Gay discrimination

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Who decides whether or not there are too many people on the earth? What should be done with the "surplus"? Who decides what "must" be done to stop people from reproducing? Kinda scary.
 

LDB

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Yes they do...big parades...Dont watch... its apparently not your thing...so they should hide because it offends you...got it..

That's the problem. You don't get it. I never said anyone should hide. I said that when possible they go over the top to shock people and they make sure they choose venues that give the most opportunity to do so.

I'm not homophobic, and have known a number of gay people through the years. Generally they were as friendly as anyone, intelligent, and often more tolerable to be around than other non-gay people. My opinion is they should be treated equally to others just as I should be treated equally by them. Marriage is the one area of contention. Marriage is between a couple, a man and a woman. Pairs, two men or two women, should be joined if they choose and a civil union that grants survivorship, medical decision making, insurance, etc. etc. would cover everything marriage covers without the major slap in the face to many who want to maintain marriage as a covenant between a couple.

I don't expect you to agree and possibly not to even see or comprehend. You are over the top emotionally on the issue and have lenses far from clear to view the subject. That's your prerogative. This is the other side of the picture.
 

asjssl

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That's the problem. You don't get it. I never said anyone should hide. I said that when possible they go over the top to shock people and they make sure they choose venues that give the most opportunity to do so.

I'm not homophobic, and have known a number of gay people through the years. Generally they were as friendly as anyone, intelligent, and often more tolerable to be around than other non-gay people. My opinion is they should be treated equally to others just as I should be treated equally by them. Marriage is the one area of contention. Marriage is between a couple, a man and a woman. Pairs, two men or two women, should be joined if they choose and a civil union that grants survivorship, medical decision making, insurance, etc. etc. would cover everything marriage covers without the major slap in the face to many who want to maintain marriage as a covenant between a couple.

I don't expect you to agree and possibly not to even see or comprehend. You are over the top emotionally on the issue and have lenses far from clear to view the subject. That's your prerogative. This is the other side of the picture.

All sorts of groups hold big lavish parades ...why does there parade bother you more than others..its probably because they have had to hide who they were for years...so now there out and proud...pretty obvious... again if there so in your face..Dont watch...there not hurting anybody....with a divorce rate among heterosexual couples at nearly 50%......so the argument of marriage being sacred seems odd......again real obvious... they just want to be equal..and they seem to be working pretty good at it..yes.. as stated many times before I am very passionate on the subject...

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LDB

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I don't watch. The one time I had nothing to do with the supervisor at work was when he was going on about his trip to San Francisco to be in the mr. leather contest. Yes, there are some extravagant parades, Macy's being one of the biggest and oldest. The difference is that at least until very recently nobody had to explain to elementary students what they were seeing in the parade.

Nobody said marriage is anywhere near sacred, not with so many people working to sabotage it. And you would have to dial it back a few notches to be 'very passionate' about it. If that ever happened you might be able to see all the points being made and discuss them.
 

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I don't watch. The one time I had nothing to do with the supervisor at work was when he was going on about his trip to San Francisco to be in the mr. leather contest. Yes, there are some extravagant parades, Macy's being one of the biggest and oldest. The difference is that at least until very recently nobody had to explain to elementary students what they were seeing in the parade.

Nobody said marriage is anywhere near sacred, not with so many people working to sabotage it. And you would have to dial it back a few notches to be 'very passionate' about it. If that ever happened you might be able to see all the points being made and discuss them.

So having to be honest (and do your job) explain how the world is to a child.is a problem for you....so again what you are saying is for the gays to hide who they are...I really think women/ men being who they are is not the problem...seems to be the parents ...
See the words you use like sabotage (that's what you think)... that's not what there intentions are...FYI ..a Michigan judge ..today ruled the ban against gay marriage is unconstitutional.... that's my whole point..it is unconstitutional! I'm dialed back just fine...

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LDB

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It's not a matter of avoiding responsibility. It's a matter of right time and right place. And that's the parent's decision to make, not those who want to make the entire world come to their viewpoint. And it's a given that the majority of the people working to sabotage marriage are not gay since only a few people are gay.
 

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What does "WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE WALKING THE FACE OF THE EARTH...so...since they CAN NOT reproduce" have to do with same-sex marriage?

I'm also wondering, still, What does gays kissing & holding hands in public have to do with same-sex marriage?

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I thought so.
 

asjssl

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I thought so.

Thought what...you win another argument..good for you...your passion is a contest ...mine is a young nephew I love dearly...congrads ...YOU WIN

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asjssl

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Actually..you know who wins...MY NEPHEW looks like he will be able to MARRY who ever he likes in the state of Michigan ...and a big middle finger to those religious wacko parents of his .....Congratulations buddy!!!!:D:D:D
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Thought what...you win another argument..good for you...your passion is a contest ...mine is a young nephew I love dearly...congrads ...YOU WIN
It's not an argument, it's two simple questions which you should be able to answer. You gave two justifications for same-sex marriage, and all I asked was what relationship the justifications have with same-sex marriage. Since you are unable to give an answer to either, then both can be dismissed as wholly irrelevant.
 

asjssl

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It's not an argument, it's two simple questions which you should be able to answer. You gave two justifications for same-sex marriage, and all I asked was what relationship the justifications have with same-sex marriage. Since you are unable to give an answer to either, then both can be dismissed as wholly irrelevant.

Nope..nope..say what you like...here's my justification... its unconstitutional.

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fifaref2

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As long as they're happy who cares. The kKK use to hold their gatherings in the most public places also. If you didn't like the kKK then you just didn't attend. This nephews parents lose in the end because they prob remove themselves from his life. Times are changing bible thumpers.
 

zorry

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Actually..you know who wins...MY NEPHEW looks like he will be able to MARRY who ever he likes in the state of Michigan ...and a big middle finger to those religious wacko parents of his .....Congratulations buddy!!!!:D:D:D
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You are there for family ?
You aren't there for your brother or sister. Trying to tell them how to raise their son.
Do you want them telling you how to raise your kids ?
 

asjssl

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You are there for family ?
You aren't there for your brother or sister. Trying to tell them how to raise their son.
Do you want them telling you how to raise your kids ?

There for them..for what...So turning your back 100%.. disowning on your OWN child because he is gay...yes I will tell them...yes I will have nothing to do with my own sibling..so stand by my nutty sister and why this young man has no parents...if I do anything so selfish I would hope someone would say something...
FYI they are not raising anything ...they kicked him out...
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paullud

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As long as they're happy who cares. The kKK use to hold their gatherings in the most public places also. If you didn't like the kKK then you just didn't attend. This nephews parents lose in the end because they prob remove themselves from his life. Times are changing bible thumpers.

So now we are going to compare the KKK to people that don't support gay marriage?

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asjssl

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So now we are going to compare the KKK to people that don't support gay marriage?

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No what he was comparing was a KKK demonstration being out in the publics face ...as others a few posts ago were complaining about having to explain a gay parade to there children... as with the KKK..if you didn't like or agree you didn't stick around to watch ...so if you Dont like or agree with a gay parade ...Dont watch..pretty simple....that's his point..

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