IRAN ships to protrol near american waters

tbubster

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The Iranian navy plans to move naval vessels out of the Persian Gulf and into the Atlantic Ocean, "near maritime borders of the United States," the Tehran Times reported Tuesday.

According to the English-language paper based in Tehran, the announcement came from a top Iranian naval officer on Tuesday.

“As the global arrogance (forces of imperialism) have a (military) presence near our sea borders, we also plan to have a strong presence near the U.S. sea borders with the help of the soldiers who are loyal to the vali-e faqih (supreme jurisprudent),” said Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari, as quoted and paraphrased by the Tehran Times.

"We've been pushing freedom of the seas for years and the Iranian navy can go wherever it wants," said Pentagon Spokesman Capt. John Kirby.

Iranians might face a challenge in refueling its fleet. Some in the Pentagon have speculated it could gas up in Venezuela, whose President, Hugo Chavez, is known to have a close relationship with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The Iranians gave no indication of when or what kind of vessels they might deploy, but the announced plan comes just months after Iran sent warships through the Suez following the fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. It was the first time Iran had moved ships into the Mediterranean and the move put Israel on high alert.

The naval unit plans to establish direct contact with the U.S. when it hits the Gulf of Mexico, a commander in the Iranian navy said. Officials in the Pentagon strongly denied any planned port visits by the Iranians.

One senior official echoed Capt. Kirby in saying that Iran has the pleasure of moving wherever it desires in international waters. But with known intent to approach U.S. maritime borders, he added, "they might have some company."



Read more: Iranian Navy Plans To Send Ships Near U.S. Waters | Fox News

Yep lets cut our defence budget that sounds real smart.
 

AMonger

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Our defense budget is more than adequate to handle the non-threat of a sovereign nation sending their navy into international waters.

Ever see Whale Wars on Animal Planet? I love that show, mostly to see the leftist vegan kooks screw up repeatedly. I'm guessing life aboard an Iranian navy vessel looks very similar.
 

RLENT

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I say: tell 'em to stop on by .....

Pilot should open up a maritime refueling facility down on the Gulf ..... free showers for all crew with every 5,000 gallons of bunker oil purchased, and double points for the first visit of each ship.

And they ought load those ships up with plenty of authentic, hand-woven Persian rugs (good quality is hard to come by) and anyone who is qualified as a great cook and wants to come here and open a restaurant offering Iranian cuisine ..... we need more dine-out choices, the Mexican and Chinese stuff is great ... but:

..... variety is the spice of Life .....
 
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moose

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The Iranians gave no indication of when or what kind of vessels they might deploy, but the announced plan comes just months after Iran sent warships through the Suez following the fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. It was the first time Iran had moved ships into the Mediterranean and the move put Israel on high alert.

Don't expect to read this on Fox/BBC/CNN or any other mind altering news network, but, Israel officials are still puzzled about this one.
they simply cannot believe the enemy can be SO stupid.
here is what happened in a nut shell.
the Iranian ships, loudly made a convoy across the tunnel, making sure the world is watching.
then they made a stop in Syria for 5 days, unloading 25 containers on the wide open dock.
with the world watching.
great.
then those 2 ships sail back down the coast to the red sea, and back to Iran.
all good. no one hurt .
end of story right ?

WRONG.
17 days later, a Greek rental ship stop in Syria, EXACTLY on the same open dock, picking up 23 of those same intermodel containers, in broad day light.
heading to Al'Arish, Egypt.(known to be the port of Gaza,)
in route, the Greek ship coasts alongside the Israeli see line.
Israel lunch a small military boat, when the officer asked to jump aboard, and look on the shipping manifests.
the drunken crew had no idea whats in the containers.
so why not ?
the boat is been kindly asked to stop for the night at an Israeli hotel, and happily agreed, ...free meal. !
overnight Israel offload those containers, and find over 40 TONS of deadly arsenals !
Hello ...Iran ... don't you know America & Israel have something called spy satellites ???
:)
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Iranian, or any other ships for that matter, do NOT have to get within US waters to do MAJOR damage to the US. They have been testing missiles that are capable of an EMP attack. They likely have access to a nuke warhead capable of doing that job. They need to be watched, CLOSELY!!

