I had my oil changed at a truck stop and they did not torq. the plug in . Lost all my oil going down the road and motor blew. Has anyone had this happen ? Please respond if you know what ave. I should take with this. It has cost me alot of money and time. The truck stop was going to settle with me and then they changed there mind because they knew it would cost me alot to fight them. Bee:'(
Help truck stop caused my truck to blow up
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Doggie Daddy
Veteran Expediter
Just curious as to what type of vehicle you are talking about.Most if not all class 7 and class 8 trucks have an engine protection system that will shut the motor down in the event of loss of oil pressure.DD.
silverdollar
Expert Expediter
I have never seen a truck without gauges to let you know it was over heating, I probably could have smelled it.
There are many signs something is going wrong before it "blows up". If it got that far the first problem is the driver. Sorry to say there is no excuse for you not to notice something is going on. I have seen engines run without oil and there are lots of bad signs before the end. The only time I've seen it get to full failure mode (by accident) was on start up after an oil change and the engine had no oil in it. The mechanic started the truck and rev'd the snot out of it (thinking the filters needed to be filled) and it took more than 5 minutes. Thats with no oil. A plug falling oil would take at least a full minute for the oil to run out (smell as it hits hot parts, a very noticeable spray in your rearview mirrors) and then an erratic then zero oil pressure gauge, a buzzer (pays to leave it hooked up) and then a rapidly building loss of power as things begin to seize.
I've seen a lot of engines fail in competition and on purpose just for show (local truck show blows one up every year, sells tickets based on time to fail for charity) and there are ALWAYS signs something is not right before things go boom!
Sorry for the long post but it was always a pet peeve of mine when a driver told me "it just happened....no warning".
I've seen a lot of engines fail in competition and on purpose just for show (local truck show blows one up every year, sells tickets based on time to fail for charity) and there are ALWAYS signs something is not right before things go boom!
Sorry for the long post but it was always a pet peeve of mine when a driver told me "it just happened....no warning".
volvo 2000 the alarm system did not go off and when the truck was checked out they said everything was on and working right. I do not understand. The people who fixed the truck said this can happen going down the road. the oil plug comes out and with in a matter of minutes the oil goes out and blows the motor.
all I know is the alarms did not go off. they were going 65 down a highway and they heard a pop sound and got off the road as quick as they could. by then the motor was gone. the place that fixed it said all the alarm system was on and working . He did not know why it did not go off when the plug came out. It was also at night.
Bee, you asked if anyone knows of a lawyer - if you talk to one, you and your drivers need to be honest. I mention this because you said on Dec 27th that this is your first post, but you posted the exact same thing on Nov 27 (in the Tech Forum). And the story your drivers are telling just doesn't ring true, IMO.
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
How do you know the alarm didn't go off? Where you there? How do you know the drivers aren't just trying to cover their butts?
Here are other posts you made on subject which includes suggestions to you.
http://www.expeditersonline.com/dcforum/DCForumID16/2021.html
http://www.expeditersonline.com/dcforum/DCForumID28/138.html
http://www.expeditersonline.com/dcforum/DCForumID16/2021.html
http://www.expeditersonline.com/dcforum/DCForumID28/138.html
The reality is you or your hired drivers are simply steering wheel holders.
A alarm buzzer means absolutely nothing. Hate to be harsh, but maybe next time you or your drivers might pay attention to your heat and oil pressure gauges. They would have given you a warning sign long before any buzzer.
Hard lesson to learn. Your chances with a lawsuit are going to be weak because of driver failure. 50 percent recovery would be your best hope, if even that. The driver shares in the neglect as much as the shop. Because of that, it just depends on who can outspend who.
Davekc
owner
23 years
PantherII
EO moderator
A alarm buzzer means absolutely nothing. Hate to be harsh, but maybe next time you or your drivers might pay attention to your heat and oil pressure gauges. They would have given you a warning sign long before any buzzer.
Hard lesson to learn. Your chances with a lawsuit are going to be weak because of driver failure. 50 percent recovery would be your best hope, if even that. The driver shares in the neglect as much as the shop. Because of that, it just depends on who can outspend who.
Davekc
owner
23 years
PantherII
EO moderator
Bee:
It sure looks like you are in denial of the possibility that your drivers are either hard of hearing or a little bit careless with the truth. The facts you already know are that Your driver accepted the oil change job as completed by the T/S when he paid and drove off; the engine failed due to loss of oil after 3000 miles; the truck's alarms were not faulty.
You also seem to be making excuses for your drivers each time someone points a finger at them. You don't need a lawyer; you need new drivers.
It sure looks like you are in denial of the possibility that your drivers are either hard of hearing or a little bit careless with the truth. The facts you already know are that Your driver accepted the oil change job as completed by the T/S when he paid and drove off; the engine failed due to loss of oil after 3000 miles; the truck's alarms were not faulty.
You also seem to be making excuses for your drivers each time someone points a finger at them. You don't need a lawyer; you need new drivers.
You also seem to be making excuses for your drivers each time someone points a finger at them. You don't need a lawyer; you need new drivers.
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Terry is correct.....sometimes "people can't handle the truth"
I would ditch the steering wheel holders and start over with someone that can read gauges.
Again painful..........but now you have your answer.
