If You Could Change The Constitution.....

dieseldiva

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Found this article toady and thought it quite interesting, which led me to the question.....If you could change the Constitution, how would you change it and why? What parts of the article would you agree with??

Sunday Reflection: Changing the Constitution

By: Glenn Reynolds | 10/01/11 8:05 PM
Op-Ed Contributor

Last weekend I participated in an unusual event -- a conference on the prospects for a federal constitutional convention at Harvard Law School, co-sponsored with the Tea Party Patriots and Fix Congress First. (See the agenda at Conference on the Constitutional Convention : Harvard Law School, September 24-25, 2011). A wide variety of participants from both the left and the right mixed with surprising comfort and cordiality, and found numerous points of agreement. Something's just not right with the country, all agreed, and my comment that America has by far the worst political class in its history drew universal applause.

It's certainly true, as even a brief glance at the news will illustrate. When the country was founded, we had Jefferson, Madison, Washington and Franklin, among many other giants. Now we have ... well, a bunch of greedy pygmies, I'm tempted to say, except that calling them that would be an unfair insult to diminutive tribesmen.

But, of course, that in itself poses a problem for any new constitutional convention. The Constitution we have now is the product of Madison and those others. Would we get a better one from the likes of Nancy Pelosi and John Boehner? Probably not, and that was the cautionary note sounded by liberal Harvard Law professor Laurence Tribe. Tribe's concerns about the risks of a new constitutional convention sounded surprisingly similar to the concerns expressed by right-leaning radio host Rush Limbaugh. On the other hand, both the liberal law professor Sanford Levinson of the University of Texas, and the right-leaning law professor Randy Barnett of Georgetown, are more sanguine: Anything new that comes out of a convention, they note, will have to be approved by three-fourths of the states, and it's unlikely that anything too crazy could pass that test.

We may find out, given that dissatisfaction with the current situation continues to grow. According to an August Rasmussen poll, only 17 percent of Americans think the current government has the consent of the governed, and in a Gallup poll from last week, 49 percent of Americans thought the federal government poses an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens. Those are warning signs, which our political leaders would be well-advised to heed. Perhaps the threat of a constitutional convention will help focus their attention, and bring about improvement on its own. As T. Clay Whitehead once put it, the value of the sword of Damocles is that it hangs, not that it falls.

At any rate, in the spirit of the discussion, I have a few amendments of my own to propose:

# I think the Ninth Amendment, which reads, "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people," should be amended by adding at the end "and we really mean it!" Ditto the Tenth Amendment, which provides "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." These amendments would underscore that the federal government is one of limited and enumerated powers, and that those powers are islands in a sea of rights -- rather than rights being islands in a sea of generalized federal power.

# Any person, having been elected to the office of United States senator, shall be forever ineligible to be elected to the office of president of the United States. The purpose of this amendment isn't so much to protect the presidency, as to protect the Senate. Very few senators ever become president, but of the 100 people serving in the Senate at any given time, probably about 95 think they've got a shot. This causes them to treat their Senate service as a potential steppingstone, rather than an end in itself. Ban senators from higher office and you encourage them to focus on their jobs. Plus, a Senate that couldn't serve as a steppingstone might attract a better caliber of senator.

# The 16th Amendment, which provides for the income tax, should be amended to limit the progressivity of that tax. Right now, according to a 2009 report from the Tax Foundation, the income tax burden of the top 1 percent of taxpayers exceeds that of the bottom 95 percent. The top 50 percent of earners, meanwhile, paid over 97 percent of income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid less than 3 percent, and many not only paid no taxes but actually received money back via various refundable-credit schemes for low-income workers. You don't have to be an opponent of progressive taxation to recognize that such a narrow concentration of burdens poses risk in a democratic system.

# .Make Congress a part-time legislature. Limit it to meeting for 90 days per year, and make it illegal for members to reside in the District of Columbia the rest of the time. With members dispersed around the nation, the influence of K street will shrink -- and so will members' disconnect with the problems of regular Americans.

On top of this, you might add the usual term limits and balanced-budget amendments -- though I'd prefer one that simply cut Congress members' salaries and staff allowances in half whenever the federal budget is out of balance. I'm lukewarm on these proposals, but they'd probably do more good than harm.

On the other hand, given that we barely follow the Constitution now -- just look what's been done with the Commerce Clause -- it's possible that amendments won't make much of a difference. If voters focus on the kind of government they want, and don't fall for the distractions that the political class routinely deploys, we won't need a new constitutional convention. And if voters aren't up to that, then a convention probably won't do any good anyway.



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AMonger

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I would institute very harsh criminal penalties for any elected or appointed official who violates it, up to and including capital punishment for some violations. Mandatory and on-the-spot.
 

layoutshooter

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I would institute very harsh criminal penalties for any elected or appointed official who violates it, up to and including capital punishment for some violations. Mandatory and on-the-spot.

There sure would be a LOT of vacancies in government right now!
 

tbubster

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I would add one that says no member of government at any level is allowed to start campaigning untill 6 months befor the election.Also terms limits to all members of congress to two terms.
 

layoutshooter

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I would add one that says no member of government at any level is allowed to start campaigning untill 6 months befor the election.Also terms limits to all members of congress to two terms.

What would Obama do then? :confused: All he has done is campaign since he was elected.
 

greg334

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Define the commerce clause to what it was meant to be - regulations of tariffs between the states.

repeal the 17th and the 26th amendments.

These things will solve most of the problems we have today.
 

layoutshooter

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Put in an amendment making Standard American English our "official" language for all business involving government at all levels. To include, drivers tests, ALL ballots, citizenship tests etc. You can speak ANYTHING YOU LIKE on your own time.
 

layoutshooter

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Define the commerce clause to what it was meant to be - regulations of tariffs between the states.

repeal the 17th and the 26th amendments.

