Ya hit the nail on the head. Maybe thats what they want.
Hey, VP debates tonite
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Ya hit the nail on the head. Maybe thats what they want.
Practical solutions:
STOP paying for other kids.
KEEP it in your PANTS, worked for me. ALWAYS works, the ONLY 100% effective method.
Start teaching PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY again.
Get rid of MOST work free welfare
NO free rides for healthy people who are able to work.
The idea that it is NOT possible to prevent unwanted kids is stupid. It would be a REALLY good idea to bring back SHAME.
Its not bs. I was born to a responsible parents ..but if i was to be born unwanted.. neglected thrown into foster care or an orphanage i would rather not be born personally..
Remember.. scumbags breed more scumbags so if they want to abort a future scumbag...THANK THEM not ridicule them..
..How many are you going to adopt/foster....haven't answered that....
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I agree 800% I do..... but the SAD part is it wont happen..
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I agree 800% I do..... but the SAD part is it wont happen..
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Sure it can. The ONLY reason it won't is, at least for now, it is not good politics. The problem we have is a 100% POLITICAL problem. Same with abortion. It is pushed SO hard, not to benefit mankind, not to 'protect' unwanted kids from a life of hell, NOT to insure the world does not over populate. It is pushed because it is BIG business, making BIG bucks and those who make those BIG BUCKS contribute to candidates. PERIOD.
bobwg
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your full of bs easy for you to say that you would rather have been killed instead of being born into foster care. Funny you offer no response to my previous posts about parents going overseas to adopt instead of adopting here in the US Cost, regulation, why??? and your so concerned about others adopting why dont you adopt???
I dont see where the "big money" would be ..but okay..
. but until then how many can we put you down for to adopt/foster..how big is your house??..those kids are gonna keep coming... they need to eat and stay dry..and for someone to love them most importantly!!..
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NO, I did MY part. Now it is my responsibility to spoil my granddaughter, nieces and nephew (when he gets back from Germany) THAT is the circle of life. (most are now grand nieces and nephews. I am at the age where I TEACH them based on my life experience and wisdom. I have neither the energy, or the will to take on the role of parent. Been there, did that, did it right. I expect EVERYONE else to do the same.
I WILL, if needed, raise my granddaughter or nieces and nephews, NO others. They are the responsibility of those to made them. Would not pay for them either if I were not FORCED too do so. By government and those who support those programs, INCLUDING FORCING me to pay for abortions, when it comes to that. Making ME cover OTHERS responsibility can ONLY be done by FORCE!
Not big money? BILLIONS are spent on it. Sounds like big money to me!
I WILL, if needed, raise my granddaughter or nieces and nephews, NO others. They are the responsibility of those to made them. Would not pay for them either if I were not FORCED too do so. By government and those who support those programs, INCLUDING FORCING me to pay for abortions, when it comes to that. Making ME cover OTHERS responsibility can ONLY be done by FORCE!
Not big money? BILLIONS are spent on it. Sounds like big money to me!
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Well i would adopt/foster a child but..
A. I live in a cargo van 250+ days a year..
B. Im a single male they usually don't approve single men for adoption/ fostering
I have 3 cousins and a niece that foster though...that is a labor of love..people who foster others unwanted children are unsung heroes...
If i could i would...i do adopt my pets though..
And YES to go thru childhood UNLOVED UNWANTED.. i would rather not be born..i feel alot would agree with that...not a way to live...i don't wish that on a dog let alone a human..
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AMonger
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But you have it backwards. It's not "take care of what you breed;" it's "only breed what you can feed." So if you're capable of raising only 1, then 1 is where you stop. Or none. Right now, we make it easy to over-breed by subsidizing children. If that stopped, if over-breeding meant that the father had to work 3 jobs for until his children were legal adults, the over-breeding would come to a screeching halt. We're contributing to the problem by allowing sperm donors & rent-a-uteruses to continue and pass society the bill. It's painless for them. In fact, the more they have, the more money they get, and they know it. So not only do we do that, we murder a lot of the babies, too. The blood of tens of millions of babies is on our hands.
But you are against abortions...these extra kids WILL BE BORN...they would like to have a life like you explained.. an uncle who spoils them...a grandpa to hug them...a mom to love... a stable house...but what they get..(because of shizhead dna donations ) is no uncle like you.. no grandpa..no biological family that cares..if there lucky they get a good foster home..send YOUR grandkids to a foster home/orphanage ...you would say hell no...but you will gladly send/sentence others to a life of that...
You did your part as i did with my son...but there are ALOT of kids who do not get anything close to that..sad
Forcing you to pay for abortions?? I look at is preventative maintenance.. little now...or you get A WHOLE lot more later ..with there hands out as you were complaining about..gees think about it..all those children that will be born when YOU OUTLAW abortions will need food..lodging..HELLO they have no parents..us the taxpayers become mommy and daddy..there's alot of $$ your speaking of...and statically they will become criminals so there 100% life is YOUR dime.... diapers to death..on YOU..
Uncle layoutshooter to millions of kids...that is what you will get...better get a bigger house..
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AMonger
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The same is true for slavery, chattel and otherwise. But you wouldn't defend that, would you?
We humans can't make something morally right or wrong; we can only discover it and conform. That abortion is wrong was always true, just as fire, electricity, and the principle of the wheel always existed before we grasped them.
Murder was wrong when Cain did it, not only after a law was passed.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
...and because it allows people to dodge responsibility for their actions. The vast majority of prenatal infantacides are done for convenience, so the parents can continue their lifestyle. You know, lots of parents of toddlers discover they don't like the lifestyle change they've experienced and would like to return to their carefree days. If you're going to allow prenatal infantacide, you may as well allow this infantacide, too. After all, nobody remembers being two years old. Right, asj?
The ONLY reason I am paying for OTHER'S kids, OTHER'S day care, and soon, OTHER'S abortions, is because the government holds a gun to my head to FORCE me to do so.
OTHERS are NOT my responsibility. I fulfilled MY responsibility. It is time to insure that the OTHERS do the same. The more you do for (too them) the more force will be used to insure their 'freebies'. More 'freebies' will NOT slow the problem, they will GROW the problem. Always have, always will. This problem was caused by flawed government and will ONLY be solved by getting government OUT of it.
So let them all be born...who cares if there loved...fed.. housed...just institutionalize them to me that's way more cruel then stopping it before we get there...
All those unloved unfed ..no family kids are on your hands then..
We look at it totally different..
We will have to agree to disagree
....just let em keep coming..mark my word THEY WILL!!
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AMonger
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Then we compel their fathers to labor or go to prison. You created it, you feed it. Tote barges & lift bales, buddy. The over-procreation would come to a screeching halt once it was no longer easy or pleasurable.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
A fine choice for you to make for yourself, though you would change your mind real quick when the scalpel started to dismember you alive. And not a decision for someone else to make for you.