zorry
Veteran Expediter
Without going into detail,it is.
HOS Changes Effective February 27, 2013
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Without going into detail,it is.
I would much rather drive my 70 hours away, far less tiring than babysitting.
Dam straight. Becasue if the Admiral cant control you then he sure as hell best support you.
It ought to be fire fight then maybe just maybe we would get some support out here.
We all know what they want That Da Burn Pilot Program to be brought back on line.
If you think about it with the Re set and the other rules they are putting into effect it will mean on an average one ta Two less runs a week for a Truck depending on wether its running Team or Single. So they want to dabble in our lively hoods I hope they got deep pockets as freight Im afarid will be on the rise just as corn was once 2 dollars a bushel now its 7 dollars a bushel let the Price of freight rise as well. Let the political cronies dig deep into their pockets or change it back to like it was.
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CharlesD
Expert Expediter
Carren and I ran team in a straight for a summer and never did a restart. We ran in areas that nobody else wanted to and made a huge rate per mile. One day we only did about 50 miles and grossed $1100.
CharlesD
Expert Expediter
Ok, I'm reading this whole thing trying to get a handle on the kind of runs we'll be able to book our solo trucks on once this goes into effect. Before you had 11 hours to deal with and now you have 10. So for a load that has to run straight through, that's pretty easy to figure out; you lose about 60 miles or so on the loads you can book. But where it gets tricky is for loads that might have about 24 hours to complete or for longer loads that would run over multiple shifts when you have to figure out the transit time.
Before I would figure out 11 hours on and 10 off, or basically 21 hours for each chunk of miles the truck could do in 11. Now you have the guy only able to driver for 10, but he's able to get back at it 2 hours faster, so you could in effect be gaining an hour per 21 hour period on the longer loads, which could mean a solo can do a longer load faster than before. So now a solo has a slightly better chance of being able to get a 1000 mile load or longer, but those 700 milers out out of the question now.
Before I would figure out 11 hours on and 10 off, or basically 21 hours for each chunk of miles the truck could do in 11. Now you have the guy only able to driver for 10, but he's able to get back at it 2 hours faster, so you could in effect be gaining an hour per 21 hour period on the longer loads, which could mean a solo can do a longer load faster than before. So now a solo has a slightly better chance of being able to get a 1000 mile load or longer, but those 700 milers out out of the question now.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
You're forgetting it was that progressive, GW Bush, who implimented the majority of what we hate now... no split sleeper, and the 14 hour clock. With conservatives like that, who needs libtards?
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Zug Island?
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Umm... lawyers are dictating medicine. Nuff said.
watrucker
Active Expediter
People can't understand why I have zero desire to drive OTR in a Commercial Capacity, I barely started my career as a CDL driver and I am already tired of this stuff. I was tired of logbooks my first day in truck school. The HOS are ridiculous, I mean how the heck are we supposed to make money out here?
Well, most people seem to be pretty happy working an 8 hour day/ 40 hour week. I've never understood why we're not trying to get rates that would allow us to make at least the same money that everyone else makes for an 8 hr day/ 40 hr week. You'll have to look pretty hard outside of trucking to find people demanding more work for the same or less pay.
I was going to say....isn't the goal to work less for more pay?.....
Rates are rumored to be going up and less hours mandated to drive seems a good thing....
and here some are arguing for the lower rates and work more.....well duh....
Yep, I hear that a lot. Man I gotta get a load, I need some miles. I only got 1200 miles this week. When it should be, I need another good paying load this week to make my budget.
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Thing is IF you read the big OTR sites there IS a driver shortage...ONLY not so bad because of the economy....Many a truck is sitting idle in the yards because no driver to cover the lane...
I can understand the logic of not wanting the government to be acting as a sort of a union, telling one when and how much to drive...but this has been a long time issue back over many generations of drivers...
I can understand the logic of not wanting the government to be acting as a sort of a union, telling one when and how much to drive...but this has been a long time issue back over many generations of drivers...
Where are you getting 10, because we still have the 11/14 rule just you have to make sure you log a 1/2 hour lunch (off duty)
Only in a war zone fighting, but you follow orders and have rules to live by all the time your in the military. If you don't follow orders then you are either fined and demoted or the throw you in the stockage.
The only way that can be called a driver shortage is if that load doesn't get covered in some other way. I would guess that those empty trucks have more to do with decreased demand than driver shortage.
The deal with people talking about empty trucks at a terminal gets blown waaaay out of proportion. Most people outside of the operations department of that particular trucking company don't have the first clue as to why those trucks are actually sitting there. They are guessing.
I drove for Maverick in NLR when I started out. Just about anytime you drive by, if you have your cb on, you'll hear drivers talking about all those empty trucks on the lot. They are idiots. A good number of those trucks are new. They are there waiting for a driver to come in and trade in his truck for a new one. Some of those trucks are the older trucks that the driver has turned in to get his new truck. Some of those trucks are waiting for drivers coming out of orientation. Some of them are very simply drivers that happened to stop at the yard for their 10 hr break, or to get a service on the truck, or to talk to somebody in the office. BUT, Joe Blow knowitall drives by and sees 75 trucks parked out in their yard and starts jabbering stupidity on the radio and more than likely the internet.
When you see freight sitting on the docks because they can't find drivers to drive the trucks.... then it's a driver shortage. That would be a BOON for the expedite industry. How busy are we?
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CharlesD
Expert Expediter
I mis read the whole thing. There was something in there about HOS for CMV carrying passengers. They went to 10 hours on with 8 off. I didn't notice the part about passengers.
You misspelled "thing". The correct spelling is "thang"! At least that's what they teach us in AR.
