Glenn beck pulling show off fox news

[layoutshooter]

You are correct sir. The subject here though is specifically Glen Beck. The news organizations you mention are not concerned with the truth either. Ratings trump truth, however, Beck is not a newsman. He is a self proclaimed "commentator". Comments are opinions or just nonsense. He thrives on frightening the bejesus out of people. I know a little old lady who is afraid of her own shadow because of this man's lies. Unacceptable!

Just as Dateline NBC or 60 Minutes. The reason I brought this up is the apparent bias of some who ONLY knock so called "conservative" BS and hardly ever knock the so called "liberal" BS. The "liberal" BS programs have be lying much longer than Beck has and has done far more damage by their sheer volume. There is no credibility unless there is equal bashing of ALL sides of the lie. Lies are lies. All lies do damage to the political system. Little of real value can get done because of all the lies. Lies from the ReBumLiCans, the Dumb-O-Crats and ALL of the so called news outlets. ALL of them are AFRAID to just put out the facts and let us make up our minds. Why? They are ALL out only for their own, power, enrichment, and control of the people.

 

[jpalmer]

The Term useful idiot

Term invented in Soviet Russia to describe people who blindly supported the likes of Lenin and Stalin while they committed atrocity after atrocity.

"Useful idiot" is often used as a pejorative term for those who are seen to unwittingly support a malign cause through their 'naive' attempts to be a force for good.

Most hardcore liberal supporters. Support the banishing of the other sides views. They often call babies a clump of cells. They don't value human life. They don't value hard work. They don't respect free speech. They want a Federalist type of state with no state powers. They want to tell you how much energy you can use. What and where you can eat. And they want to tear down religion. After all, Government is God. People can't worship anything that may be bigger then government...

The hardcore liberals promote the above using terms like. "They want to be free" or "They have no rights"

On the other side
I want individual responsibility, I want people to worship whatever, whenever they want. I want people to be able to Drive SUV's if they want. I wan them to eat at Mcdonalds five days a week if they want. I want people to be able to express their own political views in a public forum. Whether or not they agree with mine.....

I am pretty sure you can't call somebody a useful idiot if they support individualism and individual responsibility...If somebody calls somebody a usuful idiot when they stand for a Republic and want to be truly FREE...Its pretty clear what side that other person is on........

Its pretty black and white.......

 

[xiggi]

So you are fan of conspiracy theories, that's cool if you are into that kind of thing. Me, I prefer someone that actually know's history and deals in facts.

Not a fan of conspiracy theories at all. I listen to what people say and what they have to back it up with and make up my own mind. The man knows more about history than most anyone else on the air.

I used to watch Beck's t.v. show when I could(1 to 3 times a week if possible) but stopped watching him about 2 months ago. Any normal person can only take his schtick for so long.

I do think he would be much better without the high school thespian experience.

Dude......seriously?

This statement proves you spent very little time actually "listening" to his show.

So, let me get this straight. You can get things wrong, if you are on the air many hours of the day? Wow, I had know idea. So you give him a pass because he spends a lot of time broadcasting, and not doing his homework before he speaks.

Name an on air personality from either side who is always correct. I would venture to say he researches things more than almost anyone. He gets himself in trouble when he gets on a rant instead of sticking to that research.

I think he apologized(if you care to call it that) for calling the President a racist, but I'm not sure of any other public apologies that he has submitted. Care to share them with us.[/QUOTE]

I thought you listened to his show until a couple months ago? You should have heard them for yourself.

 

[Letzboogie]

You mean the way you commented that Phil "ranted" about removing a pallet from his truck when he clearly didn't? Or was that opinion? Or nonsense?

You tell me. Now when you do so will that be an opinion or nonsense?

 

[scottm4211]

You tell me. Now when you do so will that be an opinion or nonsense?

Thanks for making my point

 

[Letzboogie]

The Term useful idiot

Term invented in Soviet Russia to describe people who blindly supported the likes of Lenin and Stalin while they committed atrocity after atrocity."Useful idiot" is often used as a pejorative term for those who are seen to unwittingly support a malign cause through their 'naive' attempts to be a force for good.

Oh, Ok, I retract one of my previous comments. Beck fans are not infact "idiots", they are infact, by your definition, "useful idiots"

On the other side I want individual responsibility, I want people to worship whatever, whenever they want. I want people to be able to Drive SUV's if they want. I wan them to eat at Mcdonalds five days a week if they want. I want people to be able to express their own political views in a public forum. Whether or not they agree with mine.....

I am a Hard Core lIberal and yet I want these same things. You sir clearly do not know what a liberal is. I assure you it isn't what your neocon brothers blabber about on the radio. Why don't you open that history book you mentioned earlier and read about what liberalism REALLY is.

Its pretty black and white.......

Politics is 100% opinion. It is 100% Gray.

 

[layoutshooter]

"I am a Hard Core lIberal and yet I want these same things. You sir clearly do not know what a liberal is. I assure you it isn't what your neocon brothers blabber about on the radio. Why don't you open that history book you mentioned earlier and read about what liberalism REALLY is."


