Is this it for Ron Paul?

[davekc]

Seen this from ABC and seems to be getting played a lot on other networks. Probably not what his supporters want to hear.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...ul-see-himself-in-the-oval-office-not-really/

 

[RLENT]

Dave,

I already addressed this in another post - often the way the media tries to spin things are quite different than the reality of the matter.

Despite Terry Moron's best efforts to make this into something it is not, it's really going anywhere.

One word: humility

 

[RLENT]

Try this one instead (also from ABC):

Ron Paul Raises $13 Million, Has Long-Term Strategy

 

[davekc]

Considering the same source, one flies in the face of the other.
Almost forgot, I think that 13 million was raised prior to the sourced comments.

 

[RLENT]

Considering the same source, one flies in the face of the other.

Heheheh ... ya I thought you find that humorous

Almost forgot, I think that 13 million was raised prior to the sourced comments.

I'm tracking contributions to the campaign daily ... although only roughly - not precisely, down to the penny.

It appears that since the Iowa Caucus, contributions have increased (there was little slowdown after the last moneybomb) and are now running at somewhere between a rate of at least $100,000 to $150,000 per day (just from memory)

That does include money donated to the Super Brochure Project or donations to RevolutionPAC, both of which are outside of federal donation limits.

 

[davekc]

I would say out of who is running, he has the most dedicated supporters. Just no way to argue that.

 

[skyraider]

Considering the same source, one flies in the face of the other.
Almost forgot, I think that 13 million was raised prior to the sourced comments.

13 million or 50 million spent to be a President of the USA and the job pays 400,000 a year. Due the math. Would you pay 300,000 to get a sprinter to earn 80,000 a year? Doesn't appear to be frugal with your money, does it? Oh, I forgot that 13million, its for the special interest folks out there, you know them, they are memebers of the I've Got Mine Club and the bridges to no where land deals,,,,,,,,,,,the beat goes on................

Hey I didnt vote for Obama either, I do some things right every once in awhile.

 

[layoutshooter]

13 million or 50 million spent to be a President of the USA and the job pays 400,000 a year. Due the math. Would you pay 300,000 to get a sprinter to earn 80,000 a year? Doesn't appear to be frugal with your money, does it? Oh, I forgot that 13million, its for the special interest folks out there, you know them, they are memebers of the I've Got Mine Club and the bridges to no where land deals,,,,,,,,,,,the beat goes on................

Hey I didnt vote for Obama either, I do some things right every once in awhile.

You can't expect a politician to have any form of common sense.

 

[RLENT]

13 million or 50 million spent to be a President of the USA and the job pays 400,000 a year.

Dr. Paul has stated he will only take a salary of roughly $40,000 (slightly under) per year, if elected.

Due the math. Would you pay 300,000 to get a sprinter to earn 80,000 a year? Doesn't appear to be frugal with your money, does it?

Some folks have motivations other than money or power .... duty being one of them.

Other folks have no capability of understanding such motivations.

Oh, I forgot that 13 million, its for the special interest folks out there ....

Yup - considering that the three largest sources of donations for Dr. Paul come from those who are employed by US Army, US Airforce, and the US Navy, that would be a correct assessment - they certainly do have a "special interest" ....

As of the last time I looked, he raises more money from those in military than all other candidates combined.

He also has the largest number of individual donors out of any of the other candidates (except maybe Obama), hasn't accepted PAC money, and his donations from individuals employed by large corporate interests are relatively insignificant when compared to other candidates .... look at it:

RON PAUL - Top Contributors

Now compare that to Romney:

MITT ROMNEY - Top Contributors

or Perry

RICK PERRY - Top Contributors

or any of them

Presidential Candidate Top Fundraisers Comparision

Dr. Paul can't be bought - so they don't even try.

 

[RLENT]

You can't expect a politician to have any form of common sense.

There's a lot of folks who one can't expect to have any form of common sense - it ain't limited to politicians.

 

[RLENT]

Wisdom for the ages:

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." - Sun Tzu, The Art of War, Chapter 4​

 

[Turtle]

“There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” - Same guy

 

[mxzane933]

If the facts favor truth movement are red, then all the mainstream media news and info outlets says that their blue.

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[cheri1122]

You can't expect a politician to have any form of common sense.


I can, and I do. People who truly love their country can, and if we don't, we can say goodbye to civilization.
The US is in big trouble, but we're not beat yet, and if we demand wisdom, integrity, and common sense from our elected leaders, we can't ever be beat.
We just have to demand it, and Dr Paul is a good place to start.

 

[layoutshooter]

You can't expect a politician to have any form of common sense.


I can, and I do. People who truly love their country can, and if we don't, we can say goodbye to civilization.
The US is in big trouble, but we're not beat yet, and if we demand wisdom, integrity, and common sense from our elected leaders, we can't ever be beat.
We just have to demand it, and Dr Paul is a good place to start.

Goodbye to civilization? How can you say that? There was civilization long before the US came about and will be after we are gone.

You cannot have common sense from our elected officials if those who vote don't have any. Looking at what we have elected in the last 100 years it seems that we don't.

As to Dr. Paul, I hear lots of "talk" from him, but just as the rest running, zero specifics. ONE of the things I did not like about Obama was his total lack of executive experience. Dr. Paul has none. I have seen no indication that he can turn his ideas into practical application.

In other words, he has talked the talked but never has walked the walk.

