If Cash For Clunkers Is Successful, Freight Should Increase

letzrockexpress

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As you probably know, one billion dollars has nearly been depleted for the Cash For Clunkers program. Congress is getting ready to approve 2 billion more. The sudden purchase of automobiles will, in all likelyhood, increase production at auto plants, creating opportunities to haul J.I.T.freight. My question is for all you folks out there who are dead set against this government sponsored program. Are you going to stand on principal and not haul automotive freight or are you going to opt to for the income that hauling said freight will generate for yourselves and family?
 

layoutshooter

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That has already been discussed, come up with a NEW one. :p Cash for Clunkers, would that be paying off Congressmen, Senators and the President to leave office? NOW THAT would be a REAL "Cash for Clunkers" program that would WORK!! :D
 

OntarioVanMan

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As you probably know, one billion dollars has nearly been depleted for the Cash For Clunkers program. Congress is getting ready to approve 2 billion more. The sudden purchase of automobiles will, in all likelyhood, increase production at auto plants, creating opportunities to haul J.I.T.freight. My question is for all you folks out there who are dead set against this government sponsored program. Are you going to stand on principal and not haul automotive freight or are you going to opt to for the income that hauling said freight will generate for yourselves and family?

I asked this a week ago and got a resounding YES they will haul it...even Government Motors freight ...
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Now we will go into the so-called hypocrasy or the practicality or whatever. Old news. We battled that one out weeks ago. What is all boils down to is that we are ALL somewhat "freightwhores" and will haul almost ANYTHING for the right price. One sub-set of those of us here will NOT haul freight that is known to be illegal or against our moral values but other than that we will haul it. Next subject!! LOL!!
 

letzrockexpress

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Now we will go into the so-called hypocrasy or the practicality or whatever. Old news. We battled that one out weeks ago. What is all boils down to is that we are ALL somewhat "freightwhores" and will haul almost ANYTHING for the right price. One sub-set of those of us here will NOT haul freight that is known to be illegal or against our moral values but other than that we will haul it. Next subject!! LOL!!

At least you admit it....
 

muttly

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That has already been discussed, come up with a NEW one. :p Cash for Clunkers, would that be paying off Congressmen, Senators and the President to leave office? NOW THAT would be a REAL "Cash for Clunkers" program that would WORK!! :D

Yes I would support that gov. program. But just like the car clunkers that are turned in and not driven again. The politicians that leave office should not be able to ever return to politics.:D
 

layoutshooter

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When have I ever said different? This is business. I will operate it as long as I can or am allowed. I DO however, belong to that sub-set that will NOT haul known illegal freight or freight that I am morally opposed to. Other than that, load it up!! Besides the better I do the more the Libs hate it!! :D Libs HATE self-reliance!! :p
 

chefdennis

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You bet ill haul it as long as it last, because they are just stealing sales from down the road, and there will be a drop in sales..thats how rebate programs work....but yeap ill haul it, at least i can get the peoples tax dollars back in my pocket....i can't say my tax dollars, because i do everything i can to not pay anymore then i really have to....

and yeap it was such a success the dealers are worried about just want i said....but they are also looking at no inventory until the 2010 model rollouts, and wondering what they will do till then....you see this rebate is only for 'in stock inventory", no one can use it for a car/truck that is ordered and to be delivered months from now.....

As 'cash for clunkers' ramps up, new cars sell out

August 9, 2009
FROM ASSOCIATED PRESS
As 'cash for clunkers' ramps up, new cars sell out :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Business

NEW YORK -- The nation's car dealers have a new worry: they're running out of vehicles.

As the "cash-for-clunkers" program reaches its next chapter, and consumers pour into showrooms, some dealers say their stock of new cars -- especially for fuel-efficient smaller models -- is waning.

At Larry Miller Honda in Boise, Idaho, about two-thirds of the car lot is empty. The dealership is nearly out of 2009 models -- something that usually doesn't happen until the late fall.

And the situation is so dire at a Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep dealership in Beaver Springs, Pa., that the owner, Michael Andretta, is essentially shutting down this weekend to repave his car lot.

"I'm out of cars," Andretta said. "I do not have a single car in my dealership that qualifies for anything."

Such a scenario amounts to a complete shift from earlier in the year, when hard-hit dealers saw cars pile up as consumers largely shunned big-ticket purchases.

It also reflects the rampant popularity of the incentive program, which gives car owners vouchers of up to $4,500 to trade in older, gas-guzzling vehicles for new, cleaner varieties.

On Friday, President Barack Obama approved another $2 billion to extend the program until Labor Day, putting consumers back in the car-buying mood. The program's first $1 billion ran out in about a week.

However, industry officials say shoppers now searching for deals may need to be more flexible, given the dwindling number of cars on many lots. Customers hoping for a blue vehicle, for instance, may need to settle for a white one instead, said John McEleney, the chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association.

"People are having to maybe make a second or third choice," he said.

The association's chief economist, Paul Taylor, said in a statement Friday that "the overall inventory of passenger cars and light trucks can support another month of robust new vehicle sales" as automakers ramp up production.

Still, even as car lots thin, some wonder whether the new infusion of government cash into the clunkers program is actually weakening consumers' resolve to go out and make a deal.

During the first phase of the program, which began last month, consumers flocked into dealerships, worried that they'd miss out otherwise as the money ran out. Now, shoppers may not feel as pressured.

At Crown Ford in Lynbrook, N.Y., sales manager Anthony Ciuffo said Saturday that walk-in traffic had slowed down at his dealership, although phone calls remained steady.

"It seemed that there was more sense of urgency prior to passing the bill," he said. "People feel that they have a longer window of opportunity."

Ciuffo said sales had been brisk earlier in the week, and that his dealership had sold out of the Focus sedan and mid-size Escape SUV -- two of Ford's most popular cash-for-clunkers vehicles. Like many dealers interviewed, Ciuffo said additional cars should arrive in about a week to 10 days.

But John Rogin, who owns a Buick dealership in Livonia, Mich., said he wasn't expecting the same frenzied pace that he witnessed earlier, since many of those who could afford a new car already jumped at the chance to do so when the program debuted.

"This is really going to slow up," he said. "It's not going to accelerate from here."

What's more, he said he's beginning to notice a changing consumer sentiment. The early excitement that came with the program is slowly morphing into bitterness among consumers discovering that their vehicles don't qualify for vouchers, he said.

To be eligible, vehicles must have a combined city/highway mileage of 18 miles per gallon or less when they were new.

"Right now, it's, 'Oh well, I don't qualify,' " he said.

But, he said, those ineligible are now wondering: "What about me?"

To be sure, dealers say they are happy with the program and thrilled with the increase in business.

Paul R. Smith, general manager of a Chevy dealership in East Hartford, Conn., said the number of prospective buyers has doubled -- to between 20 and 25 per day from 10 -- in his showroom where car roofs sport signs that read, "If your car qualifies, this car qualifies."

The Chevy dealership, on a strip occupied by several others, has sold 25 cars in the cash-for-clunkers program so far. Still, Smith worries about how many cars he'll have left until 2010 models arrive in November.

"We're running out of inventory," he said. "I'm very concerned."
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muttly

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On second thought auto freight is some cheap arse freight. I might just say no.:p
 

muttly

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Yes . Chef is right. This program is only stealing or moving up sales that there would have been down the road.
 
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