Every liberal I have met has been opposed to every thing that I believe in. It is MY opinion that Obama care is unconstitutional. I own guns, I carry guns. I believe that the Federal government has NO legal authority to restrict that right. EVERY liberal I have met wants to remove my right to own guns or restrict that with regulations, registration etc.

I LOVE to hunt and EVERY liberal I have met wants that outlawed. They want to outlaw or restrict trapping. Same with fishing.

Now, I am NOT suggesting that YOU feel that way about these things. All I am saying is that everyone I have met believes that way. I have NOT met you.

I am NOT a neocon, what ever that is. I doubt that anyone in here could EVER classify me if they tried.

I DO want MOST social programs, like welfare, Social Security, etc done away with. Why? I don't believe that they are legal under our Constitution. I want the Federal government OUT of education, that is strictly a local matter. For the most part, I want them out of my life. I no longer believe that they are sticking with our Constitution in any way, shape or form.

I base MY opinions solely on what I read or learned on my own. I trust NO news outlet. I trust NO politician from ANY party.

 

[Letzboogie]

"I am a Hard Core lIberal and yet I want these same things. You sir clearly do not know what a liberal is. I assure you it isn't what your neocon brothers blabber about on the radio. Why don't you open that history book you mentioned earlier and read about what liberalism REALLY is."


Every liberal I have met has been opposed to every thing that I believe in. It is MY opinion that Obama care is unconstitutional. I own guns, I carry guns. I believe that the Federal government has NO legal authority to restrict that right. EVERY liberal I have met wants to remove my right to own guns or restrict that with regulations, registration etc.

I LOVE to hunt and EVERY liberal I have met wants that outlawed. They want to outlaw or restrict trapping. Same with fishing.

Now, I am NOT suggesting that YOU feel that way about these things. All I am saying is that everyone I have met believes that way. I have NOT met you.

I am NOT a neocon, what ever that is. I doubt that anyone in here could EVER classify me if they tried.

I DO want MOST social programs, like welfare, Social Security, etc done away with. Why? I don't believe that they are legal under our Constitution. I want the Federal government OUT of education, that is strictly a local matter. For the most part, I want them out of my life. I no longer believe that they are sticking with our Constitution in any way, shape or form.

I base MY opinions solely on what I read or learned on my own. I trust NO news outlet. I trust NO politician from ANY party.

I am probably not like the Liberals you know. I am a Liberal by the original definition of Liberal. I subscribe to philosphy of "Classic Liberalism"

I am not a fan of Obamacare. I do not agree with the way it was forced down our throats. I do however believe all Americans should have access to healthcare.

I am a hunter and have been most of my life. I cannot imagine, nor would I tolerate a society where hunters were not allowed to hunt. I believe if we are not allowed to have guns, only the criminals will have them.

I believe some social programs are OK so long as they are short term assistance for a finite period of time.

I wasn't calling you a Neocon. I was refering to the fear merchants on the radio.

 

[zero3nine]

Where does anybody get the idea that Americans don't have access to healthcare?

Ohhhh I see.... you want ME to pay for it.

fired at you from my Droideka

 

[layoutshooter]

I am probably not like the Liberals you know. I am a Liberal by the original definition of Liberal. I subscribe to philosphy of "Classic Liberalism"

I am not a fan of Obamacare. I do not agree with the way it was forced down our throats. I do however believe all Americans have access to healthcare.

I am a hunter and have been most of my life. I cannot imagine, nor would I tolerate a society where hunters were not allowed to hunt. I believe if we are not allowed to have guns, only the criminals will have them.

I believe some social programs are OK so long as they are short term assistance for a finite period of time.

I wasn't calling you a Neocon. I was refering to the fear merchants on the radio.

I did not mean to imply that you called me a "neocon".

Social programs, if they are to be any form of government function, should be at the state and local levels ONLY. I have a problem with "charity" at the point of a gun.

I don't believe that the government has ANY business in health care. I would also LOVE to see health insurance done away with. Every American DOES have access to health care. They DO, however, have to pay for it. That would require them to work.

Yes, I know about the working poor. I have been there. Darn near there now. I STILL find a way to make sure that my wife and I have health care. It is called a "priority". I get tired of people screaming at me that they cannot afford health care but some how have the money to cover their bodies with tattoo's, have the money to drink, smoke, do dope, have cable TV, etc.

There HAS to be a better way to help people WITHOUT the use of force as Obama and Co. is doing.

I also see NO reason for my niece, her whatever it is she is living with, to have 3 FREE Obama phones. They can't even feed their own family. Neither work or even try to find work. Yet I am FORCED to provide for them.

ANY who. I do enjoy being able to rattle on about this stuff. It is fun until people start the personal stuff. It is VERY good mind exercise!!

 

[jpalmer]

Classical liberalism isn't Progressivism. Our Country was founded on Classical Liberalism. The Fabian socialists hijacked the term Liberal along time ago. Now Liberalism is aligned more with Socialism. Now they want to use the term Progressive because people don't like the term Liberal. Basically when people find out their true colors. They need to change molds to continue the lie.....