These things will solve most of the problems we have today.

Replace the 14th as well.
 

Tennesseahawk

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Since it's a "what if", I'll play.

- Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments. Make the Senate electable by the state legislatures ONLY. Institute a fair tax.

- Put us back on the gold standard, constitutionally. Take away the Federal Reserve's power over the government.

- Make debt allowed up to a certain percentage of government income. Anything over that will negatively reflect in Congress' salary.

- Representatives and Senators shall not be allowed to invest while they hold office.

- Companies are not human, so they have no rights - including the right to free speech by lobbying with money. If they want to hand out flyers, fine. But no donating to government officials.

- Any government official found to be breaking their oath shall be tried in a neighboring state of the one they represent, by a jury of their "civilian" peers. Conviction means automatic loss, forever, of a government position, among other penalties.

- Set up a section of the FBI that is untouchable by elected officials, which investigates wrongdoings by members of Congress, and the president.

- Clarify all parts of the Constitution that are vague, including the 9th and 14th Amendments, as well as the Interstate Commerce Clause.

- Make it easier for the states to start a constitutional convention.

- Make it illegal for the federal government to give money to individual states; thus nullifying any blackmail by the federal government, to get states to do its bidding.

- Long enough yet? ;)
 

layoutshooter

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"- Companies are not human, so they have no rights - including the right to free speech by lobbying with money. If they want to hand out flyers, fine. But no donating to government officials."

Same goes for "big labor" money.

How about an amendment to outlaw unions in the public sector?
 

Tennesseahawk

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"- Companies are not human, so they have no rights - including the right to free speech by lobbying with money. If they want to hand out flyers, fine. But no donating to government officials."

Same goes for "big labor" money.

How about an amendment to outlaw unions in the public sector?

Big labor is a company. And yes, government workers work at the pleasure of the people. No unions there.
 

greg334

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Replace the 14th as well.

Nope, all you need is to first define the commerce clause, it has been used for everything except what it was intended to be used for - maybe adding to it for us, forcing states not to screw with out of state trucks like California telling us not to drive there.

The repeal of the 17th amendment is done so state have a say through the senate.

and the repeal of the 26th is to raise the voting age back up to 21 with no exceptions.

These three have been the underlying problem for us for a long time and gives the fed a lot of power. Defining the commerce clause means that we are limiting a lot of their power based on the past SC rulings, which has allowed them to have the FBI, the health care regulations and prohibition type laws. It limits them to regulate between the states not regulate the states.

The need for the states to have a say in congress is very important and there is a need for the states to decide who they send. The added part to the repeal is to have the people to have uninhibited recall of representatives and allow senators to be recalled by the state.

The 26th amendment was an appeasement amendment and it is something that is used in campaigning, the youth vote. They are the least informed but the second group who is the largest voting block. The intent of the founders was simple - they are in capable of making a decision and looking at the results, I would say they are right.

That's all we need to get things rolling. We can improve our lives by doing all three and regain the control of the feds.
 

greg334

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The 14th needs work. We cannot allow the problem of "anchor" babies to continue.

But you know what, you may not get this part - if you want to change something, make it a change that puts us back into control of the feds, not just defines a part of it to solve one small issue.

The feds have a constitutional obligation to protect our borders and the states have the right to protect theirs. The feds tell the state "nope our job ... if we get around to it" and we sit here with our fingers up our ***** while the border stays open because we are powerless without the proper represnetation and way to recall those who we send to congress.

Get those three changes made that I talk about and that forces a lot of changes to the feds where they can't sit there and say "we'll get it done when we feel like it" Problem solved for most of the issues then we can work on the invader issue.
 

layoutshooter

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But you know what, you may not get this part - if you want to change something, make it a change that puts us back into control of the feds, not just defines a part of it to solve one small issue.

The feds have a constitutional obligation to protect our borders and the states have the right to protect theirs. The feds tell the state "nope our job ... if we get around to it" and we sit here with our fingers up our ***** while the border stays open because we are powerless without the proper represnetation and way to recall those who we send to congress.

Get those three changes made that I talk about and that forces a lot of changes to the feds where they can't sit there and say "we'll get it done when we feel like it" Problem solved for most of the issues then we can work on the invader issue.


We are no longer in control of the Feds because we ALLOWED it to happen. We have LEGAL control over our government. We CHOOSE, as a People, not to exercise that control.

Yes, it is the Feds responsibility to control our borders, which they are NOT doing. Control of the borders is related too, but separate from, the anchor baby problem. Eliminating that problem would, however, cut back drastically on the incentive to invade our country.
 

greg334

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Yes it would but closing the borders would too, it would eliminate a lot of issues, not just one.
 

layoutshooter

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Yes it would but closing the borders would too, it would eliminate a lot of issues, not just one.

I have NO problems defending the borders, it needs down and should be down. That would, however, not entirely eliminate the anchor baby problem. It would drastically cut it back to be sure, but not eliminate it. How one is determined to be a citizen or how one obtains citizen ship need to be better defined.
 

greg334

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But as we speak of citizenship, I wonder Layout, how do think being a citizen would be under the constitution?

I mean that should we look at a citizen with strings attached to it and limit their rights when there is an issue like say being born by parents who are foreign nationals while not being part of the diplomatic group?
 

layoutshooter

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Maybe like when my son was born in England. We had to register his birth with the US embassy. England also recognized it. He carried duel citizenship until he was 18. At 18 he had the option to choose one over the other. If a choice was not indicated it defaulted to the nationality of the birth parents.

Since he did not choose he carries only US citizenship. I wonder, did he also giver up the right to play cricket for Yorkshire? :confused:
 
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