I do stand corrected. If you drove 3000 miles and then the problem occurred, you now have no case.
Davekc
owner
23 years
PantherII
EO moderator
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Terry is correct.....sometimes "people can't handle the truth"
I would ditch the steering wheel holders and start over with someone that can read gauges.
Again painful..........but now you have your answer.
I do stand corrected. If you drove 3000 miles and then the problem occurred, you now have no case.
Davekc
owner
23 years
PantherII
EO moderator
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Funny you should mention leaks from the plug. My last oil change was about 8000 mi ago. I noticed a leak soon after, and it seemed to be coming from my plug. Plug is tight by hand. If Speedco cross-threaded it, then it will be shown as such when I take it back in another month. Funny tho... I'm not adding much more oil than normal.
-A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it. - Henry Ford
-A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it. - Henry Ford
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
If I thought my truck was leaking and not burning oil I'd put a peice of cardboard or something semi clean underneath when I parked for my 10 hour break then when I woke up if I saw any oil I'd know if I had a leak and how bad ir was. That's just one of many things that could have been done to diagonse the problem by the driver. Something a non steering wheel holder would do. They weren't running that hard. I mean 3k miles in 9 days is not hard running. Even if they had been running hard there is no excuse for not checking the oil and monitoring gauges. I guess you have a motor to rebuild. What will be next the tranny or another motor? Depends on what you do after this.
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
I'll tell you something that happened to me. I was driving for an owner and he told me to hire a co driver. I found a guy and the owner run a background check, and got him approved with the company then I hired him.
He had gone through truck driving school and drove for one of the big truckload companies as a student for about 2 weeks. Theh he went back to his old job. When he got on the truck with me he hadn't been on one in 5 years. He was bad about poping the clutch. I told him repeatedly he was gonna throw the drive shaft doing that. After about a month I got tired of repeating myself. I checked the drive shaft and the yokes were lose. So the drive shaft was just about ready to go. Luckily I got tightened back up.
I talked to the owner about it, and he said if he were me he would fire him. I thought about it, and called the truck driving school he had went to. They would let him go through a refresher course for free. I think it was like a week or 2 week deal. I told him he could go through the refresher course or he had a week to shape up or ship out. He said he quit. I called the owner and he told me to take him to my house so he could get his vehicle.
I hated to see him go, but the owner didn't want to replace a drive shaft and I didn't want the downtime. So we split ways. It's business. Sometimes business descisions like that have to be made. It's nothing personal, but you can't have someone working for you that is going to neglect and/or tear up equipment. In my eyes it's no more personal than telling a dispatcher you can't take a load that will cost you money instead of making you money. Sure they may get their feelings hurt, but they will get over it.
I had a guy let me go once for putting a whole in a metal building with an auger on an auger truck. It was accident, but I got fired. The whole time he was firing me he was complimenting my work ethic. 2 weeks later he called me back. I already had another job that paid better. he told me to put on any application that I got laid off. He's my uncle by marriage. I see him all the time, and I have no hard feelings towards him. He did what he had to do.
He had gone through truck driving school and drove for one of the big truckload companies as a student for about 2 weeks. Theh he went back to his old job. When he got on the truck with me he hadn't been on one in 5 years. He was bad about poping the clutch. I told him repeatedly he was gonna throw the drive shaft doing that. After about a month I got tired of repeating myself. I checked the drive shaft and the yokes were lose. So the drive shaft was just about ready to go. Luckily I got tightened back up.
I talked to the owner about it, and he said if he were me he would fire him. I thought about it, and called the truck driving school he had went to. They would let him go through a refresher course for free. I think it was like a week or 2 week deal. I told him he could go through the refresher course or he had a week to shape up or ship out. He said he quit. I called the owner and he told me to take him to my house so he could get his vehicle.
I hated to see him go, but the owner didn't want to replace a drive shaft and I didn't want the downtime. So we split ways. It's business. Sometimes business descisions like that have to be made. It's nothing personal, but you can't have someone working for you that is going to neglect and/or tear up equipment. In my eyes it's no more personal than telling a dispatcher you can't take a load that will cost you money instead of making you money. Sure they may get their feelings hurt, but they will get over it.
I had a guy let me go once for putting a whole in a metal building with an auger on an auger truck. It was accident, but I got fired. The whole time he was firing me he was complimenting my work ethic. 2 weeks later he called me back. I already had another job that paid better. he told me to put on any application that I got laid off. He's my uncle by marriage. I see him all the time, and I have no hard feelings towards him. He did what he had to do.
Hawk, check with a dealer to see if your plug has a gasket. The metal gasket will flatten over time and leak a very small amount.
I'm getting tired of Speedco always having an issue with finding the right tool to remove my drain plug. This last time he used one a bit too small and it got stuck in the plug. I need to get off my paunchy posterior and get that drain Turtle talked about.
I'm getting tired of Speedco always having an issue with finding the right tool to remove my drain plug. This last time he used one a bit too small and it got stuck in the plug. I need to get off my paunchy posterior and get that drain Turtle talked about.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
I'm starting to like the looks of Petro more and more. If we had a good FL dealer around Detroit, I'd be there. I'd rather a dealer do the deed.
-A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it. - Henry Ford
-A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it. - Henry Ford