We would have NO problem keeping them out of our waters if they showed the attempt to cause conventional problems. NO additional expenses need be taken on to do that job. Stopping an attempt of an EMP attack will be FAR more difficult.
 

LDB

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Nothing or the wrong thing. Why should he break his perfect record now?
 

greg334

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You know it is apparent that no one think to read actually what he said, it looked like he wasn't going to do a thing but shoring up his poll numbers by putting out a series of moves to look like he is going to do something proud.

OK so he does bring ships here, there are an issue of some logistics problems and you honestly think that Obama is going to publish what he and the military is going to do? Seriously??
 

skyraider

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US Navy
Lets hope we are not asleep at the wheel on this one. No repeats of Pearl Harbor or the Twin Towers please! Its a long way from Iran to New York, anything could happen on the way.:eek:
 

OntarioVanMan

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Does the term..International Waters..mean anything to anyone? It means just that....WE don't own it.....there is NOTHING we can do legally...except watch....nothing Obama can do...or should do..except watch....this appears all for show....the Iranian officials can show the people back home that they are not scared of the big bad wolf...and plunck ships on the our doorstep.....kinda like stickin your tongue out at the school yard bully from behind a fence....LOL
 

skyraider

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US Navy
Does the term..International Waters..mean anything to anyone? It means just that....WE don't own it.....there is NOTHING we can do legally...except watch....nothing Obama can do...or should do..except watch....this appears all for show....the Iranian officials can show the people back home that they are not scared of the big bad wolf...and plunck ships on the our doorstep.....kinda like stickin your tongue out at the school yard bully from behind a fence....LOL

Maybe they will pull into Israel:eek:
 

purgoose10

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They are more than likely on the way here by invitation from O'bama. He wants to appologize for something. As far as attacking us, why? They have a friend in the white house, he will probably give them stimulus fuel.:eek:
 

skyraider

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US Navy
Re: IRAN ships to patrol near american waters

The Iranian navy plans to move naval vessels out of the Persian Gulf and into the Atlantic Ocean, "near maritime borders of the United States," the Tehran Times reported Tuesday.

According to the English-language paper based in Tehran, the announcement came from a top Iranian naval officer on Tuesday.

“As the global arrogance (forces of imperialism) have a (military) presence near our sea borders, we also plan to have a strong presence near the U.S. sea borders with the help of the soldiers who are loyal to the vali-e faqih (supreme jurisprudent),” said Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari, as quoted and paraphrased by the Tehran Times.

"We've been pushing freedom of the seas for years and the Iranian navy can go wherever it wants," said Pentagon Spokesman Capt. John Kirby.

Iranians might face a challenge in refueling its fleet. Some in the Pentagon have speculated it could gas up in Venezuela, whose President, Hugo Chavez, is known to have a close relationship with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadabad.

The Iranians gave no indication of when or what kind of vessels they might deploy, but the announced plan comes just months after Iran sent warships through the Suez following the fall of Egyptian President Hosing Mubarak. It was the first time Iran had moved ships into the Mediterranean and the move put Israel on high alert.

The naval unit plans to establish direct contact with the U.S. when it hits the Gulf of Mexico, a commander in the Iranian navy said. Officials in the Pentagon strongly denied any planned port visits by the Iranians.

One senior official echoed Capt. Kirby in saying that Iran has the pleasure of moving wherever it desires in international waters. But with known intent to approach U.S. maritime borders, he added, "they might have some company."



