How many are Pro-War?

Turtle

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Yeah, sorry. I tend to lump Cambodians, Laotians and Vietnamese into the same group of people, since they are all, mostly, of the same Khmer ethnic group. But I do know the difference. :)

How can we expect the Iraqis to defend themselves? I'm not sure that I expect that of them, actually. You're right about them not having the will to fight. They've been repeatedly conquered throughout history, from Cyrus the Great to Alexander the Great to the Ottoman Turks. The British were handed Iraq by the League of Nations after WWI and it didn't take much from the British army to put down what little rebellion there was. Now there's us. I think we should do the same thing that everyone before us has done - keep it until we're bored with it.

We won't keep it, per se, but we'll be there a while.
 

ratwell71

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Dave,

Dave said: "It can be a simple yes or no if one chooses to answer that way. Unless there are rules here I don't know about, we are all free to answer questions as we see fit."
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That is what "it" means. It CAN be answered with a yes or no if you like not that it has to be. Read this again.

I think you read my message out of context. Noone is forcing a "yes"or "no" answer.

Please feel free to answer the way you like.
 

ratwell71

Veteran Expediter
Turtle,

Why do you keep feeling the need to criticize someone's stance on WAR? Any WAR not just IRAQ. If you read my post you will see that I talk about Vietnam as well. I will not justify myself to you on why I put this post out here nor should anyone else.

This is a learning experience and that means you must be able to write something intelligent without being belligerant. Please be consistent on who you are calling a FOOL. I appreciate all the comments but the name calling is sooooo childish and when you start this you stop teaching. Noone will listen when you choose this route.

Thanks for calling all of us that are anti-war and those that are for it fools. Don't flip flop just so you can insult.
 

ratwell71

Veteran Expediter
Turtle,

Another thing do not guess at my intentions here you have no clue on who I am, o.k. Just like I do not know you. I am not here to make enemies nor friends. There is an intention spelled out for you, o.k. Unless of course you have the power of learning things through OSMOSIS. Then you may know a little bit about me. LOL


The intention of this post for those wanting to comment without being attacked is a LEARNING experience. Noone is the same so we all have a difference of opinions. Please refrain from name calling.

Please respect the right of others to communicate these differences in a civil way. This is not war. It is a simple posted question.
 
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Turtle

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I didn't call anyone any names, and if I ever choose to, it will not be in the third party, it will be quite direct. I simply stated that a fool is pro-war, and likewise, a fool is anti-war even when war in unavoidable and necessary. If the shoe fits, so be it, but that statement is in no way directed towards anyone in particular. My statement simply means that it is a fool who wants nothing more than to go to war, that war is their first and preferred option. Likewise, it is a fool that would prefer placating an enemy, or straight up surrender, when fighting war is necessary.

"Why do you keep feeling the need to criticize someone's stance on WAR? Any WAR not just IRAQ."

I wasn't aware that I criticized anyone's stance on the war. I may disagree with someone, but it's just that, a disagreement. In any case, is criticism not allowed?

"If you read my post you will see that I talk about Vietnam as well. I will not justify myself to you on why I put this post out here nor should anyone else."

I never asked.

"This is a learning experience and that means you must be able to write something intelligent without being belligerant."

No it doesn't.

"Please be consistent on who you are calling a FOOL."

Soon as I call someone a fool, I'll certainly try my best to be consistent with it.

"I appreciate all the comments but the name calling is sooooo childish and when you start this you stop teaching. Noone will listen when you choose this route."

Like I said, I didn't call anyone a fool. If you see name calling here, that's your prerogative, but make no mistake, when I call someone a name, there will be no ambiguity about it. It will read something alone the lines of "You are a <insert name du jour>."

"Thanks for calling all of us that are anti-war and those that are for it fools. Don't flip flop just so you can insult."

If you are anti-war under any and all circumstances, no matter what the consequences, then yes, you are a fool. Likewise, if you are so pro-war that you prefer it to any and all other options, no matter what the consequences, then yes, you are a fool. There's no flip flopping, and there's no insulting. By definition, a fool cannot be insulted.

"Another thing do not guess at my intentions here you have no clue on who I am, o.k."

Well, to be blunt, I don't care who you are. I tend to reply to what is posted, rather than to who posted it. I do take it somewhat as an insult that you would actually have the gall to tell me what I can and cannot guess at, however. I feel confident in stating that you do not know me well enough to tell me what and how to think. :)

"Just like I do not know you."

Yet you have no problem talking to me like you do. Interesting.

"I am not here to make enemies nor friends. There is an intention spelled out for you, o.k. Unless of course you have the power of learning things through OSMOSIS. Then you may know a little bit about me. LOL"

I learn many things by osmosis.

"The intention of this post for those wanting to comment without being attacked is a LEARNING experience. Noone is the same so we all have a difference of opinions."

Including me.

"Please refrain from name calling."

Would it make you feel better if I called you a name?

"Please respect the right of others to communicate these differences in a civil way."

I respect the rights of others to communicated any differences they have in any way they see fit.

"This is war. It is a simple posted question."

Huh? This is war? What is? This thread? Huh? What?
 
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ratwell71

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Turtle,

I stand corrected. I apologize especially after you went through all that effort to pick apart the post.

Thanks for correcting me...
 

ratwell71

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This is war. It is a simple posted question."

Huh? This is war? What is? This thread? Huh? What?

Oops, I meant this is not war. LOL
 

ratwell71

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Turtle,

I just got a good laugh at this. I read it and laughed my butt off. You are comical. Thanks for setting the record straight.
 

ratwell71

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Dave,

That is not a permission. You read what I said out of context and I was clarifying it. Do you want my permission? You have it. LOL
 

ratwell71

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Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality.
Jules de Gaultier

A diplomat... is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you actually look forward to the trip.
Caskie Stinnett, Out of the Red (1960)
 

ratwell71

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I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
 

ratwell71

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I will continue to state what I like as well Dave. I will remain civil and refrain from commenting any further because it is evident you have a problem; however, feel free to keep talking to me. You have my permission.
 

ratwell71

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No, actually I had no problem with the context. As far as wanting your permission, I have done well without if for 58 years, and have no need of it now either.

"Noone is giving you permission but if you want it you got it."

You ask me in another post if I feel better now. :D

I felt pretty good before I ever heard of you, and now that I have I still do. You really can't affect how I feel one way or the other.

"Easy fix, move onto the next best thing."

I think we may just have differing opinions about some things, and I have no problem with that.

"Sure you do."

Some things I have believed only to change my mind on them later.

That is the great thing about freedom to me. Having the ability to express ourselves in whatever way we see fit. Not that courtesy and tact don't have their place.

"Seems you are the only one that has this courtesy." Glad you see it my way.

I am Dave, and I approve of this message. :cool:

"I approve too."

Peace, Love, and all that...
 
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