is cdl required

rts0073

Seasoned Expediter
does anyone know if you have to have a cdl to drive a van and if any companies lease you on without a cdl and do vans have to enter the scales?
 

rts0073

Seasoned Expediter
could you let me know of some companies that will lease in regards question #2 and thanks for the reply
 

ACE

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Most major companies require a CDL for a van driver because they want you to haul hazardous-materials some times.

Some midsize and smaller carriers do not require a CDL for vans if under 10,000 Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. Most vans are under this.
But if you are going to carry Hazardous materials no matter what the company size you will need a CDL with Haz-Mat endoresement.

When hauling Haz-Mat you will need to cross scales.
You will need to log also.
Each State has different rules for who should stop at the scales when driving a van with a non hazard load.
I never crossed a scale in a van.

Hope this helps you
 

ACE

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
I suggest you go go to the home page on EO and you will see a list on the right side with carriers. Contact them to see if the are taking vans on. Then ask if you need a CDL.
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
I agree with the frogger on all three points, but there are always exceptions.

Some expedite carriers, including FedEx Custom Critical, require you to have a Hazmat qualification on you driver's license so, in order to get that, you will need a minimum of a class C CDL. Nowadays that's a minimum of $94 for DHS background check. There are lots of carriers that don't haul Hazmat nor require the CDL or Hazmat endorsement for cargo van operators.

Which State's scales you are required to cross depends on who you ask. Many States differ in their definition of commercial vehicle. Michigan, for example, requires all trucks designed for the purpose of transporting goods must cross their scales. Some Law Enforcement Officers and drivers disagree on the interpretation of Michigan Regulations; best to enter the scales with a cargo van in MI. Kentucky used to require vans, but no longer do so; many drivers here disagree with my findings. Wisconsin and Iowa also require vans to scale. Many State's signs say "All commercial vehicles enter scales"; this may or may not apply to your van. Having or not having a CDL has no bearing on whether or not you need to enter a scale.
 

buckeyewildman

Seasoned Expediter
Bolt express is one company that does not require a cdl there are others out there but i don,t know much about them or who they are i spend 3 yrs with bolt decent co.
 

csands007

Seasoned Expediter
Try Prestige Delivery, thier Expediting division, if you go with them let me know how they are, they talk a good game
Chuck
 

Turtle

Administrator
Staff member
Retired Expediter
Hauling HAZMAT in a cargo van, in and of itself, isn't enough to make you have to enter the scales. It must be a placardable amount, which, generally means, anything that is placardable only in amounts of 1001 pound or more. This includes paint, solvents, batteries, most all Class 9 cargo, etc.

A 55 gallon drum of HAZMAT paint is going to weigh in at around 750 pounds, give or take. You have to have a HAZMAT endorsement to haul it, but it's not a placardable amount, and therefor does not require you to log or scale.

HAZMAT that is placardable in any amount, even one pound, with few exceptions, cannot even be carried in a van. This includes inhalation hazards, oxidizers, explosives, most poisons, etc.

Even if, for some reason, you choose to not obtain a HAZMAT endorsement for your CDL, I highly recommend studying the HAZMAT sections of the CDL handbook. You'll be more aware, and more informed, about the vehicles that are all around you out here. Same holds true for the CDL sections if you just have a regular operator's license.

Personally, I think that every driver of any motor vehicle should have to take the CDL test, even if all they ever drive is a Camry or the Soccer Mommy Van.

Slow and steady, even in expediting, wins the race - Aesop
 

mhoy40

Expert Expediter
not nescesarily a cdl,but depending on where you live you may need a chauffers liscences,like in michigan,im sure theres others,and some carriers require a chauffers lisc. at least.
 

fastman_1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Prestige is a Large Courier Service trying to make a splash in the expedite pond. they do 100% NLM Loads.When Freight is slow count on doing those great cross town loads for $10.00.I've been there done that before they started their expedite divison.






































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csands007

Seasoned Expediter
Pedtige Expediting does not do same as their Prestige Delivery which does mostly Medicine and Staples products, the expediting bid on loads off same board majors do. Only seen few of their expediters on road never had a chance to talk to one.
Chuck
 

jrcase

Seasoned Expediter
I am with Presitge. The expediting division has nothing to do with the delivery division. They are a great bunch of folks there. alot of one way trips, but that suits me fine. I am doing it part time right now and just enjoy getting out on the road once in a while. I like Prestige becuase they do not have any Qualcomm fees, no problems if you want to be unavailable, no problems if you turn down loads. Very laid back, unlike some of the others.
 

mhoy40

Expert Expediter
in mich its a chauffers,which means class c but is called a chauffers at the sec.of state.same differance.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
>in mich its a chauffers,which means class c but is called a
>chauffers at the sec.of state.same differance.

Sorry but the Michigan chauffeur's license is not equal to a class C CDL.

The chauffeur's license is given to anyone who is over 16 years old, has 10 questions and it is really easy.

The CDL is only given to someone over 21 and requires a road test.

The chauffeur's is a requirement for the CDL in the state and should be eliminated.
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
The chauffeur's license is given to anyone who is over 16 years old, has 10 questions and it is really easy.

both inquisitive easy boys and girls??

sorry. couldn't resist.



Jack Berry
 
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