 

[cheri1122]

Goodbye to civilization? How can you say that? There was civilization long before the US came about and will be after we are gone.

I meant civilized society in the US, not everywhere.

You cannot have common sense from our elected officials if those who vote don't have any.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Even a broken clock....

Looking at what we have elected in the last 100 years it seems that we don't.

Or perhaps those who do have been preoccupied with their own lives & families & community & the many matters of day to day life, and far too trusting that elected officials will perform competently.


As to Dr. Paul, I hear lots of "talk" from him, but just as the rest running, zero specifics. ONE of the things I did not like about Obama was his total lack of executive experience.

Executive experience, like Bush had? [snort] Mr Romney has some, [eliminating jobs for greater profit] and Mr Gingrich has some [selling influence & bad advice] but those habits are what helped get us into this mess.

Dr. Paul has none.
Dr Paul has been a successful legislator, physician, husband and father for many many years - his character is beyond reproach.
He isn't interested in legislating people's private lives or medical decisions [as are all the others], he is interested in returning the US to the path of the Constitution, before we are totally bankrupted [financially and morally] by the endless 'empire building & interventionism' of his predecessors. We simply can't afford to run other countries, even if we knew what's best - and I don't think we do.

I have seen no indication that he can turn his ideas into practical application.

Other than the fact that his ideas were the Founding Fathers' ideas first. And they worked pretty well, until the corrupt & morally bankrupt politicians began twisting them out of any semblance of their former values.
At the very least, he won't be turning his ideas into the enrichment of himself & his cronies, as every other candidate has, to some degree, or trying to legislate the religious views the others make such a huge show of demonstrating. Right along with their thinly veiled elitist racist views on the very people they want to represent.
He know what the POTUS is supposed to do, which is more than the others can demonstrate.

In other words, he has talked the talked but never has walked the walk.

The only candidate who has is Obama.

 

[layoutshooter]

We have NOT elected a president worth a bump in my lifetime. PERIOD.

Our "society" or "civilization" has been going down the tubes for a VERY long time. Dr. Paul cannot change that. Very few want it changed. Far too many want to be "free" to act like irresponsible pigs, and do.

As to moral bankruptcy, you cannot legislate morals.(anything goes, if it feels good do it, we have reaped what we have sowed) Dr. Paul will NOT reverse the "moral decline". He says that he won't interfere in peoples lives. Who's morality is right? Who's "morality" will he restore? How?

Legislative experience is NOT executive experience. Never has been, never will be. He has no experience with large work forces. Has never been responsible for a large budget.

As too his "legislative experience" I have read, not been there so I cannot confirm it, that he does not "compromise" much. I have NO problem with that. My question is, how will he be able to get along with the congress? It will look pretty much as it does today. They and he don't see eye to eye now. How, with no leadership experience will he be able to "lead" them down the path he envisions?

 

[RLENT]

Blah, blah, blah ... pessimism .... negativism .... apathy ..... defeatism ... same ol' same ol' ....

 

[scottm4211]

Saying there's never been a good president in your lifetime is an extremely telling statement.

 

[RLENT]

Interesting take by Bud:

Evangelicals turning from Perry to Paul
Once, he was the darling of The Response prayer rally.

Now, Gov. Rick Perry is The Reject.

Five months after welcoming 30,000 believers to Reliant Stadium in Houston, Perry is struggling to regain evangelicals' support after a third-place showing in Iowa among religious conservatives.

Nobody was surprised when Rick Santorum won church voters in that predominantly Catholic state.

But their No. 2 choice was born-again libertarian Ron Paul.

Paul adviser Doug Wead, a former adviser to both Presidents Bush, said evangelicals also favor Paul because he opposes abortion and because "Christians have learned that the Constitution is our friend."

It was Wead who coined George W. Bush's term "compassionate conservative."

Paul, a low-key Southern Baptist churchgoer, is worrying evangelical kingmakers such as James Dobson and the Rev. Don Wildmon because "they fear losing power," Wead said.

"They wanted Perry. They didn't want [Mitt] Romney. They wanted one of their own."

Paul is finding votes in a growing divide among evangelicals.

Some want a strong government to promote Judeo-Christian values and aggressively defend Israel.

Others want a thrifty government that leaves most decisions to the state level and lets Christianity flourish on its own.

"If we allow the federal government to dictate, it will dictate the wrong way more often," Wead said.

If Israel were threatened, Paul would act, Wead said: "But he believes in the Constitution, and only Congress should decide when we go to war in the Middle East, not pundits on TV."

Perry started his campaign too late and too unprepared, Wead said.

Evangelical leaders all but drafted Perry, who attends a Southern Baptist megachurch, after Mike Huckabee bowed out and Newt Gingrich faltered.

Now, with Santorum surging, Dobson, Wildmon and former presidential candidate Gary Bauer have called a summit next weekend in Central Texas to plan their next move.

"It's really all about them and that little group keeping power," Wead said.

In South Carolina, Tea Party leader and former Michele Bachmann supporter Javan Browder of Tigerville wouldn't consider voting for Paul. But he described Perry's problem with evangelicals.

"I always assumed he was a solid conservative," Browder said.

"But then I looked at his Gardasil mandate" -- the short-lived 2007 Texas order requiring girls to be vaccinated against HPV -- "and he's just another big-government guy."

Browder said Perry turned out to be just the "flavor of the month."

Maybe it's Paul's month.

Bud Kennedy's column appears Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

Evangelicals turning from Perry to Paul