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Is this it for Ron Paul?
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RLENT
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No, actually you won't ..... which is why it is not worth playing the "game" that you are trying to play.
As but one example is the leadership issue - I have provided multiple examples of it (some in this thread even) - yet you choose to ignore it, and merely spew the same old assertions (with nothing to back it up)
To me, that means either one of two things:
1. You either can't see it ...
or
2. You don't want to see it ......
In either case, it's essentially the same game and I'm just not interested in playing it ......
NO specifics. You play games, all the time. No use playing with you either.
Thanks Greg, THAT is more of what I am looking for. I did not see anything about doing away with the federal background checks though, I would have expected to see something more on that. Nothing on repealing barrel length restrictions. I would LOVE a chance to "question" Dr. Paul, in public, my self. NO advance on the questions. Again, just as Obama, NOTHING personal, just policy questions.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
I've given you specifics on leadership .... yet you still assert the same thing. Case closed.
Oh, I didn't say that there was no use in playing with you ... just that I had interest in playing the game you are trying to play.
There's a huge difference in between being a player .... and a piece ....
.... or a broken piece ....
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No, you have NOT given me ANY specifics on leadership, he has never been in a leadership position. He has NEVER ran a budget, NEVER ran a work force etc. IF you cannot show be records of this type of experience, case closed.
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No, you have NOT given me ANY specifics on leadership, he has never been in a leadership position. He has NEVER ran a budget, NEVER ran a work force etc. IF you cannot show be records of this type of experience, case closed.
My cousin Chuckie has exactly the experience you require for the POTUS: he was manager at a Cici's Pizza place - ran a budget and a work force, too.
It wasn't really his fault that the place went bankrupt - happens to the very best businessmen, doesn't it?
RLENT
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Tell him that Cici's was at a PX, BX, or NEX on a base and Chuckie will be golden for a shoo-in .....My cousin Chuckie has exactly the experience you require for the POTUS: he was manager at a Cici's Pizza place - ran a budget and a work force, too.
It wasn't really his fault that the place went bankrupt - happens to the very best businessmen, doesn't it?
RLENT
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He's in a leadership position right now .. however you can't see it apparently
All false.
Why would one give a picture book to a blind man ?
No, you have NOT given me ANY specifics on leadership, he has never been in a leadership position. He has NEVER ran a budget, NEVER ran a work force etc. IF you cannot show be records of this type of experience, case closed.
My cousin Chuckie has exactly the experience you require for the POTUS: he was manager at a Cici's Pizza place - ran a budget and a work force, too.
It wasn't really his fault that the place went bankrupt - happens to the very best businessmen, doesn't it?
Gee, did I NOT say a LARGE budget or work force? My last budget That I had control of and responsibility for was not LARGE by government standards, only 70 million per year. How sad is it to think that a potential president has never had control of a budget that "Chuckie" had? How many employees did "Chuckie" have? Mr. Paul will have to manage the LARGEST single work force in the country. The "Agency" I worked for had 30,000 employees, bet "Chuckie" did not have that many. How many employees has Paul been in charge of? 20? 30? Any?
Your cousin did not even come close to what I "require". The CLOSEST would be a State Governor or someone who runs a huge private business.
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AMonger
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Goodbye to civilization? How can you say that?
You cannot have common sense from our elected officials if those who vote don't have any. Looking at what we have elected in the last 100 years it seems that we don't.
As to Dr. Paul, I hear lots of "talk" from him, but just as the rest running, zero specifics. ONE of the things I did not like about Obama was his total lack of executive experience. Dr. Paul has none. I have seen no indication that he can turn his ideas into practical application.
In other words, he has talked the talked but never has walked the walk.
Yes, and the others do have a track reord of implementing their ideas. Now let's look at their ideas and decide what you want implemented.
"Oh, sure, he's a tyrant, but look how good he is at it!"
Can Ron Paul save the country and Bill of Rights from destruction? Maybe not, but he has the best shot at it, because he's the only one proposing to try. It's the same issue of whether we want Obama to be successful. Being that his agenda is destructive to freedom, private property, and Western Civilization, the answer is no. Same with Romney, Gingrich, Santorum et al.: They may have a track record of being able to implement their ideas, and THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DON'T WANT.
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
A congressman is NOT in a "leadership" position. In the Federal Government ONLY the President is in a "leadership" position.
AMonger
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Being that he's the only one who will even try...
A ridiculous bet that you would lose. Not only is Dr. Paul more intelligent than either of us, he's been a backer of gun rights for decades. You can be sure he's well-informed on the issue. It would be a stupid bet to make.
You're like a guy in a singles bar who rejects a beautiful, nearly perfect woman because she's not a TEN and ends up leaving with Rosanne Barr. What are your options? Is there a different cadidate whose better on the issues? I can tell you, emphatically, no.
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
"A ridiculous bet that you would lose. Not only is Dr. Paul more intelligent than either of us, he's been a backer of gun rights for decades. You can be sure he's well-informed on the issue. It would be a stupid bet to make."
Do YOU know where the restrictions on "shotgun" magazine restrictions came from at the Federal level? Few do. I do. I would be willing to bet that Dr. Paul does not, nothing I have read suggests that he would.
I would have liked to see the former Sec of Defense, Mr. Gates, running. HE meets my idea of a "leader" and a man of leadership and experience. Of course the "spook bigots" would cry foul all day. It seems that the ONLY experience wanted by some is "academic" only. REAL life is NOT important.
Do YOU know where the restrictions on "shotgun" magazine restrictions came from at the Federal level? Few do. I do. I would be willing to bet that Dr. Paul does not, nothing I have read suggests that he would.
I would have liked to see the former Sec of Defense, Mr. Gates, running. HE meets my idea of a "leader" and a man of leadership and experience. Of course the "spook bigots" would cry foul all day. It seems that the ONLY experience wanted by some is "academic" only. REAL life is NOT important.
AMonger
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Is anybody in the GOP field not a chicken hawk, besides Ron Paul?
Al Franken, in his Rush Limbaugh hit piece of a book, writes up a fictional account of GOP chicken hawks, Limbaugh and Gingrich prominent among them, forced to go into the field and fight. They all cried and wet themselves. In the end, as they were being evac'ed out on a chopper, one of them said something about how this would look on a second Tuesday following the first Monday of a month in the future. They all looked at each other and silently reached an agreement, and then took out their knives and plunged them into the thigh of the man on their right.
I'd love to see a townhall format where some member of the public could bring this up and publicly label them all as chickenhawks, except the only honorable man in Washington, of course, who'd be standing there, looking on, the only one who served his country.
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
Dr. Paul served honorably in a non-combat, non-military position. I thank him for his service.
Honorable military service, unfortunately is NOT looked upon as a "plus" these days. or Obama would not be in office. It is a non-issue.
Honorable military service, unfortunately is NOT looked upon as a "plus" these days. or Obama would not be in office. It is a non-issue.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
Guess what... He's NOT.
So AGAIN: you may not love Ron Paul, but WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS? If Ron Paul is proposing even 75% of what's necessary and every other candidate is going the other direction, it seems your choice is obvious.
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
ROTFLMAO ......
The only thing I will say is that your a vastly different understanding of what leadership is than I do ..... and that's very definitely not a compliment ....
I have stated what I want. Mr. Paul only meets about 20% of my "practical" needs. Theory does not count. I will vote as I always do, AGAINST the one I like least.
My "choice" as far as I see it is to not vomit when I vote, as always.
Off too bed. Sleep is FAR more important then trading barbs with anyone in here!