics can negate the contraceptive effect of birth control pills. I've never, ever, had a doctor mention that, when prescribing antibiotics. So any resulting pregnancy would be my own fault?
One consequence many women are not made aware of: some antibiotics can negate the contraceptive effect of birth control pills. I've never, ever, had a doctor mention that, when prescribing antibiotics. So any resulting pregnancy would be my own fault?