 

[Letzboogie]

Classical liberalism isn't Progressivism. Our Country was founded on Classical Liberalism. The Fabian socialists hijacked the term Liberal along time ago. Now Liberalism is aligned more with Socialism. Now they want to use the term Progressive because people don't like the term Liberal. Basically when people find out their true colors. They need to change molds to continue the lie.....

Who said anything about Progressivism? If the Socialists want to hijack a term, that's their business. It doesn't change what Liberalism really is. Socialism is not Liberalism. Never was never will be. Simply by making the statements in this post you are proactively furthering the lie. Glenn would be proud of you.

 

[Letzboogie]

Where does anybody get the idea that Americans don't have access to healthcare?

Ohhhh I see.... you want ME to pay for it.

fired at you from my Droideka

No, I don't want you to do anything. That's the point. I believe in individual rights. Your life, your business.

 

[jpalmer]

Who said anything about Progressivism? If the Socialists want to hijack a term, that's their business. It doesn't change what Liberalism really is. Socialism is not Liberalism. Never was never will be. Simply by making the statements in this post you are proactively furthering the lie. Glenn would be proud of you.

lol That is what I was saying. Classical Liberalism isn't what Liberalism is today.

I don't need Glenn Beck to tell me Today's liberalism is aligned with Socialism. Its in the open.........I don't know how much more clear it could get.....

You're not considered a Liberal in todays view of a liberal. You are a classical Liberal who aligns more with the Founders of this Country.........

 

[Brisco]

You sir clearly........

This way of addressing others has been used many many times by another strong Liberal Supporter here. (I know.....said member has used it against me when whining that I owe them an apology for something I said)

Was this a slip of the fingers when replying to a post???

I bet if Admin started comparing IP addys they'll find a certain member clearly breaking TOU rules. (no more than 1 username at a time)

 

[Letzboogie]

This way of addressing others has been used many many times by another strong Liberal Supporter here. (I know.....said member has used it against me when whining that I owe them an apology for something I said)

Was this a slip of the fingers when replying to a post???

I bet if Admin started comparing IP addys they'll find a certain member clearly breaking TOU rules. (no more than 1 username at a time)

You sir are incorrect. Why don't you go back to polishing your gaudy belt buckle and mind your own business.

 

[greg334]

Wow! what a funny thread, I wondered if I was sitting at the lunch counter of some five and dime listening to old farts talk about the red scare or how Johnson is ruining the country with his programs.

I'm a classic liberal, it is close to what the founding fathers thought the country should be but it is not.

Some of the highlights of this thread seem to be the following;

The left stands for elitists who want all the power while everybody else gets the scraps.........

Well that's sort of true, it is the same on both sides. No one side has the exclusive place for elites and no one side doesn't want everyone to get the scrapes. The left or dems or liberals are really about the same as the right or republicans or conservatives - just a different animal on their bumper stickers.

Useful Idiot is another one, it wasn't invented by the Soviets but used by the Fascists in the 30's. I think it was attributed to the Il Worker' lotta di s - Roma or some other Fascist rag in the mid-30's (not really L'Umanita as described in wikipedia). BUT it was used in the 40's to describe Soviet and Nazi sympathizers during the war.

 

[bobwg]

Beck clearly LIES and in this video readily admits that he is NOT A NEWS MAN and DOES NOT check facts. Funny you use the term "useful idiots". Beck followers are idiots. They're just not useful.
YouTube - Glenn Beck Caught Lying

First most people that watch his show know he is not a news man or reporter and I have seen him admit and give an apology when he has gotten something wrong. As for the Amtrak deal they said the table was reserved sure maybe Whoopi and Walters are not the ones that asked for the table to be reserved maybe the workers on the train knew they were coming and wanted to reserve the table for them, seems the only thing he did was exaggerate his story trying to be funny and imitate Walters voice I dont agree with Beck on everything again show me where he lies on his facts???? you cannot show proof of any lies of his facts so you insult him and anyone that might agree with him get a life

 

[Letzboogie]

First most people that watch his show know he is not a news man or reporter and I have seen him admit and give an apology when he has gotten something wrong. As for the Amtrak deal they said the table was reserved sure maybe Whoopi and Walters are not the ones that asked for the table to be reserved maybe the workers on the train knew they were coming and wanted to reserve the table for them, seems the only thing he did was exaggerate his story trying to be funny and imitate Walters voice I dont agree with Beck on everything again show me where he lies on his facts???? you cannot show proof of any lies of his facts so you insult him and anyone that might agree with him get a life

With all due respect sir, you proudly support the very worthy organizations listed at the bottom of your posts. If I am reading your profile correctly, you served our country in the Navy. You are clearly an honorable man. I can't imagine why you would defend this hate monger who routinely accuses those he fears or opposes as being Nazis. It doesn't reconcile.

 

[bobwg]

With all due respect sir, you proudly support the very worthy organizations listed at the bottom of your posts. If I am reading your profile correctly, you served our country in the Navy. You are clearly an honorable man. I can't imagine why you would defend this hate monger who routinely accuses those he fears or opposes as being Nazis. It doesn't reconcile.

Hate speach from Beck thats funny seems to be more hate speech , personal attacks, etc from the left and your favorite video has the commentator calling Beck a mother fxxker