How are teams dividing the hours?

[ftp000]

We've been out of the expediting business for a few years, the the last 2 years the we did do expediting was in a Sprinter. When we first started we were in a straight truck and we ussually would go 6/4 splits, as in I drive 6 she drives 6 then I drive 4..... But after a DOT HOS change we were forced to go 11 straight because once you started the 14 clock you could no longer stop it. Has anything changed? Is there a way around the 11 straight?

 

[ConfusedMuse]

we do 10 on, 10 off forever,and ever, and ever..................

 

[Angil82]

That is how we do it as well, 10 on 10 off, makes it easier for both of us, and its not as tiring.

 

[Crazynuff]

We've been out of the expediting business for a few years, the the last 2 years the we did do expediting was in a Sprinter. When we first started we were in a straight truck and we ussually would go 6/4 splits, as in I drive 6 she drives 6 then I drive 4..... But after a DOT HOS change we were forced to go 11 straight because once you started the 14 clock you could no longer stop it. Has anything changed? Is there a way around the 11 straight?

Nobody is "forced " to do anything . How many expedite team runs are 22 hours or more ? How many runs are scheduled so you can't take an hour or two break even if it's on the clock ? The 10 hours off duty can be split 8 in the sleeper , 2 off duty .

 

[layoutshooter]

Nobody is "forced " to do anything . How many expedite team runs are 22 hours or more ? How many runs are scheduled so you can't take an hour or two break even if it's on the clock ? The 10 hours off duty can be split 8 in the sleeper , 2 off duty .

We do 10 on and 10 off. We often have to run more than 22 hours. Those hours can either be driving or guarding the load. MANY of our loads are scheduled without the benefit of time for breaks.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Ok Joe..I've wondered this for a long time.....

you are on a security load....the mrs is in the bunk....you have to go for a whiz or something..to leave the truck...now you have to wake the Mrs as per rules but she is not eligible to even be on duty yet.....how do you fudge the books?

 

[layoutshooter]

Ok Joe..I've wondered this for a long time.....

you are on a security load....the mrs is in the bunk....you have to go for a whiz or something..to leave the truck...now you have to wake the Mrs as per rules but she is not eligible to even be on duty yet.....how do you fudge the books?

It can be difficult sometimes. I won't go into the gory details but taking the wizz part has been solved. Many truck stops have the fuel receipts available at the pumps now. That has really made life easier. Besides, anyone is allowed to run into a truck stop to go to the bathroom if on sleeper time.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

It can be difficult sometimes. I won't go into the gory details but taking the wizz part has been solved. Many truck stops have the fuel receipts available at the pumps now. That has really made life easier. Besides, anyone is allowed to run into a truck stop to go to the bathroom if on sleeper time.

But when you or the Mrs's runs in...don't you have to wake the other by rules?? and that would put them "on duty"

 

[layoutshooter]

But when you or the Mrs's runs in...don't you have to wake the other by rules?? and that would put them "on duty"

We try to plan our fuel stops for the same time we are changing drivers. It is not hard to do and we have had a lot of practice at it. It is VERY rare these days that we have to wake up the other driver on these loads. You can go to the "off duty" line during your 10 hours. We have it down now that we ONLY wake the other person up if we are sitting for many hours on a load like that. There is just no reason most of the time to wake the other up while rolling.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

We try to plan our fuel stops for the same time we are changing drivers. It is not hard to do and we have had a lot of practice at it. It is VERY rare these days that we have to wake up the other driver on these loads. You can go to the "off duty" line during your 10 hours. We have it down now that we ONLY wake the other person up if we are sitting for many hours on a load like that. There is just no reason most of the time to wake the other up while rolling.

Ok...I always curious about that...don't know why, just stuck in my brain...*lol* very little usually does stick...

 

[layoutshooter]

Ok...I always curious about that...don't know why, just stuck in my brain...*lol* very little usually does stick...

No comment!! LOL!!!

 

[OntarioVanMan]

No comment!! LOL!!!

Thought i'd put that in there before some other smartazz did...it can be brutal in here at times...everyones a critic,,,*LOL*

 

[layoutshooter]

Thought i'd put that in there before some other smartazz did...it can be brutal in here at times...everyones a critic,,,*LOL*

Yes it can. The most difficult problem with those runs occurs when we have them back to back or they go on for several days. Sitting on a guarded load for a week eats up all of your 70 clock and fast. We have had to do a few 34 hour resets because of that. Once we had to do one while under load. They brought in another truck to guard ours for 34 hours. Those drivers had to sit up, awake in their truck, and just watch ours. We went to a motel.

 

[Crazynuff]

Besides, anyone is allowed to run into a truck stop to go to the bathroom if on sleeper time.

No they aren't . 8 hours consecutive in a sleeper means exactly that .
Part 395.8 (h) (1) Off-duty. Except for time spent resting in a sleeper berth, a continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time when the driver is not on duty, is not required to be in readiness to work, or is not under any responsibility for performing work.

(h) (2) Sleeper berth. A continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time off duty resting in a sleeper berth, as defined in §395.2. (If a non-sleeper berth operation, sleeper berth need not be shown on the grid.)

We know it's done often but it isn't "allowed"

 

[lugnut1]

When we run as a Team, we usually run an 8-3-3-8. 8hrs driving and/or on duty, then 3hrs in sleeper, then 3hrs driving and/or on duty, then 8hrs in sleeper. It’s the best fit to keep the wheels rolling and be legal.
8-3-3-8 over and over.

 

[greg334]

OK please explain this.

If you start at midnight driving stop at 8am to go into the sleeper, then do three in the sleeper which stops ate 11am, does the clock stop for your drive time?

 

[lugnut1]

OK please explain this.

If you start at midnight driving stop at 8am to go into the sleeper, then do three in the sleeper which stops ate 11am, does the clock stop for your drive time?

Greg, Are you asking me the above??
Ref 8-3-3-8

 

[greg334]

Crap I thought I hit the quote button ... yes 8-3-3-8

 

[lugnut1]

Crap I thought I hit the quote button ... yes 8-3-3-8

“does the clock stop for your drive time?”
No it does not stop. 8hrs driving and/or on duty, then 3hrs in sleeper, then 3hrs driving and/or on duty, then 8hrs in sleeper. Co driver mirrors the above 8-3-3-8

 

[Crazynuff]

“does the clock stop for your drive time?”
No it does not stop. 8hrs driving and/or on duty, then 3hrs in sleeper, then 3hrs driving and/or on duty, then 8hrs in sleeper. Co driver mirrors the above 8-3-3-8

I bet that system has them scratching their heads at the scalehouse .