Read more: Iranian Navy Plans To Send Ships Near U.S. Waters | Fox News

Yep lets cut our defense budget that sounds real smart.

amen:rolleyes:
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Does the term..International Waters..mean anything to anyone? It means just that....WE don't own it.....there is NOTHING we can do legally...except watch....nothing Obama can do...or should do..except watch....this appears all for show....the Iranian officials can show the people back home that they are not scared of the big bad wolf...and plunck ships on the our doorstep.....kinda like stickin your tongue out at the school yard bully from behind a fence....LOL

What would YOU do? An EMP attack is a reality, NOT science fiction. That attack could be launched from international waters without a problem. IF that EMP blast was placed properly it will likely KILL 20-20 MILLION in the first 6 months after it is launched. MANY of those would likely be in Canada.

We have seen them testing missiles that could put a small nuke into the right place and altitude. They are "buddy buddy" with North Korea AND China both of which could supply them with the war head. Not to mention their OWN nuke program.

Your answer to this threat? Keep in mind, there is NO defense against this type of attack available in either the US or Canada.

OH YEAH, Japan launched the attacks on Pearl Harbor from international waters. Would you have gone after those ships BEFORE they attacked? I would have.
 
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greg334

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You know Layout, an EMP won't kill anyone - you know that.

BUT putting this in perspective of the world stage, an EMP right now by anyone but China will cripple China because of a lot of reasons that have to do with their financial system, even though it did not happen on their side of the earth. A lot of things pass through us, the United States and until they find a way around that, they will be brought down by our systems going down too - no way really around it.

AND

Iran is posturing not because of us, but because they are dealing with internal issues. There are issues with the people and as I have been told before, and believe, the people will end up changing the government again when they get tired of them as they did for the past 2500 years.
 

AMonger

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OH YEAH, Japan launched the attacks on Pearl Harbor from international waters. Would you have gone after those ships BEFORE they attacked? I would have.

So all any furren leader who wants to goad you into an attack has to do is sail his navy off your coastline IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS? Sounds like the making of another Gulf of Tonkin incident, and it would leave you very susceptible to false flag attacks.

Being that hot headed and predictable has consequences. It sounds like the reaction of a dog on a leash who chases a cat that walks by. The cat has learned how long the chain is and walks just out of reach. Sure enough, here comes the stupid dog at full speed, and he chokes as the chain stops him short. If cats could laugh, it'd be laughing.

You may think you don't care about global opinion, but if President Layoutshooter makes a practice of shooting up foreign navies IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS, he's going to get an education, maybe through getting HIS navy shot up in international waters.

You ever watch football with someone who, on nearly every fourth down, urges the coach to GO FOR IT? They have no appreciation for the consequences of their actions. There's a reason they don't go for it on fourth-and-one very often, even though you'd like to think they could gain a yard the vast majority of the time.

Likewise, there are many reasons, including legal, ethical, and moral ones, that you don't shoot up a foreign navy IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS during peacetime.

We may not like or trust Iran, but they have the same right as we do to send out their navy into international waters, even to the other side of the planet. We do the same.
 
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RLENT

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OH YEAH, Japan launched the attacks on Pearl Harbor from international waters. Would you have gone after those ships BEFORE they attacked? I would have.
Precisely why any persons of similar nature, temperament, and intelligence should never, ever be allowed in a position to make such decisions.

You are apparently talking about an "pre-emptive", unprovoked attack on military assets of a sovereign nation, legally operating in International Waters ..... based on what ..... what you "think" another nation might do ?

Simply unbelievable ....
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
You know Layout, an EMP won't kill anyone - you know that.

BUT putting this in perspective of the world stage, an EMP right now by anyone but China will cripple China because of a lot of reasons that have to do with their financial system, even though it did not happen on their side of the earth. A lot of things pass through us, the United States and until they find a way around that, they will be brought down by our systems going down too - no way really around it.

AND

Iran is posturing not because of us, but because they are dealing with internal issues. There are issues with the people and as I have been told before, and believe, the people will end up changing the government again when they get tired of them as they did for the past 2500 years.


The EMP attack it's self will not kill anyone. The result likely will. Estimates are very high. Some as high as 100 million.

Starvation, lack of fuel and water will be the problem. You know that.

Don't put anything past Iran. I don't put much past China either.
 
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